Modded FNV crashes too much

[LeviBakker]

Hello,

 

I am out of ideas how to get my game more stable.

Right now I can play for about 15 minutes before it freezes or just exits the game out of nowhere.

When it freezes I can't even go to task manager so I am forced to sign out of windows.

 

I use FOMM - 4gb patch - nvse - JIP nvse - NVAC - stutter remover - CASM with MCM - NV's own build in auto purge.

 

I used LOOT for the load order but editted it myself after following guides and seeing LOOT doesn't do the job 100%.

I am no expert so I hope someone can shine light on the problem I have.

 

I hope someone can help me, thanks in advance.

 

Load order:

 

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

SomeguySeries.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

NVInteriors_Core.esm

NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

More Perks.esm

More Perks for Dead Money.esm

More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm

More Traits.esm

More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

More Perks for Companions.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

NevadaSkies.esm

D.E.I.M.O.S..esm

DesertersFortress.esm

domecity.esm

RockwellPursuit.esm

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

NaturalWaters.esp

Clarity.esp

Burning Campfire.esp

Bullet Impact Increased LOD.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

Gore Dismember and Explode Edits.esp

Weapon Retexture Project.esp

Faster Terminals.esp

GSK_CloseComputerTerminalHotkey.esp

Immersive Minigames.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

FPSWeaponWheel.esp

Weapon Stat Viewer.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

CASM with MCM.esp

Conelrad 640-1240.esp

CCSP2_5d.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

More Perks for Companions Update.esp

More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp

More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

More Perks Update.esp

More Traits Update.esp

MorePerksFixed.esp

NewVegasBounties.esp

NewVegasBountiesII.esp

TheInheritance.esp

NewVegasBountiesIII.esp

UMI - Useful Misc Items.esp

populatedcasino.esp

Blackrow.esp

New Vegas Trade Center.esp

Uncut Wasteland.esp

lexx_brahmin-betsy.esp

outsidebets.esp

NewVegasUncut 123457 Merged.esp

DesertersFortressUpdate_V1.1_DemiLore.esp

The house.esp

RockwellPursuit2014Update.esp

AutumnLeaves.esp

Factions Reloaded Legion.esp

DLC Weapon Integration.esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

WMX-HonestHearts.esp

WMX-DeadMoney.esp

WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

WMX-ModernWeapons.esp

WMX-EVE-AllDLC.esp

Project Nevada - WMX.esp

Project Nevada - EVE All DLC.esp

AWOP-WMX-EVE AllDLC.esp

[JD] AWOP Voices.esp

CNR_Beta.esp

NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp

NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp

NevadaSkies - Brighter Nights.esp

Total active plugins: 96

Total plugins: 96

Edited January 19, 2019 by LeviBakker

[HadToRegister]

Right off the bat I see you didn't follow the instruction for WMX by making a merged patch.
I also don't see any WMX / A World of Pain patch

This is why it's important to read Mod Description pages.

 

 

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6. INSTALLATION/UNINSTALLATION
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Please follow these instructions exactly. If you have not performed a step described here, or you have performed extra steps that are *not* described here, please don't ask me for help if something isn't working for you. I will not know what you have done, and therefore will likely not be able to help you.

***Automatic Merged Patch Creation***

- This is strongly recommended as standard practice when using mods for FNV (especially a lot of mods at the same time), as it may improve compatibility between mods you may be using (including - but not limited to - WMX). If using more than one add-on for WMX at the same time (this includes compatibility patches), creating an automatic merged patch is even MORE important (assuming you want everything to work correctly).

- Download FNVEdit (http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/34703) to create the 'merged patch'. This should be done after you have installed and activated all the mods you wish to play the game with (and have configured your load order using a mod manager tool). This is how to do it:

- Run FNVEdit, and a list of all the plugins in your Steam\steamapps\common\fallout new vegas\Data\ directory will come up, listed as per your load order. By default, the plugins you have activated in the New Vegas Launcher or in a mod manager tool will have ticks next to them. This is what you want, so just click 'OK'.

- Once FNVEdit has finished loading, right-click somewhere in the panel on the left that lists your activated plugins, and select 'Create Merged Patch' from the context menu. (Note that this may be under the 'Other' sub-menu, depending on which version of FNVEdit you have.)

- Enter a name for the patch into the window that pops up (any name you like), and click on 'OK'.

- Once FNVEdit has finished generating the patch (it creates a new .esp file with the name you entered), which should only take a few seconds, close FNVEdit. Click 'OK' on the window that pops up to save the Merged Patch that was generated.

- Finally, make sure the Merged Patch esp is loading after all your other plugins (which it should already be, by default), and activate it using the New Vegas Launcher or a mod manager tool.

- If you ever uninstall plugins, update existing plugins, or install new ones, deactivate and delete the Merged Patch, and then follow these instructions again to create a new one.

[LeviBakker]

Thanks for the reply.

 

Yeah you are right, I guess when you are modding for a while and just want to start playing you tend to miss some crucial parts.

 

This wouldn't require me to start a new char right? cause I will only add esp's.

 

Thanks for clearing that up!

[LeviBakker]

I could play 20-25 minutes tops now.

It gradually starts lagging with every body I loot or building I enter.

More and more untill it freezes completely.

 

Are you sure I was missing AWOP-WMX patch?

Because I had already this one:

AWOP-WMX-EVE AllDLC.esp

Now I also added this one

WMX-AWOP-Overhaul.esp

Hope they don't interfere with each other

This is the loadorder now:

 

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

SomeguySeries.esm

ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

NVInteriors_Core.esm

NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

More Perks.esm

More Perks for Dead Money.esm

More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm

More Traits.esm

More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

More Perks for Companions.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

NevadaSkies.esm

D.E.I.M.O.S..esm

DesertersFortress.esm

domecity.esm

RockwellPursuit.esm

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

NaturalWaters.esp

Clarity.esp

Burning Campfire.esp

Bullet Impact Increased LOD.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

Gore Dismember and Explode Edits.esp

Weapon Retexture Project.esp

Faster Terminals.esp

GSK_CloseComputerTerminalHotkey.esp

Immersive Minigames.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

FPSWeaponWheel.esp

Weapon Stat Viewer.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

CASM with MCM.esp

Conelrad 640-1240.esp

CCSP2_5d.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

More Perks for Companions Update.esp

More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp

More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

More Perks Update.esp

More Traits Update.esp

MorePerksFixed.esp

NewVegasBounties.esp

NewVegasBountiesII.esp

TheInheritance.esp

NewVegasBountiesIII.esp

UMI - Useful Misc Items.esp

populatedcasino.esp

Blackrow.esp

New Vegas Trade Center.esp

Uncut Wasteland.esp

lexx_brahmin-betsy.esp

outsidebets.esp

NewVegasUncut 123457 Merged.esp

DesertersFortressUpdate_V1.1_DemiLore.esp

The house.esp

RockwellPursuit2014Update.esp

AutumnLeaves.esp

Factions Reloaded Legion.esp

DLC Weapon Integration.esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

WMX-HonestHearts.esp

WMX-DeadMoney.esp

WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

WMX-ModernWeapons.esp

WMX-EVE-AllDLC.esp

Project Nevada - WMX.esp

Project Nevada - EVE All DLC.esp

AWOP-WMX-EVE AllDLC.esp

WMX-AWOP-Overhaul.esp

[JD] AWOP Voices.esp

CNR_Beta.esp

NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp

NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp

NevadaSkies - Brighter Nights.esp

WMX-PATCH.esp

Total active plugins: 98

Total plugins: 98

Oh yeah, I called my merged patch "WMX-PATCH"

because I thought I had to do specific things for wmx.

Edited January 19, 2019 by LeviBakker

[Deleted53139156User]

Use More Perks merged V4 from NVEC instead of the individual files, no reason not to.

 

Why are using the individual WMX DLC .esps? There are merged versions for all dlc users for a reason.

 

You have no merged or bash patch to resolve all your other conflicts you likely have though probably not your crash source.

 

I don't personally recommend CASM anymore I use simple saves your choice there.

 

If you don't have NVSR set up right you will crash eventually especially if you are trying to use it on Win10 out the box.

 

And if your not using enboost you can try it win no enb effects and see if it helps fps. Make sure you lock your frame rate to </= 60 fps. You can also use NVSE heap replacer if you aren't already instead of NVSR's.

 

Check your NVAC log.

[dubiousintent]

Please see the 'Solutions to "Crash To Desktop" (CTD) problems' section; specifically the 'Issue: CTD after 10-20 minutes of play (post-Win10 2017 FCU)' and 'Issue: CTD without warning, "Out of Memory error", or stops responding after the Main Menu' entries in that section in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.

 

-Dubious-

[LeviBakker]

Thanks for the replies

 

I am going to do the full NVEC installation.

Deleted my seperate uncut content and new vegas bounties I and II.

 

The NVSR heapreplace set to 1.

I saw that the max fps in nvsr was 0. so now set to 60 and minimum 15.

 

I was also in doubt if CASM really helped or made things worse, but I will give CASM another chance since I had a lot of other things not in order.

 

Will let you guys know how it turns out

[dubiousintent]

There are several places where it is possible to try to cap the FPS, such as the game INI files and NVSR. Only use one, or the conflicts will drive you nuts. See the 'Solutions to Performance problems' section of the "Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide.

 

-Dubious-

[LeviBakker]

I checked it, it should all be good. Only NVSR is manager of fps.

 

My NVEC patch installer says AWOP is unusable with my load order.

It asked for the extra AWOP-deadmoney and says patches between WMX and AWOP are not needed.

So got AWOP deadmoney and deactivated wmx-awop overhaul and AWOP-WMX-EVEDLC patch.

I also refreshed archive validation

 

But keeps giving me the same error. I can still continue but it warns me that the game will be unstable.

any ideas about that?

 

 

 

EDIT:

Found the problem although not sure how to solve it.

The NVEC AWOP patch looks for AWOPdeadmoney.esp

But in the latest version of AWOP it is a master file. AWOPdeadmoney.esm

 

This is where I found it, but I do not understand what she did:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/FalloutMods/comments/3h6v95/fnvhelp_mod_looks_for_esp_master_but_theres_only/

Edited January 20, 2019 by LeviBakker

[dubiousintent]

"AWOP" v6.0 is dated 28 Oct 2018. "A World of Pain (AWOP) - Revisions" (a collection of AWOP patches but none related to DM) was last updated 31 Oct 2018.

 

NVEC was last updated in 2014. Seems a little unreasonable to expect "bug fix" patch files to work 4 years (and however many versions of the files being patched) later. NVEC is known to have "bug-fixes" which conflict with YUP which is much more current (20 Dec 2018) and is still actively maintained (11 Jan 2019). My suggestion (as you found the FNVEdit instructions too obscure) is to not use the NVEC patch for AWOP. Really doubt AWOP v6 needs a patch that old anyway.

 

-Dubious-