Bluestorm7776 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) What the topic says, I'm at the part of the Dark Brotherhood quest after you kill Rufio (I think that's his name) and you have to sleep in a safe place to make Lucian come to you and initiate you into the Dark Brotherhood.In any inn I sleep in, no matter what, after I sleep, wake up, talk to Lucian, accept the quest and leave the inn I get a CTD. After some investigation, I believe the crash is due to having the quest while being in the overworld.What I mean is, that being in the overworld after I've accepted the quest (leaving an inn after accepting the quest) will cause a CTD no matter what. I've tested using console commands to give me the quest, I typed "setstage Dark10Knife 30" to activate the quest without sleeping in an inn and talking to Lucian. Using this command while in the overworld immediately crashes my game, using the command inside any building will no crash my game, however, my game will crash after entering the overworld after leaving the building after I've used the console command. This has not happened due to any of my other quests.Here's my load order: 0 0 Oblivion.esm 1 1 bookplacing.esm 2 2 HorseCombatMaster.esm 3 3 Better Cities Resources.esm 4 4 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp 5 5 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 6 6 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 7 7 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp 8 8 Knights.esp 9 9 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp 10 a Better Dungeons.esp 11 b Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp 12 c Book Jackets Oblivion.esp 13 d AliveWaters.esp 14 e Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp Grass Overhaul.esp 15 f Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp 16 10 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp LessFogUnderwater.esp 17 11 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 18 12 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 19 13 Custom Autosave.esp 20 14 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp 21 15 CapesandCloaks.esp 22 16 Immersive Weapons.esp 23 17 Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp Real Lava 1.3.esp Book Placement v2.esp Grass Overhaul_xUL_Imperial_Isle_patch.esp 24 18 SleepRestAnyTime.esp 25 19 MidasSpells.esp 26 1a RenGuardOverhaul.esp 27 1b Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp 28 1c Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp 29 1d Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp 30 1e Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp 31 1f Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tae_CO_RD.esp 32 20 Natural_Weather_HDR_2.1.3_coloroverride.esp.esp 33 21 ImprovedSigns.esp 34 22 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp 35 23 BetterSaves.esp 36 24 Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp 37 25 Denock Arrows.esp 38 26 OblivionReloaded.esp 39 27 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp 40 28 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 41 29 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 42 2a Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 43 2b Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp 44 2c Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp 45 2d Bashed Patch, 0.esp 46 2e Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp 47 2f Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp 48 30 Better Cities Full.esp 49 31 Better Imperial City.esp 50 32 Better Cities .esp 51 33 Better Cities Anvil Open - Knights of the Nine.esp 52 34 Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.espAll of my mods have been installed with Nexus Mod Manager, I use moreheap, gamecompanion, all of my mods have been cleaned and sorted with LOOT (the only things manually sorted have been the better cities .esps), I've used Wrye Bash, I have the New Vegas Anti Crash and An ENB with ENBoost.I've tried many things and none of them work, any help is appreciated. Edited July 19, 2018 by Bluestorm7776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivionaddicted Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 NMM wasn't made for Oblivion. You should better reinstall your mods manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
criegler Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Did you manage to solve this? Having literally the exact same issue now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaneinthebrain8 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I had the exact same issue, managed to solve it by disabling Better Cities mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellape Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Better Cities made my game to crash with a new char, after leaving IC for the first time. It does looks so damn good, but try to run the game without it and see if the quest works as I had no problems with the DB questline for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcth Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I'm three years late here, but I had this same issue (I installed with Vortex), and was able to fix it so I wanted to leave a note in case anyone else wanders in. Apologies for the thread necromancy. Here's what I did to avoid the crash (these may be more steps than necessary). Reinstall Better Cities without the Open Better Cities option (which seemed to be causing the issue). I tried both with and without the merged options, didn't seem to make a difference, so you should be able to do what you want there. My game loaded fine at this point, but Open Better Cities is cooler, so: Go to the Sanctuary and talk with Ocheeva to advance the quest (I also went through all her initial dialog options) Leave the Sancturary and Cheydinhal. I fast traveled to Pell's Gate to make sure I was well away from any city that Better Cities would change. Save and exit Reinstall Better Cities again, turning on Open Better Cities this time Load the game, confirm no crash, save and exit Updated the Better Cities ini file to Open the cities and add wall archers Loaded my save, and Open Better Cities seems to be working with no crashesGiven the above I'd imagine that simply advancing the quest to where you've talked with Ocheeva would work, but haven't actually tried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivionaddicted Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 MessageLogger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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