Permission settings VS Mod Description Text

[GamerRick]

I have already PMed the author and posted on the mod page (Animated Light Switch) with no success.

 

The permissions and credits are all set to red, but in the description page the text says "Free to use as you please, all i ask is that you give credit where credit is due,"

 

Does the description statement trump the settings stuff?

 

I would want to include the NIF and my own retexture of it with my own mod.

 

Thx

[Reneer]

I would think that the description permissions would trump what the Nexus permissions system says, if only because the author had to write out the description consciously and may not have modified what the Nexus permissions say. But you will want to have site staff give the final word, of course.

[Deleted1205226User]

It is very possible that the Mod have been published prior the Nexus permission system.

 

I've always seen that the words of an author about his/her mods supersede any other system (that's a strong point of Nexus)

 

So, if the description says "Free to use as you please, all i ask is that you give credit where credit is due," follow that requirement and you're good to go. (The files being in Modders Resources & Tutorials is another positive indication).

 

Contact a Staff member if you still have any doubt.

[GamerRick]

Yes. These are all things I have already considered. But it doesn't make sense that Nexus would add this Permissions and Credits thing to all mods and then default them all to the red "absolutely not" settings like that, expecting authors to revisit their long forgotten mods and change them.. (Well, it's actually quite stupid to have done that without anything in the FAQ about it.)

 

Meanwhile, they tell everyone that they are not allowed to use/edit/convert any mod without the explicit permission to do so. I even read a post about how you can't do anything with a mod if the author requires permission (the orange setting) but then ignores all contact.

 

I also believe that the text trumps those settings, but would like to see the staff address this.

[Deleted1205226User]

It make perfect sense to have permission & credit locked by default. This ensure that a Mod will never be used without permission.

It don't think it was expected that authors revisit their long forgotten mods and change them.

 

The downfall is Mods who's author never took the time to add a permission section in their description or read-mes will be locked forever.

 

""Free to use as you please, all i ask is that you give credit where credit is due," in a description seems like an explicit permission to me.

[Reneer]

Yes. These are all things I have already considered. But it doesn't make sense that Nexus would add this Permissions and Credits thing to all mods and then default them all to the red "absolutely not" settings like that, expecting authors to revisit their long forgotten mods and change them.. (Well, it's actually quite stupid to have done that without anything in the FAQ about it.)

 

Meanwhile, they tell everyone that they are not allowed to use/edit/convert any mod without the explicit permission to do so. I even read a post about how you can't do anything with a mod if the author requires permission (the orange setting) but then ignores all contact.

 

I also believe that the text trumps those settings, but would like to see the staff address this.

It makes perfect sense to default to the most conservative position, i.e. "you cannot do anything without permission". Why? Because that is what the law says. Specifically, copyright law states that you cannot take something that is protected by copyright, which mods are, and redistribute it or modify it (among other things as well) without the permission of the copyright holder.

Edited October 15, 2018 by Reneer

[GamerRick]

When I first looked at the mod, I saw this:

 

Asset use permission
You are not allowed to use assets from this file under any circumstances

 

Later, I read the description and saw:

 

: Free to use as you please, all i ask is that you give credit where credit is due, happy modding.

 

It doesn't matter if the permission setting were the orange one instead "must get permission..." if the author hasn't bothered to edit the mod since 2010 and does not respond to a PM or message on the mod page.

 

I have no idea if the permission thing were set that way by Nexus and injected onto the mod page after the author's last edit or what. I can see two obvious solutions to this:

 

1. Someone at the Nexus actually reads the mod page to adjust those settings to match the author's words.

2. The text of the permissions is changed to reflect that it was injected without knowing the author's intentions and is thus voided by anything the author has said.

 

Here is an example for the auto-generated one:

 

 

Asset use permission
Unless the author has explicitly stated their use permissions, you are not allowed to use assets from this file under any circumstances.

 

The ones the author can select would be different. That way there would be no confusion over what their intentions are.

[Mktavish]

The fact that it is just a modders resource , and not content you plug and play experiencing as a gamer.

Says it's purpose for being on the nexus for download , is for re-use.

Would it really be just something to up load and say ... Oooo look at what I made , but neener neener , you can't use it ?

 

Like pixelhate said ... the explicit permission appears to exist.

[GamerRick]

The fact that it is just a modders resource , and not content you plug and play experiencing as a gamer.

Says it's purpose for being on the nexus for download , is for re-use.

Would it really be just something to up load and say ... Oooo look at what I made , but neener neener , you can't use it ?

 

Like pixelhate said ... the explicit permission appears to exist.

 

I made this post because I AM CONFUSED BY THIS!!! :huh:

 

I wondered if I even understood those permission settings. What exactly do I need to use that light switch in my mod? What if I just made it a dependency so that others would have to download and install the files for it, and all my mod did was make an activator out of it and placed it as-is in my mod? Even that falls under "Asset Use", no?

 

Does an author have the right to create a Modder's Resource, and then not let anyone use it, except in their personal mods that they don't upload anywhere? I know the answer is YES.

 

The same author has another resource "Books Debunked" he created in 2009. He set the asset use to "Must get permission" and doesn't say anything in the description. In this case, you are SOL if he ignores your attempt to get permission. This also makes it look like his settings for the 2010 mod I want to use may be intentional.

 

I don't like guessing about it. Sure it seems that the description trumps the settings. Yet, we are forced to ask about it in the forums, because the Nexus makes no attempt to explain it anywhere that I know of.

Edited October 17, 2018 by GamerRick

[Reneer]

I mean, since you want an answer from a moderator on this issue, have you contacted one? Or did you only message the mod author?

Edited October 18, 2018 by Reneer