RyanV1 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Having an issue with gog version w/mods. Experiencing ctd, usually when theres lots of activity (vats, explosions etc) but sometimes at random points. Usually get about an hour or so before crash. Current mod list: Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmStreetLights.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmCALIBR.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmProject Beauty.esmEVE.esmxCALIBR.esmFCOMaster.esmiHUD.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS.esmRiversideCafe.esmImaginatorFO3.esp2Perks Per Level.espxCALIBRammo_override.espSSN715SubmarinePlayerHouse.espClassic Fallout Weapons BETA.espRealistic Interior Lighting.espDanWessonPPC357(CALIBR).espVault 106 Fixes.espDevils Mistress Unique.espConelrad 640-1240.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espStreetLights - Wasteland.espFlora Overhaul.espFO3_WRP.espGNR Enhanced.espDree Perks.esp1nivDogmeatOverhaul.espFO3 NPCs Travel.espUndergroundHideout.espUndergroundHideoutExpanded.espFemaleEnclaveSoldiers - Broken Steel.espMegaton Walkway.espTheFingerOfGod.espCrowdedCities_v2.espCrowdedCities_v2_lessNPCs.espRealistic Interior Lighting - PL.espRH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.espRivet City Merchants With Point Lookout.espRH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.espRiversideCafe.espRH_EVE_Bridge.espRH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.espsunglassescollection.espStop Insulting Me Outcasts.espUndergroundHideout_CRAD_Addon.esp99+2.espDIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.espDragonskin Tactical Outfit.espDragonskinBonusPack.espCALIBRxMerchant.espBerettaTwoTone AH.espDIM TYPE3 conversions.espDistributed Necklaces and Chains - Females Only Complete.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espFemaleEnclaveSoldiers.espMax Level 99.espRealistic Interior Lighting - OA.espRealistic Interior Lighting - BS.espRH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.espRH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.espSlam M16 Pack.espSlam M4 Pack.espSlam Sniper Package.espDALCO Fixes for Underground Hideout.esp1PipboyPDA.espK2Clothes_BrownLeather03.espZL-ACR.espmerge.esp Total active plugins: 79Total plugins: 79Attempted fixes: -Ran through LOOT -Merge patched -attempted to load FOSE through 3gb enabler but was unable to get a successful return (error states Fallout3.exe was not copied over) -Hard reinstalls of all mods Computer specs: -I7-7700 -GTX 1070 -Windows 10 -16gb Ram Pls help. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Stop using a merged patch, that's actually the worst thing you can do, you should be using a Bashed patch from Wrye instead ( explained exactly why in my guide - linked below ) Check out my guide and do ALL of steps 1-3 in the order I have them, and Appendix 1 ( if needed - IE any orange mods in Wrye ) also make sure you read the quotes from Alternity and sharlikran ( 2 of the major contributors to Wrye bash ) https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2247384-fallout-3-beginners-guide-to-modding/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanV1 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 Stop using a merged patch, that's actually the worst thing you can do, you should be using a Bashed patch from Wrye instead ( explained exactly why in my guide - linked below ) Check out my guide and do ALL of steps 1-3 in the order I have them, and Appendix 1 ( if needed - IE any orange mods in Wrye ) also make sure you read the quotes from Alternity and sharlikran ( 2 of the major contributors to Wrye bash ) https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2247384-fallout-3-beginners-guide-to-modding/Thanks, this seems to have done the trick, although I still had to do a few more hard re-installs to get it all to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 yw :) glad i could help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) On the subject of your attempted fixes. You cannot load anything with the 3GB enabler. What that does, is it makes changes to the Fallout3.exe to have the game use more than 2GB. In order to patch FOSE (which is unnecessary), you would have to rename FOSE.exe to Fallout3.exe and then run the enabler. Then rename the patched Fallout3.exe to FOSE.exe and return it to the game folder. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using a merged patch. I have been using one for years with a little over 100 mods. You should never use LOOT to sort your load order. It has never sorted Fallout3 mods correctly. I have always used B.O.S.S. and then never changed my load order. Also, StreetLights - Wasteland.esp should be disabled and deleted. It has been incorporated into the latest StreetLights and is no longer necessary. The best thing you can do is not have the game installed in "Program Files". Edited January 3, 2019 by M48A5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 You should never use LOOT to sort your load order. It has never sorted Fallout3 mods correctly. This actually doesn't matter anymore and I'll explain why. The only reason users would use Loot is for the cleaning advice and anything else not involving load order. Once you run Wrye Flash, it now has a built in optimization tool that uses the correct load order. This change to Wrye Flash occurred about 1.5 years ago and I don't mention it because most people don't even notice it. By following my own guide Fallout 3 is the most stable Fallout game i play. More stable by far than FONV or FO4 ( and yes i know that would depend on what mods a person uses ). Even if a person used BOSS instead, Wrye Flash would still optimize the load order when you run it. My guide is designed as a system of checks and balances and if followed has worked every time with only ONE exception since i originally wrote the Skyrim version back in October 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanV1 Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 UPDATE: Still experience random crashes. I'm not sure whats going on, I've ran it through Wyre a bunch of times, removed some messier mods, but this garbage still craps out after an hour or so. Updated mod list:Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmStreetLights.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmiHUD.esmCALIBR.esmxCALIBR.esmProject Beauty.esmEVE.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS.esmImaginatorFO3.espFCOMaster.esmRiversideCafe.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espCALIBRxMerchant.espRH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.espRH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.espRH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.espGNR Enhanced.espConelrad 640-1240.espDree Perks.espFemaleEnclaveSoldiers - Broken Steel.espClassic Fallout Weapons BETA.espCrowdedCities_v2.espCrowdedCities_v2_lessNPCs.esp99+2.espRivet City Merchants With Point Lookout.espBerettaTwoTone AH.espDanWessonPPC357(CALIBR).espDevils Mistress Unique.espTheFingerOfGod.espZL-ACR.espDIM TYPE3 conversions.espDIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.espDragonskin Tactical Outfit.espDragonskinBonusPack.espK2Clothes_BrownLeather03.espsunglassescollection.esp1PipboyPDA.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espRealistic Interior Lighting.espRealistic Interior Lighting - BS.espRealistic Interior Lighting - OA.espRealistic Interior Lighting - PL.espxCALIBRammo_override.esp2Perks Per Level.espSSN715SubmarinePlayerHouse.espVault 106 Fixes.espFlora Overhaul.espFO3_WRP.esp1nivDogmeatOverhaul.espFO3 NPCs Travel.espRiversideCafe.espDistributed Necklaces and Chains - Females Only Complete.espFemaleEnclaveSoldiers.espMax Level 99.espSlam M16 Pack.espSlam M4 Pack.espSlam Sniper Package.espBashed Patch, 0.esp Total active plugins: 72Total plugins: 73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 ok one thing i just noticed is this file Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm should be loaded after the very last DLC, it specifically states on the description page that no other MOD should load before it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanV1 Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 ok one thing i just noticed is this file Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm should be loaded after the very last DLC, it specifically states on the description page that no other MOD should load before itFixed that, still having issues. Getting sad :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 did you ever delete any mods that were used on that save? if so then that is your problem because you are NEVER supposed to unless starting a new character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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