SicklyAlbatross Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) The one where the ears become deformed and patches appear in the beard. Has anyone come any closer to understanding what this is and why happens? Or what we can do about it? I'm only asking because it's happening more frequently and the old tricks I used to get rid of it are rarely working anymore. Changing presets in Looksmenu used to revert the facial features, but that hasn't been the case lately. Swapping between different character saves doesn't help either. I'm at a loss. Have you guys been having more difficulty with this lately, too, or is it just a problem with my load order/game? Edited November 29, 2018 by DezzyMoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I'm using a dozen or so hair mods and never had a problem. Chances are it's a mod conflict or like you say, a load order issue. LOOT often does a good job at sorting, but it's not perfect and a keen eye needs to be kept on what mod is added where. Vortex has LOOT integrated, but I'm staying with good ol' NMM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SicklyAlbatross Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 That's a good point, but even completely unmodded games have the same issue with the ears. It seems to be a loading bug along the lines of the brown face glitch, but I wish we could tell exactly what's causing this one. At least the brown face bug usually has a fairly straightforward cause. I did manually organise my mods because LOOT won't organise FO4 for me anymore. (Even though it organised Skyrim just fine. :confused:) So that could be part of the issue. And I'm not quite ready to commit to Vortex until it's out of Beta. Besides that, the only new hair mod I've added recently was from Bethseda.net. Which could very well be the conflict? I'll have to test it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Just like NMM, every release/update of Vortex will be Beta, because untested. And LOOT depends on its Masterlist. It's the Masterlist that gets mods added that need a specific place in the load order. For 85% of mods released it doesn't matter where they are in the load order because they don't get in the way of any other mod. But there's the odd one out that needs to be loaded after another mod and that didn't yet make it on LOOT's Masterlist and maybe never will because of its small scope or obscurity. Now that you mention the flat ears, I do remember having this issue once with just the one NPC: the Sgt. Major responsible for the BOS Inventory at Boston Airport. His eyes were deformed to the point he looked like his eyes had been gauged-out, his ears were pointy and horizontal and his mouth looked like the lips had been turned inside out. I found it odd of course but never gave it much attention as it was just this one character... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SicklyAlbatross Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) I don't know what's going on anymore. I also have no idea if it would help to lay out the whole issue, but I'll give it a shot. The reason this is bugging me so much is that the NPC most affected is my companion Birdie, who I take a lot of screenshots with. I also have FROST installed. So every now and then, I'll go restart FROST from its base save file, and then go collect Birdie in Forest Grove and reapply his face preset. Which used to work fine. But now when I apply it to a Birdie who didn't have the ear bug...after he's given the preset he has the bug. Sometimes. This can happen during an old FROST save, or a new FROST save. When I start with a new save his ears are fine. But if I were to die and the game would reload to my last save, his ears will be buggy afterward. It also happens if I load from one save to another in-game, but not when I save and exit to the desktop and then relaunch. If any of that made sense. Which I'm starting to doubt. :wacko: What I've tried: Removing the Bethseda.net mod, moving Looksmenu up and down my load order, and trying LOOT organizing again. Nada. The problem still persists pretty badly through every other save. So I waited, like, a day or so to reopen Fallout 4 and now his ears are fixed again. I don't know why waiting helps, but it always has, even when the other solutions were working too. I just wish it would be easier to identify what's caused this to get so much worse? Or even why Looksmenu used to revert the ears, and now it doesn't? If you had any final thoughts on the matter, I'd really appreciate them. Otherwise, I guess I'll have to wait for a bit before I intend to open the game and take screenshots with him?? :turned: Edited December 5, 2018 by DezzyMoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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