The TSA

[Aurielius]

That's all well and good, but I'd rather not subject myself to interrogation just to travel.

 

There. Is. No. Threat. No threat, no need for additional security. Bomb sniffers and metal detectors are all that's needed. And honestly? If it were upto me, I'd allow passengers to carry their sidearms, loaded, in a holster, onto the plane. Crazy thought eh, but we did it before and flying was a hell of a lot safer then.

In as much as I am a staunch 2nd Amendment advocate I would never want a universally armed passenger mix, considering how many Nimrods are armed and stupid...just how many are familiar with explosive decompression do you think?

[Syco21]

Judging by your comment, too few. http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/whistling.gif

 

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[marharth]

Guess I was just tying to play devils advocate.

[Moveing]

In as much as I am a staunch 2nd Amendment advocate I would never want a universally armed passenger mix, considering how many Nimrods are armed and stupid...just how many are familiar with explosive decompression do you think?

Can't remember the exact numbers, but i guess from 1928 untill somewhere in the 80's every Pilot which flought an airplaine during a internal flight, they had to carry guns in the cockpit.

 

And i have no problem with passangers carrieng guns during a flight. I you don't trust the other passangers, why trust armed people in the subway or the bus? If you don't trust them because you say they are to dumb to carrie that responsibility, you abolish the 2nd Amendment anyway.

[Lisnpuppy]

The TSA always manages to get my hairspray when I forget the size I am allowed to have in my carry-on...yet they never ask about my insulin injection which I assume could be made into something bad. I mean they should at least acknowledge it...I don't mind if they do.

 

On the un-related note...The British also invaded the U.S. or am I the only one that remembers the War of 1812 and Dolly Madison saving President Washington's painting? :P

[Moveing]

On the un-related note...The British also invaded the U.S. or am I the only one that remembers the War of 1812 and Dolly Madison saving President Washington's painting?

This was mentiond on the first page by Marxist Bastard.

 

Okay the british tried to invad the US once again and they got slaughterd. But today america deals with a different kind of invasion, an invasion of the government by total criminals.

 

And as more the american people suffer themself under the TSA, the decrease of tourism and foreigner selling their property, i bet you one day someone shoot some of them. And whatever you think, this would be the right and legal thing to do.

What do you think is the 2nd Amendment for? Shooting Deer? Shooting Criminals! These B's do what even an sworn in officer can't do without a warrent. They violate the 4th Amendment every day thousand times. They are criminal scum and that americans don't go on total berserker rage is an pathetic display for what their culture has become.

[Syco21]

The TSA always manages to get my hairspray when I forget the size I am allowed to have in my carry-on...yet they never ask about my insulin injection which I assume could be made into something bad. I mean they should at least acknowledge it...I don't mind if they do.

Might have something to do with it being medically necessary. The TSA needs to screw off. There is no terrorist threat.

 

On the un-related note...The British also invaded the U.S. or am I the only one that remembers the War of 1812 and Dolly Madison saving President Washington's painting? :P

 

@Marharth: I suggest not quitting your day job.:P

[bben46]

I have been flying since the late 1950s and The ONLY time I have seen a passenger carry a firearm on an airliner is on military charter flights. :tongue: I don't think we were in any danger of being hijacked on those - even though they did take our ammunition away from us. We did have our bayonets, pocket knives and K-Bar though.

 

I am in favor of allowing pilots and other aircrew to carry or have access to weapons. But not the general passengers.

 

Note that the 'weapons' the 9-11 hijackers used were box case cutters, a razor blade in a small handle. Those could easily be made of a sharpened piece of plastic which would pass through x-ray, metal detectors and even the 'rapescan' (Rapiscan Secure 1000 - Actual name of the full body scanners used at airports.) So, even the wacky security theater practiced bt TSA would likely not have caught them anyway.

 

As for 'explosive decompression' Only in the movies. I worked on airplanes - a bullet hole, will NOT cause any such thing. And even a blown out window will only suck people out in the movies. Broken windows have happened, and the passenger sitting beside the window was not sucked out. The only record I have found of anyone being sucked out of a commercial airliner in flight was a stewardess on an Aloha Airlines plane that had a 20 x 18 foot hole ripped in its roof and sides (Aloha Flight 243, April 28 1988) Two other stewardesses and at least one passenger who were not buckled in were not sucked out. If a 20 x18 foot hole didn't cause a crash I doubt that anything that a terrorist could carry on is going to bring the plane down by just blowing a hole in the cabin wall - although it could kill some passengers.

 

Mythbusters did a segment on this a couple of years ago - their conclusion - Busted - its a Hollywood myth.

 

I believe that the danger of a passenger plane being attacked successfully (like like on 9-11 by on board terrorists is somewhere between slim and none. The probability of a bomb big enough to actually bring down a passenger airliner is not much higher. Neither the shoe bomber or underwear bomber explosions would have damaged the aircraft enough to make it crash. However they would probably have killed several passengers nearby.

[marharth]

I would like to point out that you don't even need a weapon to hijack a plane.

 

If you can enough people on the same flight it wouldn't be that hard to control everyone.

[HeyYou]

In as much as I am a staunch 2nd Amendment advocate I would never want a universally armed passenger mix, considering how many Nimrods are armed and stupid...just how many are familiar with explosive decompression do you think?

Can't remember the exact numbers, but i guess from 1928 untill somewhere in the 80's every Pilot which flought an airplaine during a internal flight, they had to carry guns in the cockpit.

 

And i have no problem with passangers carrieng guns during a flight. I you don't trust the other passangers, why trust armed people in the subway or the bus? If you don't trust them because you say they are to dumb to carrie that responsibility, you abolish the 2nd Amendment anyway.

 

I have a serious issue with letting any tom, dick, or jane carry a gun on a plane that travels routinely at 30,000+ feet. Even a .22 would poke a hole in the pressurized metal tube that the passengers are in... it's only thin aluminum. The result of which would be disastrous. Hypoxia from oxygen deprivation being one of the milder issues. (and even that can kill you..... even if you AREN'T the pilot.) Explosive decompression would really suck.... (blow?) Not how I would like to die thankyouverymuch.