Anyone else sick TO DEATH of Vampires and Werewolves?

[Dante1327]

Yeah i must agree, again with the Vamps...i hope it is more than just a Van helsing clone.

 

Also i'm betting it breaks every mod i have and destroys my game saves to boot :/ think i'll wait to buy the DLC.

[ForeuZe]

Give this OP a medal. The Elder Scrolls series are the only ones where I don't mind all the mysticism fluff most likely because it's well worked out. I don't mind the werewolf, as it's Hircine's typical creation, but vampires tend to get on my nerves really fast as it's always the same thing over and over again. Best Bethesda could have done is to have made a TES variant of it, on which you could say 'Hey, it nearly looks like vampirism!' and not straight into it.

[dwellufool]

You're looking at this like part of the fad.

 

They (vamps/wolves) both have justifiable lore and look like a nice piece of story will surround either side.

 

"B'aww it's got TWILIGHT bulls*** IN IT!!"

 

All you're doing is making a hate bandwagon with this thread for something you haven't even f***ing played yet.

 

Seriously, what the hell is this mentality with gamers? I have a hard time getting used to how entitled gamers feel even though I'm part of the generation where companies provided this pseudo-entitlement.

 

 

Let me make an example.

 

DIABLO 3 HAS DEMONS AND s***, OMFG, THERE ARE SO MANY DEMONS EVERYWHERE I WANT SOMETHING NNNEEEEW.

 

FORGET THE STORY AND GAMEPLAY.

 

DEMONS ARE FOR BABIES.

[Seviraph]

You're looking at this like part of the fad.

 

They (vamps/wolves) both have justifiable lore and look like a nice piece of story will surround either side.

 

"B'aww it's got TWILIGHT bulls*** IN IT!!"

 

All you're doing is making a hate bandwagon with this thread for something you haven't even f***ing played yet.

 

Seriously, what the hell is this mentality with gamers? I have a hard time getting used to how entitled gamers feel even though I'm part of the generation where companies provided this pseudo-entitlement.

 

 

Let me make an example.

 

DIABLO 3 HAS DEMONS AND s***, OMFG, THERE ARE SO MANY DEMONS EVERYWHERE I WANT SOMETHING NNNEEEEW.

 

FORGET THE STORY AND GAMEPLAY.

 

DEMONS ARE FOR BABIES.

 

thank you for this comment, it expresses my thoughts exactly, we need to hold off any judgement of the DLC until we actually have and experienced it

 

that and

 

I can´t remember lots of games that have vampires or werewolves, I don´t care about the fad with the twilight and stuff, I allways loved old vampire and werewolf stuff and I would love to see more games about it, like a remake of the vampire the masquerade bloodlines or even a vampire the masquerade 3.

 

this I don't remember many games that have Vampires and Werewolves in it, but I guess that's just me

[Georgiegril]

Well. I agree that it is always good to keep an open mind and be hopeful. It's not so much that there are vampires in gaming everywhere as they are everywhere else. I look to fantasy gaming to get away from the real world, and these days I can't even watch a car commercial without it involving vampires. o_O

 

If they are looking to increase their girl gamer marketshare, I hope they will consider next time simply making Skyrim a place where at least a few of the marriageable NPC men are witty and good looking, and keep their personalities after marriage. Maybe the DLC vampires will fit this description, and I will have to re-evaluate my position? :D I do appreciate Bethesda putting out new material, better than just adding a few more dungeons or something.

[Mjel72]

As long as I can destroy them as an option then I will be happy.

[AxlRocks]

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Zombies however... I am sick to death of.

 

 

Agree with this. Werewolves and Vampires are fine by me, as it seems much of the blind hype surrounding both has died down a considerable amount, and they're established in lore as well of course, but if Beth made a "b a zombie! Lulz!!!!!!!" DLC, oh, I would be fuming lol Yeah, they're in lore as well, but they're in the category of blind hype, for me.

 

I don't really understand the whole zombie craze. I've never thought zombies were interesting in any meaningful degree, personally, and the only games I've played with horror depictions of zombies are the classic Resident Evils. Even then, I found other enemies much more frightening/cool. But of course, if zombies float you boat, it's all good too, but it's just that this recent hype has gotten pretty annoying in my opinion. Especially gaming wise.

[sukeban]

I don't really understand the whole zombie craze. I've never thought zombies were interesting in any meaningful degree, personally, and the only games I've played with horror depictions of zombies are the classic Resident Evils. Even then, I found other enemies much more frightening/cool. But of course, if zombies float you boat, it's all good too, but it's just that this recent hype has gotten pretty annoying in my opinion. Especially gaming wise.

I think the reason zombies are popular is because zombies are, or at least they were when zombies were still new, supposed to be "us" or that they were created by us. The original Night of the Living Dead was some HEAVY social commentary about the civil rights movement and about the modern organization of society. Zombies are popular because they play upon realistic fears in industrial societies, i.e. technology, immoral scientists, apocalypse, etc. Zombies, as such, are far more "modern" than vampires or werewolves which are rooted in far older, primitive fears.

 

But, actually on topic: I don't have beef with vampires and/or werewolves, and I think that Dawnguard looks pretty cool in a highly Van Helsing sort of way. If it were me making the DLC, however, I would have just added in short swords, spears, crossbows and built out the map toward either High Rock or Hammerfell. Then I'd have added in an epic Thalmor invasion of High Rock/Hammerfell and tasked the Dragonborn with destroying all Thalmor soldiers on mainland Tamriel.

 

So I guess I view Dawnguard as cool but also sort of "...really?" in terms of what else they might have done. There just seem to be so many plot holes and obvious segues built into the Main Quest and CW in Skyrim, that they seem kind of hard to ignore. Dawnguard seems more like a distraction than an obvious subject for DLC.

[catmagnet]

Argh... vampires... they get boring, because they are not well done. OP goes for guilt by association. Ask yourself why vamps have proven to be so attractive to teenage crowds. There is a very strong sexualized subtext to the whole thing. Think penetration here. Either build on that and do it in a clever, but provocative way, or leave it. If you gonna make vamps just some super-human/monster crossover, than i'd call that a lost opportunity... An opportunity to tender to an adult crowd. Not neccessarily adult as in movies, but something that won't annoy anyone with a little experience in life. Thx for the attention, out of this now.

[JanusForbeare]

To be fair, vampires have been a staple of TES lore since Arena came out in 1994, and werewolves were introduced to the series (along with were-boars, were-bears, were-crocodiles, were-tigers, etc. etc.) a few years later when Daggerfall was released. I don't fault Bethesda for putting them in their games, in fact, if they had neglected to include them in Skyrim, I would have been pretty damn disappointed.

 

I'm not sure I agree with the previous poster than Beth should have sexualized the vampires more - TES vampires have never really been the nearly-human sexy Anne Rice versions that have become a mainstream fad. They've always been more on the "dead" side of undead... in fact, when you became infected with vampirism in Daggerfall, your character would go for a few days before dropping dead. The usual cutscene would play, showing your body being entombed in a graveyard, and you'd wake up underground, in a random tomb, a few days later. As far as Tamriel (and the game) were concerned, you were dead - all guild affiliations dissolved, all bounties on your head lifted, all properties owned reverting to the state, and so on. Eventually, in time, you might discover the vampire clan which infected you (there were several) and become a member of that new "family".

 

Taking this into account, my pet peeve with Skyrim's vamps and wolves should be obvious... Beth has reduced the scope of what used to be vibrant, hidden subplots that added a huge new dimension to the game, and cut them down to a few buffs, a power, and a quest to cure yourself. I'm hoping the DLC will address this, but with the way things at Beth seem to be going these days, the OP is probably right... it's probably a blatant appeal to a demographic only too willing to shell out $50 of their parents' money.