What to do with Anna Holt?

[groupoffriends]

As you all know, you meet Anna Holt in Raven Rock during your escape, and find she has sided completely with the enclave.

 

She has betrayed everything that Dr Li and your father were working for. Your father died rather than give them any information, and she goes and gives them all the information they could possibly want! So why is it negative karma to kill her? Surely it should be positive karma to apply a bullet to her head.

 

Should we just walk away and let her continue helping the enclave???

 

Are there any future ramifications in the game for killing her, or for not killing her?

 

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

[Squeecky]

I'm a... Friendly person, but I shot her once in the knee, leaving her to either die there or flee - as I knew Raven Rock was going to be a goner either way. ((In my gameplay I made the Outcasts massive and lead them to restore the wasteland.. Abit of fantasy but still ;P )) so I'd have blown it up, assuming she died there. She does deserve it.

[JkKILER]

I just completed another run through of the main quest today and Anna said to me that she joined the enclave becuase "They are truly trying to help people" (Not sure of exact words, but something like that)

 

However gullible she is, she still used the main character's father as a puppet so she could join the Enclave. So i killed her. Then Resurrected, then killed, A few more times until i was satisfied.

[devilrejected]

i always kill her regardless of what character i have.

[Talwyn224]

i always kill her regardless of what character i have.

 

yep, me too

[Nintii]

I let her live ... she's a woman who made a choice to survive, I admire that ... who says that the choice was an easy one to make ... what if she had kids ... if this was all in real life of course.

[DavidYokosukaJapan]

For my characters it depends on their karma. A good character will leave her be. An evil charcter will kill her anyway just for the hell of it.

A guy who's angry about his recently deceased father beind dead and looking to blame someone will probably kill her or hit her in the jaw before leaving.

[Schreiter]

... So why is it negative karma to kill her? Surely it should be positive karma to apply a bullet to her head. ...

Either it's an oversight by the designers, or they don't see her as an evil character. I think it was simply the latter. I don't see her as evil. Let me make some points in her favor:

 

• She couldn't escape from the Jefferson Memorial with you,
  
• She was under the power of The Enclave,
  
• Her colleague was shot because James wouldn't cooperate, so
  
• She knows her captors are willing to use any means necessary, Therefore,
  
• Her decision was coerced.
  
• Even if she could escape Raven Rock,
  
• - She's one woman far from home,
  
• - She'd be a fugitive with no nearby civilized places to beg for kindness from that wouldn't soon be controlled by The Enclave,
  
• - She has no supplies or funds to make a journey, and we can assume stockpiling to be problematic in her new home,
  
• - She doesn't even have a face-obscuring Enclave Scientist Outfit, which seems telling,
  
• - She'd have to travel in a land where danger is almost guaranteed,
  
• - Even if you helped her escape, she could still easily die.
  

So what's the use in her condemning The Enclave with all her heart and mind for its evils—evils she might not even know the extent of—when she knows that she can't leave and expect any good to come of it? She might as well psych herself into thinking her captivity is a good thing, like all too many of us do in our lives. It makes no sense to hold people morally responsible for what they do under coercion. The shopkeeper who pays off the mafia works for them in a tangible way, but he's not an accomplice to their misdeeds.

Edited November 11, 2012 by Schreiter

[sandman5]

... So why is it negative karma to kill her? Surely it should be positive karma to apply a bullet to her head. ...

Either it's an oversight by the designers, or they don't see her as an evil character. I think it was simply the latter. I don't see her as evil. Let me make some points in her favor:

 

• She couldn't escape from the Jefferson Memorial with you,
  
• She was under the power of The Enclave,
  
• Her colleague was shot because James wouldn't cooperate, so
  
• She knows her captors are willing to use any means necessary, Therefore,
  
• Her decision was coerced.
  
• Even if she could escape Raven Rock,
  
• - She's one woman far from home,
  
• - She'd be a fugitive with no nearby civilized places to beg for kindness from that wouldn't soon be controlled by The Enclave,
  
• - She has no supplies or funds to make a journey, and we can assume stockpiling to be problematic in her new home,
  
• - She doesn't even have a face-obscuring Enclave Scientist Outfit, which seems telling,
  
• - She'd have to travel in a land where danger is almost guaranteed,
  
• - Even if you helped her escape, she could still easily die.
  

So what's the use in her condemning The Enclave with all her heart and mind for its evils—evils she might not even know the extent of—when she knows that she can't leave and expect any good to come of it? She might as well psych herself into thinking her captivity is a good thing, like all too many of us do in our lives. It makes no sense to hold people morally responsible for what they do under coercion. The shopkeeper who pays off the mafia works for them in a tangible way, but he's not an accomplice to their misdeeds.

 

well she dont sound very coerced to me, she tells the LW that the tech is so much better than what Dr. Li had & so on.

 

"She couldn't escape from the Jefferson Memorial with you" and why not, Dr, Li & the 3 dudes did?

 

"Her colleague was shot because James wouldn't cooperate" how did she know this? when you speak to one of the guys in the escape tunnel, you find he had no clue about dear old dad or anything else that went on in that room. so how could she?

 

granted she might have been a little intimidated at first, but by the time the LW got there, she was quite happy to be there. she evens tells the LW to leave. if she wanted to get out of there, she would ask the LW for help like so many others do.

 

with the "slaves stick around" mod, i enslave her, she dont run to PF like the others, but you will find her in the slave pen after raven rock is destroyed. where she begs to be released, so i can tell her, she is a slave deal with it. lol

[Valahul]

I say Kill her and then throw her corpse to the Deathclaws. :D