Gees, f4se NOT working yet again.

[aufisch]

 

 

Why don't you just hold off on updating your FO4 installation for a few days until the new version of F4SE gets released?

 

That's not entirely it. Fallout 1.9.4 was as stable as a Bethesda game could get. All later updates didn't really fix or improve anything (hence the missing update logs from Bethesda) but many people reported graphic glitches, increasing instability (even without F4SE and depended mods), massive slow downs and so on. I know of several people who have had nothing but trouble since the cash-grabbing "it's for Creation Club only" updates began.

 

I myself had trouble getting the 1.10.45 - 1.10.55 series (can't remember the exact numbering there) to work, and I experienced frequent crashes combined with really weird chromatic graphic glitches at the time. This was with F4SE and related mods fully updated (I always hold off updating until all my mods are updated as well), but with no new mods installed. Luckily for me, the recent updates seem to be more compatible with my system than the "5-er"Series. Others however were not that lucky and are still struggling.

 

Never mind the silly pictures of huge aluminum-hats, I agree that this is still an outrage and that complaining about it should not stop (I mean, has Bethesda ever explained as to why it is necessary to change the executable each and every time they add some more re-colors to the Creation Club?).

However, I personally think that Nexus is not exactly the right place for it. The Beth-Forums would probably be more suitable, although I doubt that Bethesda employees are actually reading it, and even if they do, those low-level support staff most likely won't be able to do about it.

[MarkusTay]

So which is worse? Them PURPOSELY breaking the .exe each time (and BTW, I had rolled mine back, and it STILL stopped working - apparently if you don't go 'offline', something keeps checking to see if you updated and causes a CTD), or them just not caring... AT ALL?

 

For the past two days I was (mostly) in the second camp - they just don't care how many people they hurt. However, since I played for two days after being updated - and everything worked fine - and THEN I started getting crashes at EXACTLY the same point in time (no matter what I did or where I went,even if I just stood there and did nothing), that tells me that despite me having the old executable (and I double-checked), something is knocking me out of the game... ON PURPOSE.

 

So I was running the old .exe - which I downloaded from Steam (and that was jumping through hoops to get) - but I was still seeing the ads in the upper right corner in my load screen for the 'new content', so I am still online, but my game RAN FINE for two days, and somehow Steam/Beth took exception to me running the game with the old .exe.

 

So basically, it was like I had a gun to my head - update, or we will crash your game every 150 seconds. That was what I experienced.

 

And the funny thing is, I was actually tempted to buy that alien crap from the CC (I have coins leftover from when I first got the comp. version of FO4), because I love the aliens (I keep one at every settlement), but after this strong-arming, I will NEVER buy anything from the CC again. They are purposely forcing the comp. players out of the arena by nerfing modding. I am sure of it, because of my own personal experience over the past two days.

[Undeadbob666]

Thats what happens when you use a pirated version of the game.

[aufisch]

Thats what happens when you use a pirated version of the game.

 

Rather big assumption you are making here, or is it trolling already?

 

I don't know about MarkusTay, but I actually keep a Steam-Backup of my 1.9.4-installation files just in case. And after the CC-update marathon started, rollback files to get any version back to 1.9.4 were offered everywhere as well (note that they were just rollback files (exe's, and esm and a few ba2's), not a cracked full version and would only work on a proper Steam install).

 

MarkusTay might have made a mistake by trying to just run an old executable with a newer install without reversing all the other files changed by the newer updates as well, causing him to get that weird crashing hybrid version he is describing. That doesn't automatically make him a game pirate however.

 

@MartinTay. The first update after 1.9.4 changed more than just Fallout4.exe, other files affected were Fallout4.esm, Fallout4-Interface.ba2, Fallout4-Materials.ba2, Fallout4-Meshes.ba2, and Fallout4-Startup.ba2. So just changing the executable might make your game less stable.

 

And I am not sure I understood you correctly. You first were fully updated and the game ran fine for two days, but then suddenly crashed, after which you tried the old executable and you keep crashing after exactly 150 seconds (not mater where you are/go?). That sounds more like a corrupt safe-game, or a mod clash to me.

[Undeadbob666]

Sorry its the only explanation I can give, seeing as I've used 200+ mods in my games and never had these issues as listed. Not saying I don't have issues, but none as drastic. I also attached my comment to anyone person but this whole thread in general. Anyone experiencing this many issues with the game must be doing something they are not supposed too to the game files to have it act as such, I mean as a base this game CTD if you fart wrong so its very touchy.

 

Its ok though, I guess I'm a troll since I disagree.

Edited December 10, 2018 by Undeadbob666

[aufisch]

Hmm, you DO realize, that pirated copies do not update automatically and therefore only legit gamers get the honor and enjoyment of having to deal with broken installs or mods every so often? ;)

So your "you have more problems than me, therefore your game must be pirated" theory doesn't really hold up anyway.

 

And on another note; disagreeing with someone, and just plain out accusing everyone in a thread of being a pirate are two completely different things.

[DiodeLadder]

 

 

 

Why don't you just hold off on updating your FO4 installation for a few days until the new version of F4SE gets released?

 

That's not entirely it. Fallout 1.9.4 was as stable as a Bethesda game could get. All later updates didn't really fix or improve anything (hence the missing update logs from Bethesda) but many people reported graphic glitches, increasing instability (even without F4SE and depended mods), massive slow downs and so on. I know of several people who have had nothing but trouble since the cash-grabbing "it's for Creation Club only" updates began.

 

I myself had trouble getting the 1.10.45 - 1.10.55 series (can't remember the exact numbering there) to work, and I experienced frequent crashes combined with really weird chromatic graphic glitches at the time. This was with F4SE and related mods fully updated (I always hold off updating until all my mods are updated as well), but with no new mods installed. Luckily for me, the recent updates seem to be more compatible with my system than the "5-er"Series. Others however were not that lucky and are still struggling.

 

 

aufisch, can you elaborate on the graphic glitches you are speaking of? I have had the pixelated rainbow colored texture glitches on mid distance objects since - maybe before summer, and I am seeing more of them with the latest update.

 

I didn't want to start pointing my finger at something unless I had some sort of clue as to what was to blame, but I might have something finally :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The door is a red painted wood door. This location is from my own WIP mod, and everything is placed in CK (no precomb/previs in the area yet - not finalized). Anyway, if you pay close attention to the first one, you can see a half white circle on on the top side of the door, and the lower part shows a black circle. On the second one, it appears that the institute door/wall texture is being pulled partially. The door will turn into the normal red painted one when the camera approaches. The only difference between the 2 screenshots are the camera distances. This kind of stuff happens in vanilla locations, too, of course, and seems more frequent than used to.

 

I don't know how the texture data caching works, but looks to me like they have a bug in how the game stores/reads the textures into/from memory, like addresses are screwed up and wrong ones are getting read. Maybe more knowledgeable people can tell me what's going on? The first screenshot was taken about 700 units away from the door, while the distance to the second one is about 400 units.

 

I use about 50 or so simple mods and zero F4SE based mods here, BTW.

 

Other than that, the way FO4 loads objects maybe a little more abrupt than used to be, as I've noticed that my vanilla settlements with moderate amount of build materials would freeze the game for a few seconds now when approaching the areas - instead of just a minor frame rate drops like how it was before. (No scrap everything mod here, so the optimization in the area is intact.)

 

Do those things sound like the issues you were trying to touch on in your post?

Edited December 14, 2018 by DiodeLadder

[aufisch]

@DiodeLadder. The graphic glitches I got at the time were entirely different, I'm afraid. For me they happened when I was running around and suddenly everything within a certain distance from me would turn blue, then red, green, then blue again. It was as if my character was on LSD.

 

Your bug is one of several that would suddenly happen to people after Fallout 4 updates (although it was mostly pre CC). I have seen it being reported elsewhere and I think it was linked to MipMaps. I believe the recommendation was to download Bilago's Configuration Launcher: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/102/? and to set the MipMaps to 1. Other players reported that using optimized textures have helped them with this bug.

[Panter22]

Hello all need a small help so i have been following the steps from the info https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10654?tab=posts now i did all the things in order to run the translation but for some unknown reason game still asking for a new version did a missed something ???

 

i apologize for the bad english

[aufisch]

I believe you need to download and install the def_ui.dll from the DEF Mods discord server (https://discord.gg/Vd5D6vv) as well (it's under beta_files). However, I haven't tried that myself yet as I am still holding off installing the newest update.