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Authors' expressed wishes in their readmes always overrule community etiquette. This in itself is community etiquette, if I'm not mistaken.

 

True, but expressly forbidding people from making compatibility patches is kinda a dick move

 

That would probably inspire me to just not use their mod

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I can only think of such a move in case the author is about to release a compatibility patch of his own pretty soon and any 3rd party attempt to it would be redundant... though I for one would rather opt to "ask" downloaders not to create one themselves in this case and tell them that I'm going to already. "Forbidding" quite isn't my thing somehow.
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Authors' expressed wishes in their readmes always overrule community etiquette. This in itself is community etiquette, if I'm not mistaken.

 

True, but expressly forbidding people from making compatibility patches is kinda a dick move

 

That would probably inspire me to just not use their mod

 

Dick move or not it is simply what they wish and nexus rules state that we all must abide by those wishes.

 

Personally I agree, I would drop the mod and not use it. especially if the mod is abandonware.

 

Oh not just readme's, but description as well. check all 3 locations for use permission, Often the official one is left default and use permission is in the description. and sometimes in the readme. best to be sure and if all 3 conflict make a note in the discussion and report for false info based on conflicting use permits with details..

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Only time I ask for people not to make patches are:

 

A. The mod is a current WIP, I would then prefer people to ask me so I may either say yes or perhaps explain why holding off on the patch would be a good idea. Once a mod is no longer a major WIP patches are just fine with me.

 

B. The mod is a child based mod, and then I do not trust any of you to do the right thing and not turn it into porn or something dirty. Because that is what people do with mods that have a child element, they steal it and make it either porn or a child killer mod.

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There is a circumstance where the mod is very popular, the author is very active, and the author wishes to do the patches himself (I'm thinking of a real life example here). In that case, you can make your own patch and use it, but we would prefer it's not uploaded without the author's blessing.

 

In the case where it happened, the patcher agreed to allow the original author to upload on his own patch page.

 

In my opinion, the original author's feelings should bear considerable weight in a case like this, even though the patcher's intent and action was not malicious.

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There is a circumstance where the mod is very popular, the author is very active, and the author wishes to do the patches himself (I'm thinking of a real life example here). In that case, you can make your own patch and use it, but we would prefer it's not uploaded without the author's blessing.

 

In the case where it happened, the patcher agreed to allow the original author to upload on his own patch page.

 

In my opinion, the original author's feelings should bear considerable weight in a case like this, even though the patcher's intent and action was not malicious.

 

Agreed. Keeps everyone happy if you stick with basic and mutual respect from the beginning.

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You cross the line into improvements, IMO, when you're patch to satisfy the technical issues begins doing things like rewriting dialogue or moving content to entirely new locations. In those cases, yes, you'd best see if the authors are OK with that.

Someone made a patch for one of my mods, once, and that's exactly what they did...and never told me (I found it during a search for something else). Naturally I was annoyed. I PM'ed the guy and he basically told me to, 'get lost.' (worse words than that) :blink:

I reported the mod, but as it was by a (then) supposedly popular modder it was ignored. (It's not the first time it's happened to me, either. Maybe I should change my name). To date he's never removed it.

It wasn't just for mine, but a bunch of other people's. He made a bunch of patches for mods that "conflict" with a certain large popular set of mods. But, my mod was a vanilla object (i.e there first), so really it was the other mod conflicting with it and I'll be buggered if I'm moving it to accomodate another newer mod. The only way that both would work together is if mine is moved to another location entirely, and I'm not going to do that, and would hope that others would take notice of my permissions and not do it, either.

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