NobodySignificant Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 My computer crashed twice when i was initially trying to write this up so here's a short version, in order of increasing severity: -The logo itself is a lot less neat than the Nexus logo. When one has to stare at this so many times when working with mods this becomes really apparent.-The number of clicks and wait times are abysmal for something that should be an improvement upon NMM.-Switching between settings for shared or profiled undoes even settings it should not. Especially when switching from one direction to the other.-Importing mods from NMM after the process was previously interrupted means one has to click a billion times because each mod needs overwrite permission and the import progress is not stored.-One cannot select a download folder or any other folder that already contains something, even if that something is the stuff that Vortex itself put there previously.-The Downloads (used to be Mods) folder is still used to store the archives of the mods. This is 100% unacceptable. We have a folder for the virtual installation of all mod files where everything is extracted and which should ideally never be touched, since everything is handled via hardlinks. Compression is far from ideal for most mod files, so this leaves one with almost twice the HDD space occupied. In the case of 40GB mod folders which are not unusual around here, this can become a serious problem, since a single game will then take up 100GB. I thought that at least with a completely fresh and new mod manager this glaring oversight from NMM would've been fixed.-Last, but absolutely not least, the view of the installed mods is what settled that i will not use Vortex in the foreseeable future. Instead of viewing almost 30 mods, even with the download box pinned to the bottom of NMM, in Vortex i can see 11 at a time. And these lack basically all info, the total lack of categories being the most ridiculously apparent issue. There is also no easy to use right click context menu. Vortex uses up a lot of space for fancy icons, sleek design, and really big gui fields for the mods, and this comes fully at the expense of the main purpose: actually managing the mods. Please actually consider fixing this, because with everyone having been excited for Vortex and it turning out like this it devalues the whole Nexus infrastructure. :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchan05 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1. Really? A Logo is an issue? I personally like it better. Cleaner.2. Because it's deploying. I actually find it faster. If you don't want it to deploy after every single install, you can set it to do that you know, so it only deploys after you finish installing.3. This "may" be an issue, but not really a big one. So make a new folder and drag the contents onto Vortex.4. THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT THE ARCHIVES BE STORED. This single comment makes me think you have no idea what you are talking about. How long have you been modding that you think the archives should be deleted is a good idea after installing? Installing the mod does not unpack everything. An example would be if I install AOS, and then later on decided I wanted Traps are Dangerous, are you telling me that I have to redownload AOS, because the archive that contained the AOS patch for Traps are Dangerous was deleted because I already installed it? When you go through a FOMOD installer, some patches are left inside and not unpacked because you didn't choose them, to save space. Are you saying that a Mod Manager should unpack and insert files not related to your installation just so you can delete the archive? That would cause problems.5. There is a compact view in the settings so you cans see more than 11 at a time. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grestorn Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Switching from user to shared operation:It's done like this on purpose and that's a good thing. If you want to move the config data from user to globally managed, you can do so. If the tool would do that by itself, it would most certainly cause serious grieve for people who don't understand what's happening. The way it is, the operation is save in either direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 you posted something similar to this post on October 18, and a lot of the points you made then are duplicated here, which is fine. However, one thing that is common between your posts is that your computer crashed on you then, and when you were making your post above. This, to me, is an indication that your system needs some attention, because that shouldn't happen and I cannot help but wonder if those localised issues where your system is crashing on you, is tainting your Vortex experience? A few of the issues you listed are not techincal, they are personal taste. For example, you don't like the logo - that's fine, and acceptable, but I do not see how a logo is a contributor to the program being unusable? If it's a list of gripes because you don't like the style, or the fonts, or the colors, then these are not really considered reasons for a program to be unusable. In terms of deployment taking time, this again, could be something environmental at your end. are you deploying to a SSD or a HDD or a hybrid? That would obviously have an effect on the duration. Are you deploying a lot of mods concurrently, or one mod at a time? In terms of the amount of space taken by mods - unless you have several physical copies of mods in various directories, i do not know how your mod space can grow so much. there are other posts on the forums where it is explained that what you see in windows file manager is not 100% accurate in terms of the amount of space being used. if you are seeing several copies of mods/archives and other paraphernalia related to a single mod then that may be worth a ticket to the devs so they can look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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