The Debate Forum. Closed, or Unmoderated.

[Aurielius]

I don't think this section should be moderated the same as other sections. A different form of discussion takes place here than in other sections, and that should be considered.

Would you mind outlining what this different form would be? I agree that the debates forum is dissimilar from all the other forums but by and large when yellow ink is inserted to halt irrelevant personal attacks, I see that as justifiable. One thing that could be slightly different is the rigid insistence that diversions from the main topic be somewhat more relaxed, in the years I have debated here I have yet to see a debate stay on track throughout the entire debate, which is not necessarily such a bad thing. Some side roads have been far more interesting and lively than the original topic and have been shut down regardless of how civilly they have been conducted. I sometimes wonder if that is simply a convenient excuse to cover other motivations. For the record I am not challenging the authority of the moderators (necessary disclaimer given the rules as they currently stand).

Edited July 17, 2012 by Aurielius

[Syco21]

I definitely agree with you for the most part. My main issue is with the rigid demand for staying on topic. In a mod comment thread, this is usually very understandable. In a debate this can be counterproductive. Not to mention that if you have to create a new thread for every minor tangent, the debate section will become crowded and chaotic very quickly. Again, counterproductive.

[imperistan]

Going off on a tangent is fine in a debate to a point, but not to the point that it overtakes the original point of the topic.

[Syco21]

Going off on a tangent is fine in a debate to a point, but not to the point that it overtakes the original point of the topic.

Give me a few examples of some threads that you feel have been thoroughly derailed as to require being locked/split.

[Nintii]

Would you mind outlining what this different form would be? I agree that the debates forum is dissimilar from all the other forums but by and large when yellow ink is inserted to halt irrelevant personal attacks, I see that as justifiable. One thing that could be slightly different is the rigid insistence that diversions from the main topic be somewhat more relaxed, in the years I have debated here I have yet to see a debate stay on track throughout the entire debate, which is not necessarily such a bad thing. Some side roads have been far more interesting and lively than the original topic and have been shut down regardless of how civilly they have been conducted. I sometimes wonder if that is simply a convenient excuse to cover other motivations. For the record I am not challenging the authority of the moderators (necessary disclaimer given the rules as they currently stand).

 

Well if ever there is a decision to nominate a President or whatever other title could be dreamt up for someone on the Debates Forum then I'd definitely vote for Aurelius ... never has a greater

truth been spoken here.

 

Having said that, many a time people don't read each other's posts ... they simply make up some clueless response based on the way they currently feel ... you can actually see the tangent ... it's unreal.

I have chosen not to respond to most of them.

Though my life viewpoints tend to lean very heavily to one side of the "Us and Them" attitude that prevails here, I am a firecely independent ... and so get bashed from both sides ... just one of those

things.

I do not believe in "co-dependancy" I believe in respect ... and if people here respect each other despite their obvious differences then there wouldn't even have been a need for this specific topic.

 

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

George Orwell

 

But that does not mean that you can say what you want to ... liberty does not mean unrestraint, there is a difference ... unfortunately, some are blind to that fact, and so they trip over the law here

and get banned.

So, does the Debates Forum need to be Moderated ?

Yes, because some choose to ignore the fact that freedom's middle name is respect.

[HeyYou]

Would you mind outlining what this different form would be? I agree that the debates forum is dissimilar from all the other forums but by and large when yellow ink is inserted to halt irrelevant personal attacks, I see that as justifiable. One thing that could be slightly different is the rigid insistence that diversions from the main topic be somewhat more relaxed, in the years I have debated here I have yet to see a debate stay on track throughout the entire debate, which is not necessarily such a bad thing. Some side roads have been far more interesting and lively than the original topic and have been shut down regardless of how civilly they have been conducted. I sometimes wonder if that is simply a convenient excuse to cover other motivations. For the record I am not challenging the authority of the moderators (necessary disclaimer given the rules as they currently stand).

 

Well if ever there is a decision to nominate a President or whatever other title could be dreamt up for someone on the Debates Forum then I'd definitely vote for Aurelius ... never has a greater

truth been spoken here.

 

Having said that, many a time people don't read each other's posts ... they simply make up some clueless response based on the way they currently feel ... you can actually see the tangent ... it's unreal.

I have chosen not to respond to most of them.

Though my life viewpoints tend to lean very heavily to one side of the "Us and Them" attitude that prevails here, I am a firecely independent ... and so get bashed from both sides ... just one of those

things.

I do not believe in "co-dependancy" I believe in respect ... and if people here respect each other despite their obvious differences then there wouldn't even have been a need for this specific topic.

 

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

George Orwell

 

But that does not mean that you can say what you want to ... liberty does not mean unrestraint, there is a difference ... unfortunately, some are blind to that fact, and so they trip over the law here

and get banned.

So, does the Debates Forum need to be Moderated ?

Yes, because some choose to ignore the fact that freedom's middle name is respect.

 

I think a lot of what folks are viewing as "the issues" here, are simply because of the diverse nature of the posters in this forum. We have folks from all over the world, ranging in age from 13 to 60+. Not only do we have nationality differences, we also have generational differences. Certainly adds some spice to life, don't it. :D

[Deleted472477User]

I stopped opening topics for debate because I wasn't enjoying the process much anymore. I'll still join in, but I take more care ion thinking out and writing my answers than I used to. Plus real life was smacking me with the sucky stick and it was causing a lot of stress for me.

[HeyYou]

I stopped opening topics for debate because I wasn't enjoying the process much anymore. I'll still join in, but I take more care ion thinking out and writing my answers than I used to. Plus real life was smacking me with the sucky stick and it was causing a lot of stress for me.

 

Yeah, I hate it when that happens......

 

Here's hoping that your life is improving. :D

[mizdarby]

On some sites, there are 'Flaming' forums, where there is no moderation to any great extent, but rules are set out to inform posters, that entering the debates on those forums will leave them open to flaming attacks, often personal and generally heated. This of course is a games site, and there is no need for such hostile environments to exist. So I generally agree with, a debate forum with moderation attached.

[Nintii]

Apologies something weird happened. Edited September 12, 2012 by Nintii