What does this gobbledygook message mean?

[oldbastard42]

I disabled then uninstalled CBBE through Vortex, then reinstalled it which went well, but when I got to enabling I got the following message. I've read it many times but have absolutely no idea what it's attempting to convey.

 

 

http://repo.duckdns.org/pub/junk/screenshot-003.jpg

 

1) "mod files were changed outside Vortex" - erm, no, no they weren't. All those other mods were installed through Vortex.

2) "you can undo these changes now..." - erm, what changes?

3) "...or apply them permanently" - eh?

4) "links were deleted..." - err, which links and who or what deleted them?

5) "..Save will remove the files permanently..." - erm, which files, and what does save want to save?

6) "...revert will restore them" - umm yeah, ok, restore what?

 

Completely vexed here.

 

EDIT - oh yes, and CBBE didn't even install properly, there are no .exe files or anything in the folder :wallbash:

[BigBizkit]

Hi,

 

This should explain it in more detail: https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/External_Changes

 

 

The prompt for external changes occurs when you deploy, so it might be that you or an external application has made changes to those mods a while ago, but Vortex will only ask you to confirm the changes when you deploy again.

[Grestorn]

To me this sounds like you actually started the Outfit studio to create the outfits. After that, Vortex will show the dialog you made a screenshot of. Just answer that dialog with "Confirm" and you're fine. Then Vortex will persist the changes made by the Outfit studio, so if you disable and reenable the mods that were modified by Outfit studio, the modifications will also be restored properly.

 

Which folder are you looking for when searching for the exes? I'm pretty sure that if you've just installed and enabled CBBE, they're at the correct spot.

[oldbastard42]

Hello and thanks for the super fast replies :).

 

@BigBizKit - Thanks for the link, I looked at it but it only really tells me why the message appears, not what it means.

 

@Grestorn - ok, that makes sense. The .exe files used to be in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Tools\BodySlide, but they're not there now. I searched the entire harddrive for body*.exe but only found the ones in the backup folder I made prior to uninstalling - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Tools\x-BodySlide.

 

I copied the .exe files and a few missing folders over and it now sort of works, but strange that the install didn't re-create them in the new folder.

 

Did I miss something or do something wrong on install? I simply selected "Install", then clicked on "Deploy", then "Enable". Tried it again but still the same result. Strange.

[Grestorn]

No, please don't copy the files manually. Please disable CBBE and then delete the CalienteTools from your data directory, to clean up your manual copying. Then you can enable CBBE again to restore the proper state.

 

You have to install and enable BodySlide separately! Get it from here:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/201

 

Then you'll find it in the proper directory.

[oldbastard42]

Well that was interesting!

 

Thanks for the link, I downloaded and installed that "blue" Skyrim version (I normally install the green ones for Fallout4). It complained about not having a managed game or something (sorry, forgotten the exact text), so I just clicked OK and it installed the bodyslide.exe in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\CalienteTools\BodySlide.

 

When I run it it starts but the Presets and Outfit drop boxes are empty and I can't do anything. Also nothing happens when I click on Preview. Very odd.

 

I then reinstalled CBBE (the Fallout 4 green version) and it installed into C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Tools\BodySlide.

 

Bodyslide used to install into the same folder as CBBE, but it's not there. Both of those folders have the file "__folder_managed_by_vortex" in them.

 

I just don't get it, sorry, I'm too old for this complicated sh*t, it does my head in lol.

 

If there's any logs or stuff that might help, just let me know and I'll post them up.

 

Thanks for the help :smile:.

 

 

*EDIT: Woohoo, it worked!!! I disabled and uninstalled the blue Skyrim version, re-downloaded the green Fallout 4 version, installed, enabled and bingo - all the files are now where they should be in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\Data\Tools.

 

No idea why it worked though, maybe you eggheads do :geek: ?

 

Thanks for all the help chaps. :dance:

[Grestorn]

Sorry, I missed the fact that you were talking about Fallout. My mistake. Of course you had to use the FO4 version of BodySlide:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/25/

 

Still, BodySlide is not part of CBBE, neither for Skyrim nor for Fallout 4.

 

Sorry for adding to the confusion... :(

[Tannin42]

I disabled then uninstalled CBBE through Vortex, then reinstalled it which went well, but when I got to enabling I got the following message. I've read it many times but have absolutely no idea what it's attempting to convey.

 

 

http://repo.duckdns.org/pub/junk/screenshot-003.jpg

 

1) "mod files were changed outside Vortex" - erm, no, no they weren't. All those other mods were installed through Vortex.

2) "you can undo these changes now..." - erm, what changes?

3) "...or apply them permanently" - eh?

4) "links were deleted..." - err, which links and who or what deleted them?

5) "..Save will remove the files permanently..." - erm, which files, and what does save want to save?

6) "...revert will restore them" - umm yeah, ok, restore what?

 

Completely vexed here.

 

EDIT - oh yes, and CBBE didn't even install properly, there are no .exe files or anything in the folder :wallbash:

 

There isn't really a point in disagreeing with the first point and then acting as if Vortex knew you disagreed and then intentionally misinterpreting everything else.

Vortex is convinced that files that Vortex deployed were changed by another application. The rest of the dialog has to be interpreted under that assumption.

 

2) When it says "undo these changes" then it means: the changes the dialog is showing you, right there. You made a screenshot of those changes

3) same.

4) The links that the other application deleted. who or what deleted them Vortex can't know, that's pretty much the whole point. At one point in time vortex deployed files, at the next they were gone. Vortex doesn't know the who or why, only the what, that's why you need to decide what should happen.

5+6) Again, the files listed in that dialog that you made a screenshot of. And as the dialog says, you save the changes. Since the change is a file deletion the files will be removed permanently. That's exactly what it says. This is not hard to understand: You select save, the files listed below go bye bye. You select revert the files are restored.

You choose if you want to keep the files.

 

Again, the dialog asks you if you want to irreversably delete mod files - if you actually don't know why they would be deleted the only sane choice is to revert the changes. Isn't that obvious?

[oldbastard42]

 

I disabled then uninstalled CBBE through Vortex, then reinstalled it which went well, but when I got to enabling I got the following message. I've read it many times but have absolutely no idea what it's attempting to convey.

 

 

http://repo.duckdns.org/pub/junk/screenshot-003.jpg

 

1) "mod files were changed outside Vortex" - erm, no, no they weren't. All those other mods were installed through Vortex.

2) "you can undo these changes now..." - erm, what changes?

3) "...or apply them permanently" - eh?

4) "links were deleted..." - err, which links and who or what deleted them?

5) "..Save will remove the files permanently..." - erm, which files, and what does save want to save?

6) "...revert will restore them" - umm yeah, ok, restore what?

 

Completely vexed here.

 

EDIT - oh yes, and CBBE didn't even install properly, there are no .exe files or anything in the folder :wallbash:

 

There isn't really a point in disagreeing with the first point and then acting as if Vortex knew you disagreed and then intentionally misinterpreting everything else.

Vortex is convinced that files that Vortex deployed were changed by another application. The rest of the dialog has to be interpreted under that assumption.

 

2) When it says "undo these changes" then it means: the changes the dialog is showing you, right there. You made a screenshot of those changes

3) same.

4) The links that the other application deleted. who or what deleted them Vortex can't know, that's pretty much the whole point. At one point in time vortex deployed files, at the next they were gone. Vortex doesn't know the who or why, only the what, that's why you need to decide what should happen.

5+6) Again, the files listed in that dialog that you made a screenshot of. And as the dialog says, you save the changes. Since the change is a file deletion the files will be removed permanently. That's exactly what it says. This is not hard to understand: You select save, the files listed below go bye bye. You select revert the files are restored.

You choose if you want to keep the files.

 

Again, the dialog asks you if you want to irreversably delete mod files - if you actually don't know why they would be deleted the only sane choice is to revert the changes. Isn't that obvious?

 

 

 

...well if it was obvious I obviously wouldn't have asked the question - obviously o_O .

[Riessa]

I agree with you old, it isn't obvious to me either. Do younger ppl speak a different language? People my age did not grow up with computers, (hint, my senior year in high school we got a computer the size of a large desk. School administrators were very proud. course students weren't allowed to use it.) The part about links being deleted still confuses the s#*! out of me. Which is probably why I can't seem to get bodyslide to work right either. Can someone plz explain it so an old broad like me can understand?