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I'm at a loss (frequent CTD)


WakahisaSensei

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Not sure how this forum thing works but, I could use some help with my game. I go to start a new game and the game crahses. It crunches for a couple seconds and then it closes to desktop.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
7 7 WM Flora Fixes.esp
8 8 Campfire.esm
9 9 Falskaar.esm
10 a daymoyl.esm
11 b ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
12 c TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
13 d Cutting Room Floor.esp
14 e Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
15 f UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
16 10 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
17 11 dD-No Screen Blood.esp
18 12 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
19 13 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
20 14 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
21 15 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
22 16 RLO - Interiors.esp
23 17 RealisticRoomRental.esp
24 18 Rigmor.esp
25 19 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
26 1a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
27 1b Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
28 1c SkyRe_Main.esp
29 1d 3DNPC.esp
30 1e Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
31 1f SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
32 20 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
33 21 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
34 22 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
35 23 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
36 24 RLO - Exteriors.esp
37 25 tpos_crf_patch_01.esp
38 26 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
39 27 Ghosu - Project Flintlock - Ammo Addon.esp
40 28 Footprints.esp
41 29 SkyUI.esp
42 2a CuttingRoomFloorRemoveAltArmorEffect.esp
43 2b TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp
44 2c RLO - Effects.esp
45 2d RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
46 2e Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp
47 2f whiterunMarket.esp
48 30 Undeath.esp
49 31 ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp
50 32 SoS - Civilization.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
51 33 Ranger Cabins.esp
52 34 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
53 35 Pureweather.esp
54 36 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
55 37 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
56 38 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
57 39 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
58 3a OwnCivilWar.esp
59 3b Immersive Weapons.esp
60 3c SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
61 3d CornerofTheSkyrim.esp
62 3e CRF - Lighting Overhaul.esp
63 3f PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
64 40 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
65 41 High Level Enemies - SIC.esp
66 42 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
67 43 Cloaks.esp
68 44 Unique Uniques.esp
69 45 Run For Your Lives.esp
70 46 UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
71 47 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
72 48 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
73 49 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
74 4a Purewaters.esp
75 4b TravellersOfSkyrim - UFO Compatibility Patch.esp
76 4c DeadlyMutilation.esp
77 4d RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp
78 4e Immersive Stables 2.0.esp
79 4f SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
80 50 Populated Cities 2.esp
81 51 RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp
82 52 Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
83 53 Immersive Patrols II.esp
84 54 Frostfall.esp
85 55 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
86 56 SkyRe_Races.esp
87 57 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
88 58 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
89 59 Immersive Stables - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
90 5a Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp
91 5b Sneak Tools.esp
92 5c Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
93 5d No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp
94 5e Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
95 5f PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
96 60 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
97 61 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
98 62 SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
99 63 Duel - Combat Realism.esp
100 64 SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
101 65 SkyRe_Combat.esp
102 66 Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp
103 67 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
104 68 Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp
105 69 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
106 6a Dead Body Collision.esp
107 6b RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp
108 6c IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp
109 6d BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
110 6e RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
111 6f RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
112 70 TrueStorms.esp
113 71 TrueStorms-RLO.esp
114 72 WetandCold.esp
115 73 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
116 74 High Level Enemies - SIC Falskaar.esp
117 75 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
118 76 The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp
119 77 FNIS.esp
120 78 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
121 79 LeftHandRings.esp
122 7a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
123 7b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
124 7c ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp
125 7d CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
126 7e CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
127 7f CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp
128 80 CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp
129 81 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp
130 82 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
131 83 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
132 84 Open Cities Skyrim.esp
133 85 CWIOCSPatch.esp
134 86 ReProccer.esp
135 87 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

I launch the game with the script Extender also.

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Do you use load order sorting software like LOOT?

 

If so, my next recommendation is to use TES5edit to check for mod conflicts. If not then go install LOOT and sort your load order. LOOT isn't perfect but it is extremely useful. 80-90% of the time crashes are load order or mod conflicts. The remaining 10% is usually the user did something wrong or the extremely rare case of a very unstable mod.

 

Another option is to, one by one, disable mods and see if the conflict resolves with a particular mod turned off. (Obviously if you disable a mod requirement you should also disable any mods that depend on that requirement or you might get other kinds of trouble.)

 

While my current problems stem from ENB difficulties, I still highly recommend it. If ENB is functioning properly (as it did on my old computer), it can really improve stability. I rarely had any CTD or crashes of any kind when I had ENB functioning.

 

Finally, have you ever deleted mods that you played with? Mod deleting is definitely a bad thing to do. Mods always leave a permanent mark on the game once they're used. If you deleted too many from your game, it can render it very unstable. (I learned this lessen the hard way). Usually the only surefire way to fix the problems caused by deleted mods is to reinstall the game.

 

That's the main gist of what I can offer with the info you've given me. A more knowledgeable modder might be able to tell you what's wrong at a glance. Really though, I can only recommend my process for finding problems and common causes I know of. Sometimes none of the above help and I have to start from scratch entirely before I figure out what the problem was.

 

Considering the crash is at a new game, it could be that something is conflicting with Alternate Start. If you can load saves that you already have, or if you turn off alternate start and things begin to work, that would be a good test.

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Right off I see you have lots of water mods.

 

I see you have several other mods that are just as similar to one another as the water ones , so, I suspect the number of mods that do the same thing in different ways is more likely your problem.

 

When I only used the first version of Realistic Water's the creator said, "It has to be at the bottom of the load order list. Also a warning in the creators post is that it may conflict with any other water mods.

 

31 1f SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
32 20 RealisticWaterTwo.esp


33 21 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp

 

66 42 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

77 4d RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp

 

74 4a Purewaters.esp

 

130 82 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp

131 83 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp

 

Use the STEAM mod order loader in STEAM.

 

If it was me I would put all of them in the load order at the bottom. Test it. If that works Yay! If not un-tick the ones that are from a different author and try that, etc. and so on, repeat until you un-ticked them one by one. Then try the other authors alone one on, the rest off.

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