Neotis Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Does it matter in which order I cleaned the files with SSEEdit?I have cleaned them in this order:1) Update.esm2)Dawnguard.esm3)Dragonborn.esm4)Hearthfire.esm5)Dawnguard.esm (again)6)Other (mods) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jannifer Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 No, it doesn't matter in which order you clean the files. Each file is handled separately. That said, I'm one of those people who never cleans the master files. I think the community is pretty much split 50/50 on cleaning or not cleaning. I have never had an issue which I could track back to a master file, so I've never bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfandrews Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 As Jennifer says it is really, like so many things when it comes to games and modding them, an individual choice. I prefer to clean my esm files under the theory that it can't hurt and may help. However your no. 6 on the list was worrisome. It is generally recommended that you do not clean mod files of ITM's unless the mod author specifically says it is okay on the mod page. LOOT cannot tell if those ITMs are necessary for the mod to function properly or not; however the general consensus is that it is okay to clean UDRs in mod files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotis Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomomi1922 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Keep in mind that TES5Edit is a tool developed by someone outside Bethesda. Same as LOOT and other tools we use. In fact, it is safe to say only CK is from Bethesda. It is not to say the creators of these mods are bad. But they do not know all the in and out of the game, and frankly they aren't paid a salary to sit 10 hours a day working for Bethesda. So it is unwise to clean Skyrim files at all.I think it is safer to patch them. This is why we have USSEP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project579 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Keep in mind that TES5Edit is a tool developed by someone outside Bethesda. Same as LOOT and other tools we use. In fact, it is safe to say only CK is from Bethesda. It is not to say the creators of these mods are bad. But they do not know all the in and out of the game, and frankly they aren't paid a salary to sit 10 hours a day working for Bethesda. So it is unwise to clean Skyrim files at all. I think it is safer to patch them. This is why we have USSEP. I don't think you understand what Cleaning Master Files means, What SSEEdit does is undelete Objects and disable them (it places them under the world so they are there but not loaded) that the developers removed without knowing that they would make games crash due to missing references (NULL POINTERS in programming) needed in mods , The delete Identical to master records removes useless records that only increase the load in the game and are simply copies of the ones coming from the master. Also there are modders in the community that know parts of the engine better then Bethesda (Look at OpenMW) because they had access to the original Gamebryo engine (the Creation Engine is an upgraded version of it) and some have been looking into the code for over six years without source and where able to find and fix bug that Bethesda han no knowledge of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfandrews Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Keep in mind that TES5Edit is a tool developed by someone outside Bethesda. Same as LOOT and other tools we use. In fact, it is safe to say only CK is from Bethesda. It is not to say the creators of these mods are bad. But they do not know all the in and out of the game, and frankly they aren't paid a salary to sit 10 hours a day working for Bethesda. So it is unwise to clean Skyrim files at all. I think it is safer to patch them. This is why we have USSEP. What you seem to forget is that the developers of these games, like Bethesda, did not takes mods into consideration when they built the game. Certainly if all you are going to do is play the vanilla game there is no need to clean the recommended esm's, however if you are going to mod the game, and the heavier you mod the game the more this holds true, you would be wise to clean those files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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