nofear88 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 How advanced in comparison to us, where they exactly? Excluding the magical aspect of Dwemer technological development, they had a great sheer amount of engineering, plumbing, mechanics and pressures. What I am supprised that although they where great smiths and metal workers, they have yet to show any experiementation of fusing metals together to create alloys or any such material. The unknown metal simply known as Dwemer metal is clearly an indictation of experiementing with metals as no other race can identify its components and metals found in it. There are many kinds of metals found throughout Tamriel and I would think that atleast some individuals in the past froma nywhere in the Empire or provences would get together, especially smiths and alchemists to see if they can create stronger, lighter materials including armor to provide better defense as well as mobility for thier respective armies or if they can see the monatery potential behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathWarrior Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 My guess would be that most of their technology is based on technology of the Industrial Revolution (1750-1850) with a steampunk touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enatiomorph Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Er, what do you think steel is? It's an alloy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutine Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 My guess would be that most of their technology is based on technology of the Industrial Revolution (1750-1850) with a steampunk touch. I would love to see some old Dwemer frigates if that estimate is correct. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetradite Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Yeah the Dwemer tech is steampunk, with a magical element (the soul gems as power source). This makes pretty much anything you can imagine theoretically possible, although some modern things I doubt that they could match the microscopic scale at which we can engineer things, e.g: The mission with the dwemer repository, lexicon cube etc (discerning the transmundane?) even gives you what is essentially a Dwemer computer (or technological manner of data storage if not actually a computer, with a portable storage device. Maybe that's where they all went.... into The Matrix http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_emoticons/dark/thumbsup.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relativelybest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It's pretty hard to make a comparison between Dwemer technology and our own, because of magical stuff like soul gems. They were clearly industrialized, though, and knew about robotics an (apparently) remote transmission. In some ways, their technology suggests achievements we haven't reached yet. What I am supprised that although they where great smiths and metal workers, they have yet to show any experiementation of fusing metals together to create alloys or any such material. The unknown metal simply known as Dwemer metal is clearly an indictation of experiementing with metals as no other race can identify its components and metals found in it. There are many kinds of metals found throughout Tamriel and I would think that atleast some individuals in the past froma nywhere in the Empire or provences would get together, especially smiths and alchemists to see if they can create stronger, lighter materials including armor to provide better defense as well as mobility for thier respective armies or if they can see the monatery potential behind it. First of all, Dwemer Metal is clearly an alloy. otherwise it would be possible to find it naturally. The fact that nobody knows how to make it just means that Dwemer metalurgy was way more advanced that anything the other races have. Please note that "alloy" doesn't have to mean one metal mixed with another - carbon isn't a metal but mixing it with iron creates steel. Depending on the exact percentage of carbon, you get steels with different hardness and strenght properties. Adding stuff like chromium and silicon and tungsten to the steel gives you even more varied properties. If the other races can't figure out a way to replicate this metal, it's probably because it contains elements they simply don't have the technology to isolate, maybe even elements they haven't actually identified yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownGlaze Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Well, if you'd like to know how, I'd suggest reading this. It's basically an overview of the Dwemer, and I haven't read it, but you'll get some pretty good info. I got some from an article on Morrowind and Cyrodiil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The problem is, you can't exclude the magical components from the Dwemer technology. Their entire steam-base is built around magic, as is their metalurgy. Dwemer metal is supposedly fursed with raw magicka, condensed by the Tonal Archaetects. It is capable of being submerged in lava without a problem, indicating it is (when properly treated) a match for all but a few modern alloys. Based purely on the presence of steam driven devices (and ignoring how that steam is generatred) then you could put their technology anywhere within the last 2000 years. We know the Romans extensivly used steam, mostly for heating, but the use of steam is nothing new. We also know that complex gyroscopic devices have been in use for at least 3000 years, particularly in astrolabs, with some (such as the Antikytheria Mechanism) bordering on clockwork computers. Part of the problem in the comparison is that we tend to view things like indoor plumbing, combustion engines and steam-power as relativly new things, but most of them have been around for hundreds, if not thousands of years. The only 'new' creations run on electricity, which of course the Dwemer had (but it was magically sourced). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy1123 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Trying not to post a spoiler, I'll post an ingame conversation. There is a mage in the game by the name of Septimus Signus. He is a bit touched upstairs. He is a brilliant (or was) mage. He rambles on about dwarven lore and history. He talks about the brillian minds of the dwemmer. How he is but a child in their realm of knowledge. There is an argonian woman by the name of From-Deepest-Fathoms. She, like septimus, has an item you need for quests. listen to them talk. They both are a bit out there due to having SOME timy bit of dwemmer knowledge. If just a small fragment of their brilliance drives people insane, it is not even comprehendible what level of knowledge they possesed. I would imagine the same sort of thing for the Alyiad's of Elder Scrolls 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhncanson Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) The Dwemer couldv ruled tamriel, if they massed produced centaurions. Their knowledge is vast, their habitat(dwemer ruins) is a testament to that. No other race built such huge places with elevator machinery(the one with the handle in the middle). Their automations are impressive. They are well-organized, Although they are the best in the technological field, they are also masters in the art of magic. Look what they did to those falmers. I don't believe those scholars who said, living underground rendered the falmers blind. I myself have been underground most of my time in skyrim, ive probably spent half the game time in dwarven ruins.. and i dont find those places too dark to render someone blind. They mustv done someting to keep those snow elves down there up until now.. that leads to my theory that they have planned this for a long time. They knew what would happen to them, so they left those automatons and falmer to guard their belongings. The mysterious disappearance of the dwarvens is just the beginning.. i hope im right.. it would be exciting to know why they have vanished.. were they also lost in time? like what happened to alduin or were they too obsessed with knowledge that the gods have considered them a threat to the balance of nature? leading again to the lost in time situation.. this is although centered on the elder scrolls.. We all don't know.. only bethesda knows.. I hope they make a very interesting back-story to those dwarves. Edited January 13, 2013 by jhncanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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