vonBennett Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I am wondering what the proper etiquette is for uploading an expansion on a mod originally created by another person? Basically I have done a major expansion on a 'player home' mod created by someone who uploaded the original mod two years ago. Basically, I expanded the area, furnished the place and turned it into a functional player settlement. I have tried contacting the original author several times to get their official permission but I am getting no response back; not sure if they are around any longer. Besides properly citing the original author in my mod description, is there any additional requirements needed? Is it against proper etiquette to post an upgraded mod without written permission from the original author? I don't want to ruffle any feathers....want to do the right thing. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undeadbob666 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Its not just against etiquette, your facing a potential ban from the nexus for uploading an authors mod. So your going to need to try your best to get in touch with the author of the mod, or at the least (if you could not find the author) put up on your mod page how you modified anothers mod and a link to that mods page and how you will take the mod down if asked by the original author. I wish you luck in anycase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonBennett Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 Its not just against etiquette, your facing a potential ban from the nexus for uploading an authors mod. So your going to need to try your best to get in touch with the author of the mod, or at the least (if you could not find the author) put up on your mod page how you modified anothers mod and a link to that mods page and how you will take the mod down if asked by the original author. I wish you luck in anycase.Thank you for the response and the advice. Like I said, I have every intention of properly citing the original author. However, if doing so is not good enough, then I will just not upload my version at all. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGreatWeight Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 If you don't have/can't get explicit permission from the original author to use some or all of their mod, then uploading a mod that contains any assets from that original mod will see yours removed fairly swiftly from the Nexus, & at the very least you'll earn yourself a formal warning from the moderators; at worst you could face being banned. Merely giving credit to the original author will not hold any weight, and it'll still be seen as a violation of the Nexus terms of service.If you're not able to recreate your work as a completely stand-alone add-on for the original mod, I wouldn't advise you to upload it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitchfinder Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Have you looked into other ways to contact the author? Do they link to any other sites or means of contact in their bio on the forums? Is their username one that can be reasonably searched on google for alternate accounts on other sites? Does their mod show up on other sites where they might still be active? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baloney8sammich Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Have you read all of the documentation to be sure the author didn't "disclaim" the requirement to be asked for permission in one way or another? For example, my interpretation of this: Let me know if you modify it, and give me some credit if you post a modificationis that you're only required to notify the author, not wait for a response to the notification. I haven't confirmed this interpretation is in line with Nexus rules/etiquette, but I expect someone will point out if it's not. Edited January 14, 2019 by baloney8sammich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonBennett Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Have you read all of the documentation to be sure the author didn't "disclaim" the requirement to be asked for permission in one way or another? For example, my interpretation of this:Let me know if you modify it, and give me some credit if you post a modificationis that you're only required to notify the author, not wait for a response to the notification. I haven't confirmed this interpretation is in line with Nexus rules/etiquette, but I expect someone will point out if it's not. Nope. He doesn't give implied permission in his description section on the mod page. I didn't see it in other places like the comment section. I will just not do anything unless I get written permission. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonBennett Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Have you looked into other ways to contact the author? Do they link to any other sites or means of contact in their bio on the forums? Is their username one that can be reasonably searched on google for alternate accounts on other sites? Does their mod show up on other sites where they might still be active?I sent the message on the 31st of December. It appears that he was active somewhere on the 5th of January. My guess is that he could have read me message but just didn't respond? I really just expanded on his mod for my own persona; use but wanted to share since I have been downloading other rpeople's work all this time. Having said that. I will not do anything unless I get written permission from the original mod author. I want to follow proper protocol. Thank you for responding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonBennett Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 If you don't have/can't get explicit permission from the original author to use some or all of their mod, then uploading a mod that contains any assets from that original mod will see yours removed fairly swiftly from the Nexus, & at the very least you'll earn yourself a formal warning from the moderators; at worst you could face being banned. Merely giving credit to the original author will not hold any weight, and it'll still be seen as a violation of the Nexus terms of service.If you're not able to recreate your work as a completely stand-alone add-on for the original mod, I wouldn't advise you to upload it.I understand and will not be uploading anything unless I get written permission or if I am the original creator. I have built my own settlement mod from scratch and may upload that one instead. Just need to finalize a few things. Anyway, thanks for the response and the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baloney8sammich Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Does a mod that contains just an .esp which modifies another mod (and therefore requires you to download and install the other mod and all its resources) require the permission of the other mod's author? By default I mean, in lieu of any disclaimer by the other mod's author? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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