tyreil829 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Horus-Re isnt evil hes a good Bane Knight Carth Onasi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastIstari Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Kind of like how my character is a Chaotic Good Death Knight? WoogieMonster: Chaotic Evil means you're evil. You do evil things, and you don't care how it gets done. Chaotic Good means you do at times break the law for the greater good. Lawful Good: Follows the law, does good things. (Like helping the guard catch a burglar then save a cat from a tree.) Goody-GoodyChaotic Good: Sometimes breaks the law for the greater good. (Robin Hood)Lawful Evil: Commits evil deeds within the confines of the law. (Like a Tyrant. He may commit murder and such, but seeing as he's the head of the place, it's perfectly legal for him.)Chaotic Evil: You commit evil deeds like murder, robbery etc. And you don't care how you do it or if you break the laws or not. (Dark Brotherhood is a pretty good example of this.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEHAIRS Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 neutral, i sometimes kill innoncents and sometimes the outlaws and all of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoginToDownload Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Ooo, game morality discussion. neutral, i sometimes kill innoncents and sometimes the outlaws and all of thatKilling evil people != Good. 'Tis all about the purpose, intent, and the effects of the action. Lawful Good: Follows the law, does good things. (Like helping the guard catch a burglar then save a cat from a tree.) Goody-GoodyChaotic Good: Sometimes breaks the law for the greater good. (Robin Hood)Lawful Evil: Commits evil deeds within the confines of the law. (Like a Tyrant. He may commit murder and such, but seeing as he's the head of the place, it's perfectly legal for him.)Chaotic Evil: You commit evil deeds like murder, robbery etc. And you don't care how you do it or if you break the laws or not. (Dark Brotherhood is a pretty good example of this.)I didn't think Lawful/Chaotic corresponded so much with the laws of the powers that be as consistent/universal versus inconsistent/specific. That is to say, personal laws. Of course, willingly submitting to laws can also be a part of that. So the Dark Brotherhood would be quite Lawful Evil (maybe not so much the orc), and rebellion against a tyrant wouldn't necessarily be chaotic. At least, that's how I see the lawful/chaotic side of it. My current character cares somewhat about people, but for most folks, only when there's no reason not to. I call him evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnySnatcher Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 Id like to think that my main character (and the only character I play. Im such a sad case) is good though he has been tempted to do some questionable things in the past. I'll see if I can scrounge up a few pics of him somewhere. Isnt this a rather strange area to post this topic in btw? yes it is a strange area :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macmert Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I am a sellsword, kill for the highest bidder...I like your way with words. I guess all my characters are evil, until the part in the Dark Brotherhood where the orc talks about killing a child. i kill him and i.. think that's good, right?Well, technically I think that falls under Chaotic Evil, doing a bad thing for a good reason. My girl was Chaotic Evil just long enough to get me through the thieves guild (bunch of Robin Hood pansies), but now that I'm passed that, she's full on True Evil, no negotiations no second chances nothing lives to fight another day. If Oblivion had D&D rules, she would be so deep into Blackguard that no amount of praying would ever save her. Thanks man :D BTW doing bad things for a good reason falls to the alignment chaotic good... chaotic evil means doing bad things for evil or no reason :D the line between lawful and chaotic refers to the rules (written and unwritten) and regulations of the land you are living, not personal laws, say, rebelling against a tyrant is chaotic, since you want the rules to change... It is defined like that in D&D at least :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoginToDownload Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Where'd I put that PHB... It reads: Lawful Good: A Lawful Good character acts as a good person is expected or required to act...She tells the truth, keeps her word, helps those in need, and speaks out against injustice.Chaotic Good: A chaotic good character acts as his conscience directs him with little regard for what others expect of him.Lawful Neutral: A lawful neutral character acts as law, tradition, or a personal code directs her...She may believe in personal order and live by a code or standard, or she may believe in order for all and favor a strong, organized government.Chaotic Neutral: A chaotic neutral character follows his whims. He is an individualist first and last. He values his own liberty but doesn't strive to protect others' freedom.Lawful Evil: A lawful evil villain methodically takes what he wants within the limits of his code of conduct without regard for whom it hurts. He cares about tradition, loyalty, and order but not about freedom, dignity, or life. After all, needing to obey tyrants would royally screw Paladins over. :P I'm pretty sure a "The ends justify the means" mentality isn't necessarily chaotic, but might not be good either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoogieMonster Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I guess this is why they remake those insanely thick D&D rule books every year, so everyone can have the same definitions and explanations for this stuff. That idea doesn't seem to be working though. Somewhere, in a dark basement illuminated only by the glow of computer monitor and ripe with the smell of cheesy puffs, a D&D dungeon master's head just exploded from reading this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosisab Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Batorian's D&D characters are samples of Lawful Evil, they bind you by contracts that will cost you dearly. They will not lie to you but they can aways avoid telling the whole truth, telling you just the trustful part they are interested you know... Why do this remember me things in real world? Chaotic Evil doesn't care for rules of any kind, they will try to take whatever they want by all means they can. In general lines chaotic in this context tends to define people to whom the own individuality is in first plane, they may respond differently to the same event if situation changes slightly. While chaotic good personages tends to place others in high account they will aways be the own judge of what they deem good. Lawful Good is a tough one to interpret whenever facing some order that defies individual fairness. Maybe this is the reason they are aways trying to end the own life in helpless battles to save a poor unhappy noone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastIstari Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Like the picture implies, being Lawful Good doesn't mean you always try to solve problems with words. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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