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Is the ryzen good for modded FNV(especially TTW)?


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Need to buy a (mid-end) new computer to play FNV(TTW).

 

I'm thinking about...

-R5 2400G (or R5 2600)

-An a320 motherboard from gigabyte, I'll OC rams, not the cpu.

-As for the graphics card, i'll go with the new 1050ti if used ones are not recommended.

-cheap 250 GB NVMe ssd, enough to put the OS and TTW.

-3000mhz gaming ram

 

Several people say the ryzen is not good for FNV.

What do you think about my thoughts?

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FNV/TTW is the wrong game to use as the benchmark for your new box purchasing decision. Any modern hardware with at least 2 cores and 8GB of system RAM (so you can give the game a dedicated 4GB) running around 3GHz should do just fine. A 32-bit game designed for the 2010 XBox and PCs is much more limited by it's design than your new hardware. My box is about as old as the game and runs fine after proper configuration tuning. (Of course I play on a pair of 22inch LCD monitors instead of a TV, so I'm happy with the designed cap of 60 FPS.) Please see the wiki "Display resolution versus Image Size" article.

For many years it's been my advice that you get the best "bang for the buck" buying the top rated "previous year's" video cards rather than the latest releases. You always pay a premium for the "hot new" cards. Around the year end holidays all the stores are trying to clear out their old stock to make room for the new stuff targeted for the XMas sales.

 

Once you select a better, more demanding modern game for your benchmark, check out the latest "gaming motherboard" comparisons (such as "PCGamer") as well as reviews of the game that provide benchmarks between them. "Anecdotal" advice is limited to just what a given player is using and depends heavily upon just how technically sophisticated they are. It's generally not "objective".

I never recommend "used". There is a reason people are offloading it, and you have no idea how long it is going to last.

Business assumes it will "amortize" (get it's money's worth) out of a box in three years time. A home user should expect five years. You should be targeting a box that will last your current most demanding needs for at least that long.

-Dubious-

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If you're going for an A320 chipset motherboard, you would need to find a means to update the BIOS in order for it to recognize a 2nd gen Ryzen CPU/APU. Or you could get a lower end B450 board and not have to deal with that issue.

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The b450 yeah. Shouldn't have considered the a320 boards from the beginning.

B450 boards' storemi function looks nice too. And it seems some b450 boards from msi even handle the 2700x.

Is the 2600 and rx580 4gb enough to handle ttw, nv reloaded and awop?

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The b450 yeah. Shouldn't have considered the a320 boards from the beginning.

B450 boards' storemi function looks nice too. And it seems some b450 boards from msi even handle the 2700x.

Is the 2600 and rx580 4gb enough to handle ttw, nv reloaded and awop?

 

That should be fine, this is an old game that doesn't fully use modern hardware anyway so you ain't gonna get buttery smooth perfection no matter what you throw at it. I went from a GTX 970 to GTX 980ti and then onto a GTX 1080ti and got very little in the way of improved performance with each upgrade. However there is one modern thing the game does benefit from and that's an SSD, the load times are much the same but stuttering is greatly reduced.

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There's a bunch of misconceptions and disinformation. I'll clear it up for you.

 

The main performance killer in Bethesda's games, yes from Morrowind all the way up to Fallout 4, is draw calls. You can see how many are being issued in intensive scenes using ENB. Performance craps out at above 3,000 draw calls in DirectX 9, and 6,000 for DirectX 11, give or take a wee bit. Zen and Zen+ have draw call performance around Ivybridge levels, when the driver thread is on the same CCX as the game's main threads. Zen 2's draw call performance is on par with Intel's xLake CPU architecture. Luckily, the Ryzen APUs have one whole quad core CCX, rather than multiple cut-down CCXs.

 

Unfortunately, the APUs listed as Ryzen 3000 are actually Zen+, same as the Ryzen 2000 APUs. AMD's Ryzen 4000 APUs however will be on Zen 2, code named Renoir. They're not out yet though.

 

If you can wait a month to see if any info on Renoir's release date, that would be best. Otherwise, yeah just go for that Zen+ APU. If you get a B chipset, you'd be able to get a 4000 when they release if you find performance lacking

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