CaptainRC Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) If you're looking to get all the Words of Power, there's one in Snow Veil Sanctum that you can get only during the Thieves Guild questline. The doors to it are locked and no key exists, and there's a barrier over the door that can only be opened by the Thieves Guildmaster. Using the Creation Kit, I did create a key, and it works. However, the barrier remains and there's currently no way to open it, though somehow, the player can still get through, which is kind of a dealbreaker for me. This is why I placed a mod request, earlier. Edited July 24, 2012 by CaptainRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fms1 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 You could possibly have problems with A Cornered Rat part of the MQ, if not done before all this, but idk if it will break it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayFrosty05 Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 You could possibly have problems with A Cornered Rat part of the MQ, if not done before all this, but idk if it will break it or not. That has been one concern I have had.....though I have been down the Ratway before, long before talking to Delphine at all and have found Esbern active down there, so I get the feeling he may be all right and not be effected, as he appears to sandbox in his hideout from the start of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayFrosty05 Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 If you're looking to get all the Words of Power, there's one in Snow Veil Sanctum that you can get only during the Thieves Guild questline. The doors to it are locked and no key exists, and there's a barrier over the door that can only be opened by the Thieves Guildmaster. Using the Creation Kit, I did create a key, and it works. However, the barrier remains and there's currently no way to open it, though somehow, the player can still get through, which is kind of a dealbreaker for me. This is why I placed a mod request, earlier. Now that kind of Mod would have me very interested....same with Saarthal....I play a Warrior, not a mage, he doesn't join the Mages College (found a work around in the main quest...The college can be by-passed if you just go straight to 'Transmuting the Transmundane' Daedric quest)....still unable to access Saarthal of course though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fms1 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 That has been one concern I have had.....though I have been down the Ratway before, long before talking to Delphine at all and have found Esbern active down there, so I get the feeling he may be all right and not be effected, as he appears to sandbox in his hideout from the start of the game. What I was referring to specifically is where you ask TG members about Esbern, idk if it's required or just an option though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayFrosty05 Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 That has been one concern I have had.....though I have been down the Ratway before, long before talking to Delphine at all and have found Esbern active down there, so I get the feeling he may be all right and not be effected, as he appears to sandbox in his hideout from the start of the game. What I was referring to specifically is where you ask TG members about Esbern, idk if it's required or just an option though. The Barmaid in the Bee and Barb is an alternate route for information on Esbern...she directs you to the Ratways if you bypass Brynolf...and I'm certain the Barkeep in the Ragged Flagon is just an optional extra...It seems to be appearing most likely that the only quests destroying the TG would break are those related directly to the TG and the DB....can always but just try and see what happens now.... :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFBryan18 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Last time I played I simply went straight to Esbern without talking to Brynolf, and there's no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayFrosty05 Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Well...his finally done it...my Dovahkin has wiped the Thieves Guild off the face of Riften....all of them except Brynjolf that is, I am still waiting for the opportunity to kill him, his always surrounded by bystanders.... :( ....but will eventually work it out....Just wanted to say THANK YOU so much for the help...has been very appreciated.... :biggrin: ....Was a good run too, I waited until my Dovahkins stealth was well and truly up before he attempted it...that's a lot of enemy to take on at once in a cramped area....but he managed to stay hidden for much of it and by the time he was found in the Ragged Flagon and the Cistern there weren't many of them left....Thanks again, that was very satisfying.... :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The7Sins Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 If your wanting to kill Brynolf leave Vekel the Man alive. He can be bribed to tell you where Esbern is in the main quest as an alternative to going through Brynolf and having to join the Guild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sajuukkhar9000 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) If your wanting to kill Brynolf leave Vekel the Man alive. He can be bribed to tell you where Esbern is in the main quest as an alternative to going through Brynolf and having to join the Guild.Or you can just pay attention to the game and know, from the like 6 times it tells you beforehand, that Esbern is in the ratway and just go explore it and find him yourself, totally bypassing the thieves guild completely. Edited August 15, 2012 by sajuukkhar9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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