ChockDoctor Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 So I got back into modding Skyrim and have made sure all my files are clean with SSEEDIT and use Mod Organizer 2 to do my sorting and see if there are any errors. I can run the game just fine starting from a new save for about 1-2 hours and then everything just kinda goes downhill. After I get my first CTD after a couple hours of playing, the game will just continually CTD every few minutes if I try to continue. I've pretty much tried every method for troubleshooting that I can think of (binary troubleshooting, disabling windows touch keyboard service and adjusted load orders) I also have Papyrus logs enabled to look for what is causing my crashes and that isn't very helpful at all because I am getting pretty much 0 errors. Here is a full list of my mod order 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 BSAssets.esm 7 7 BSHeartland.esm 8 8 BS_DLC_patch.esp 9 9 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 10 a Cutting Room Floor.esp 11 b SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 12 c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 13 d RaceMenu.esp 14 e RaceMenuPlugin.esp 15 f EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 16 10 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 17 11 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 18 12 JKs Skyrim.esp 19 13 NPCs Protected and Uncapped.esp 20 14 Eli_Breezehome.esp 21 15 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 22 16 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 23 17 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 24 18 Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 25 19 Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp 26 1a Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 27 1b ELFX - Weathers.esp 28 1c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 29 1d Vivid WeathersSE.esp 30 1e icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp 31 1f CWIELnFXSEPatch.esp 32 20 SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp 33 21 OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp 34 22 Ars Metallica.esp 35 23 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp 36 24 Run For Your Lives.esp 37 25 Cloaks.esp 38 26 Immersive Wenches.esp 39 27 Immersive Patrols II.esp 40 28 DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp 41 29 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 42 2a TERAArmorsSSE.esp 43 2b TeraArmorSSE Level List LOOT.esp 44 2c Joy of Perspective.esp 45 2d Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp 46 2e Visible Favorited Gear.esp 47 2f LADX_SSE.esp 48 30 CWIOOSEPatchAIO.esp 49 31 NPCs Protected Redux - CRF.esp 50 32 NPCs Protected Redux - COP.esp 51 33 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 52 34 Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp 53 35 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 54 36 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 55 37 QuickStart3_NoHelmet.esp 56 38 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 57 39 Beards.esp 58 3a Better Skill and Quest Books Names SE.esp 59 3b Immersive Weapons.esp 60 3c Bijin Warmaidens.esp 61 3d Bound Armory Extravaganza.esp 62 3e SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp 63 3f Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 64 40 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 65 41 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 66 42 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp 67 43 VioLens SE.esp 68 44 Dodge Mod.esp 69 45 Dwemer metal scrap reduced weight.esp 70 46 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 71 47 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 72 48 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp 73 49 dD-No Screen Blood.esp 74 4a dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp 75 4b ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp 76 4c Enhanced Magic VSFX.esp 77 4d FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp 78 4e Full Magic Scaling.esp 79 4f CWICRFSEPatch.esp 80 50 ImmersiveUpgradeLeveledItems.esp 81 51 Insignificant Object Remover.esp 82 52 JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp 83 53 KS Hairdo's.esp 84 54 LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp 85 55 LeftHandRings.esp 86 56 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp 87 57 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp 88 58 Realistic Haircolors.esp 89 59 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x5.esp 90 5a SkyUI_SE.esp 91 5b Spells Emit Light.esp 92 5c TeraArmorsSSE LOOT USSEP Patch.esp 93 5d Book of UUNP - Textures.esp 94 5e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 95 5f Unique Uniques.esp 96 60 UnreadBooksGlow.esp 97 61 Upgrade Soul Gems.esp 98 62 WetandCold.esp 99 63 Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp 100 64 XPMSE.esp 101 65 FNIS.esp 102 66 FNISSexyMove.esp 103 67 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp RDO - USSEP Patch.esp 104 68 Backshields.esp 105 69 beltfastenedquivers.esp 106 6a ELFXEnhancer.esp 107 6b Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp 108 6c RealisticWaterTwo.esp 109 6d JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp 110 6e RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp These are also my pc specs: Nvidia GTX 1070 Intel i7-8700k 64 gb ddr4 @ 3200mhz 500gb SSD for os 2 TB HDD for game storage Windows 10 Pro and running the latest drivers for everything Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeddBate Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Hmm. That sounds like a memory leak. Your rig is just fine, assuming you don't have a failing HD. Do you have any other issues with other software that is similar? Are you having thermal issues with your cpu? Have you tried the basics like verifying your game files through Steam? Here's an advanced guide for troubleshooting your game. Don't try to take it in all at once. Just read it a bit at a time and apply what seems appropriate to your issue(s). If any of this guide helps you, give Darstyler a kudo. It's his guide.Here is a list of things you may do to stabilize your game :/// Useful informations : Dangerous mods list.CTDs troubleshooting page on Reddit very usefull informations concerning CTDs...Verify gamecache./// Load order / mods conflicts : Use L.O.O.T once and click on the "sort plugins buttons".Create a wryebash patch including leveled lists.Create a merged patch with Tesedit excluding leveled lists/// Settings / memory :Have you installed the skse patch ? >> memory blocks log.Backup your ini files and delete the files. Skyrim.ini / SkyrimCustom.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini found in C:\Users\Utilisateur\Documents\My Games\Skyrim then use your vanilla launcher to autodetect and use best settings for your computer./// Cleaning and correcting potential bugs :Clean your master files to eliminate potential problems.: Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page.Start Tes5edit, simply untick everything, (right-click/select none) and add only a tick to the esm/esp you want to check + update.esm, Tesedit knows what to do and will load all the dependencies automatically.- Begin with loading only Skyrim + update, ITM / UDR + save ctrl +s and close.- Then load Skyrim + update + Dawnguard, ITM / UDR + ctrl +s and close.- Then load Skyrim + update + Hearthfire, ITM / UDR + ctrl +s and close.- Then load Skyrim + update + Dragonborn, ITM / UDR + ctrl +s and close.The method above can be used to clean mods. If I'm correct LOOT should tell you which plugin you should clean. You may load all your mods with Tes5edit and use the (right-click in the left pane) apply filter to show conflict losers. Wait till Tes5edit has finished. Caution : don't try to modify anything while using this filter, it's not intended for.In the left pane, Expand the subsections and examine conflicts. Once an entry is expanded to the bottom and selected, the right pane shows which mods modify the entry. The last one on the right is the last loaded in your load order and the conflict winner.Expand the following subsections, depending on where the problems occur. Cells for CTDs inside buildings, grottos, etc... and worldspace for exterior. The goal is to target mods that edit the same places and conflict. Open the bloc note and write those mods.Once done, close Tes5edit and open each mod with Tesedit, one by one and use the UDR cleaning procedure (Gopher's videos cleaning your masterfiles on the Nexus Tesedit page) to ensure all the deleted references will be transformed in disabled references = no CTDs from this point.If you suspect a mod in particular, using the conflict looser / winner method above, you can decide to change its load order or uninstall it./// Save game :Don't uninstall mods at mid-game, there are no clean save in Skyrim but using save script cleaner can help removing orphan scripts./// Meshes healer :Read here, this is potentially a cause of CTD that you can resolve by following the mod procedure on this page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeddBate Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) Just thought of something else. Does your game give warning of the impending ctd? For example, do textures start disappearing? If so, quickly hit F5 (quicksave) and then F9 (quickload.) Back when I had severe VRAM issues with Oldrim, this trick often "reset" my game (for lack of a better description) and I could play again for another couple of hours. I know that's not a fix, but it might save you some aggravation if it works for you. Edited for spelling. Edited June 19, 2018 by LeddBate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChockDoctor Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 I don't have anything wrong with my system hardware such as thermals or bad hdd and I don't have problems running any other games. I haven't made a batch patch or a merged patch yet though so I'll go ahead and do that. I don't really know what the importance of the memory block is for me since I don't have any kind of memory problem for my PC considering I have 64gb of ram and 8gb of Vram. I have also already cleaned all my .esm files with SSEDIT and actually gone a bit further and removed and properties inside of all the mods I have that are missing necessary data to function, which is why I never get errors of any kind through Papyrus logs. I don't get any kind of texture pop in or anything before a crash the game just kind of dies suddenly. I remember with Oldrim I could definitely tell when something was about to cause the game to crash as well because it would give distinct signs depending on what was going to make the game crash, but with this its just completely random so I can't pin the root cause down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregmaugard Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) Edited January 17, 2020 by gregmaugard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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