Do you like OBSE?

[Tallhat]

Of course I like it! Without it half of the really interesting mods for this game wouldnt exist. And if I have to endure some random crashes (okay a lot of random crashes) to play these mods so be it.

[Gaugain]

Im willing OBSE another try, but this time i will backup my WHOLE oblivion folder, even thou its about 20gig.

 

I don't think you need to back up your whole Oblivion folder just to try OBSE. Of course, it's a good idea to always back up your most important ones like save games, etc.

 

As for installation the read me instructions are very clear: copy obse_1_1.dll, obse_1_2.dll, obse_1_2_416.dll, obse_editor_1_0.dll, obse_editor_1_2.dll, and obse_loader.exe into your Oblivion directory.

Launch Oblivion from obse_loader.exe, you can make a short cut to desktop or your choosing location.

Also, if you have installed OBMM, open it, click the setting tab on the right and in the new window, make sure under Oblivion command line you have obse_loader. If it's not there right click obse_loader.exe and copy the path into the command line.

[firefable]

ok, thanks, ill try it, but i still will back up my oblivion folder, my data folder got "lost" once already and i dont want it to happen again, it took ages to find and reinstall all the mods i had.

[Halororor]

50/50. Crashes my game a lot but get's me playing some good mods.

[Varus Torvyn]

Im willing OBSE another try, but this time i will backup my WHOLE oblivion folder, even thou its about 20gig.

First off, I downloaded the latest version. It did irritate me that it installed into a separate folder, unlike Wrye Bash, which installs perfectly.

 

I noted that I had to make a \Data\OBSE\Plugins folder to place the mods (.dll files) into that required OBSE.

 

I opened up the Readme file within Notepad, printed it out, and followed these directions:

 

[ Installation ]

 

1. Copy obse_1_1.dll, obse_1_2.dll, obse_1_2_416.dll, obse_editor_1_0.dll, obse_editor_1_2.dll, and obse_loader.exe to your Oblivion directory. This is usually in your Program Files folder, and should contain files called "Oblivion.exe" and "OblivionLauncher.exe".

2. Run oblivion by running obse_loader.exe from the Oblivion directory.

 

If you use a desktop shortcut to launch Oblivion normally, just update the shortcut to point to obse_loader.exe instead of oblivion.exe.

 

About that last sentence, you can also use Wrye Bash to start Oblivion + OBSE (but I have auto-quit enabled so Wrye Bash exits after launch).

 

Edit - OBSE is needed only if you have mods that need it. The program is actually on a par with OBMM & Wrye Bash because it opens up Oblivion even more.

 

I could make the same argument for Random's FCOM Helper. It actually load-orders mods better than any other program. But you still need to open OBMM afterward for a few seconds, so the Oblivion hidden file "Plugins.txt" will be updated with the latest load-order.

[tyreil829]

i will never get along with OBSE for a long time i bet

 

Carth Onasi

[Varus Torvyn]

Firefable, there's an answer for you two posts back.

[nosisab]

Maybe I can explain why I say OBSE is blamed most of times for wrong reasons. OBSE is just a collection of instructions, they are simple functions, most of times, that fetches some status, variable or reference and returns a value. Such thing is easy to track a bug.

 

Although OBSE is itself a wonderful masterpiece of simplicity it lacks (purposefully) any connections between it's functions. Each one is kept isolate and perform over a single target (or a few, like the vanilla instructions does too). It perform a single command and returns a single value with very small chances of an error.

 

But this isn't true to the mod itself. Mod scripts are complex animals that relies it's logic is flawless, the interactions becomes the script soul. exactly like vanilla functions the OBSE ones will do what it does, exactly like vanilla if the mod logic fails this is beyond the scope of the engine and becomes the script responsibility.

 

So, unless is proved the function itself failed, OBSE is no more to blame for an error than the original game engine itself. And even when such occurs, in OBSE or the mod, Isn't reason to shun them. Bugs are a sadly reality in programming and the better is hunting them down and step by step correct the work to it's full glory.

 

Think about these words.

 

Edit: Don't think by the told that OBSE is a simple work, it demands a high degree of skills in low level programming and deep understanding of the machine structure. But the application itself is blessed by the need to verify only isolated functions with little or no concern with the "how" it will be used.

[simonp92]

of course i like OBSE...

 

the game would be less fun withot the ability cut people in half?? or duplicate an item??

[firefable]

ok, i followed the instructions, i also heard that an error exists when you use SI and OBSE, so i got rid of SI, installed OBSE and just used 1 mod that requires it (Deadly Reflex), and guess what, i had only 1 crash within about 2 hours of playtime. I must admit, i was wrong, i spent those two hours cutting people's throats and i LOVED IT! OBSE is not that bad after all. thanks everybody

 

Edit: Now then, does anyone want to advise an OBSE mod?