Game wont start

[ZaneFHarrel]

Hello, as said in the title my game simply won't start, only reason I can think of is too many plugins but I'v had more conflicting and larger load orders before so I don't know. When I try to launch the game via skse I will get the initial black screen in the left corner for a split second as usual then nothing will happen, when I launch through steam or directly the launcher will appear, I'll click play and again nothing will happen. All mods were installed using Vortex and my load order is sorted by LOOT, any help is appreciated

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

254 FE 0 AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl

6 6 BSAssets.esm

7 7 BSHeartland.esm

8 8 BS_DLC_patch.esp

9 9 Campfire.esm

10 a RaceCompatibility.esm

11 b Shadowmark.esp

12 c SkyUI_SE.esp

13 d YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp

14 e iNeed.esp

15 f iNeed - Extended.esp

16 10 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

17 11 Undeath.esp

18 12 RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp

19 13 Cutting Room Floor.esp

20 14 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

21 15 Joy of Perspective.esp

22 16 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp

23 17 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

24 18 Holds.esp

25 19 DBDawnstar Sanctuary SSE.esp

26 1a OpulentThievesGuild.esp

27 1b Man Those Borders!.esp

28 1c ancient watchtowers.esp

29 1d RREnhanced.esp

30 1e Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

31 1f Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp

32 20 Akaviri Ruins of Savirien-Chorak.esp

33 21 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

34 22 OwnCivilWar.esp

35 23 WayshrinesIFT.esp

36 24 Dwarfsphere.esp

37 25 Immersive Encounters.esp

38 26 Cloaks.esp

39 27 Raven Rock.esp

40 28 Inigo.esp

41 29 Artifacts.esp

42 2a DigitigradeKhajiit.esp

43 2b msa.esp

44 2c Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

45 2d Better Claws And Gauntlets.esp

46 2e Oblivion Gates Remade.esp

47 2f Hunterborn.esp

48 30 VariousGuardReplacer.esp

49 31 Immersive Patrols II.esp

50 32 WZOblivionArtifacts.esp

51 33 Skyhaven_modified.esp

52 34 Bloodworm.esp

53 35 ReachMageIS.esp

54 36 SpellResearch.esp

55 37 Frostfall.esp

56 38 50 More Perk Points.esp

57 39 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp

58 3a DwarvenFate.esp

59 3b Vivid WeathersSE.esp

60 3c IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp

61 3d Tools of Kagrenac.esp

62 3e notice board.esp

63 3f ExtraBlades.esp

64 40 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

65 41 HoldBorderBanners.esp

66 42 Immersive Weapons.esp

67 43 Arma_Thalmoris.esp

68 44 SeaElfSubracesSE.esp

69 45 DwemerSpectresLegendary.esp

70 46 DustAdept.esp

71 47 Sneak Tools.esp

72 48 PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp

73 49 ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp

74 4a Aethernautics.esp

75 4b AHZmoreHUD.esp

76 4c AK- Cowl of the Grey Fox.esp

77 4d BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

78 4e beltfastenedquivers.esp

79 4f Better Claws And Gauntlets - Immersive Armors.esp

80 50 Better Daedric Artefacts.esp

81 51 Better Shrouded Armour - SSE.esp

82 52 BetterStaffofMagnus.esp

83 53 Oblivion Gates in Cities.esp

84 54 bgSkjoldur.esp

85 55 BonemoldWeapons.esp

86 56 Bound Armory Extravaganza.esp

87 57 BoundArmor.esp

88 58 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

89 59 Classic Morag Tong armor.esp

90 5a Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

91 5b Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

92 5c Dwemer Certified.esp

93 5d DestructibleDisplayCases.esp

94 5e DTNecromancerCamp.esp

95 5f DwarvenFateArmor.esp

96 60 DwarvenSorceryArmor.esp

97 61 Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

98 62 FireBurns.esp

99 63 Fist Of Pain.esp

100 64 Fizzle.esp

101 65 FNIS.esp

102 66 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

103 67 Imperial Armor Redistribution.esp

104 68 FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp

105 69 Frostfall_Seasonal_Temps_patch.esp

106 6a HB-WL-CraftableLanternOilPatch.esp

107 6b HornsAreForever.esp

108 6c Jop - BrumaPatch.esp

109 6d JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp

110 6e MA-DiversifiedDivines.esp

111 6f MagicArmorVisuals.esp

112 70 mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - The Notice Board.esp

113 71 Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp

114 72 MountsInventory.esp

115 73 NecromancerAmulet.esp

116 74 Nordic Adventurer's Armor.esp

117 75 Oblivion Gates Remade - 1st Person Messages.esp

254 FE 1 Oblivion Gates Remade - Alternate Textures.esp

118 76 Oblivion Gates Remade - Map Markers.esp

119 77 OblivionJailSystem.esp

120 78 Potions.esp

121 79 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp

122 7a RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

123 7b RaceMenu.esp

124 7c RaceMenuPlugin.esp

125 7d RealDaedricArtifacts_Ghostrunner.esp

126 7e Ring of Khajiiti.esp

127 7f Scaling Bound Weapons.esp

128 80 ScrimshawExpanded.esp

129 81 Shields of the Holds.esp

130 82 SilencedPrisoners.esp

131 83 SkoomaBusiness.esp

132 84 skoomaeffect.esp

133 85 Skooma SE.esp

134 86 Skoombag - Make Some Skooma!.esp

135 87 Sleeved Guards.esp

136 88 Sleeved Imperials.esp

137 89 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

138 8a Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

139 8b StavesAtback.esp

140 8c TES5SE NPCs Travel.esp

254 FE 2 USSEP Compatibility Patch - JvM's Patch.esp

254 FE 3 USSEP Compatibility Patch Fixed.esp

141 8d TGJewelrySmelterSSE.esp

142 8e Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp

143 8f UIL & Path of the Revenant Patch.esp

144 90 UndeadFX.esp

145 91 Unique Uniques.esp

146 92 Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp

147 93 Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp

254 FE 4 WayshrinesIFTBSBruma.esp

148 94 WetandCold.esp

149 95 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

150 96 MLU.esp

151 97 MLU - Immersive Armors.esp

254 FE 5 MLU - Unique Uniques.esp

152 98 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

153 99 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp

154 9a Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp

155 9b Dwemer Certifed - Ordinator Patch.esp

156 9c Elemental_Staffs.esp

157 9d Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp

158 9e Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp

159 9f Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

160 a0 CFTO.esp

161 a1 Convenient Horses.esp

162 a2 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

254 FE 6 CH Bruma Patch.esp

163 a3 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

164 a4 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

165 a5 YOT - Andromeda.esp

166 a6 YOT - Apocalypse.esp

167 a7 YOT - Convenient Horses.esp

168 a8 YOT - Cutting Room Floor.esp

169 a9 YOT - Frostfall Module.esp

170 aa YOT - Hunterborn.esp

171 ab YOT - Imperious.esp

172 ac YOT - iNeed.esp

173 ad YOT - Moonlight Tales Overhaul.esp

174 ae YOT - Ordinator.esp

175 af YOT - Sacrosanct.esp

176 b0 YOT - SWIFT.esp

177 b1 YOT - Thunderchild.esp

178 b2 YOT - Wearable Lanterns.esp

179 b3 YOT - Wet and Cold.esp

180 b4 YOT - Wildcat.esp

[Deleted58783396User]

Their is 2 situations where the game will immediatly crash upon load (As in the game will crash before it even reaches the Main Menu) and they are as Follows:

 

Note: Main Menu as in (Continue, New Game, Mods, etc etc)

 

 

1. CTD before main menu = Missing Master File Requirement. (This is the most likely cause for this particular Crash to Desktop)

 

one or more of your mods require another mod, that is either missing or disabled. check LOOT and see if it mentions which mod(s) is missing master files.

 

i have not used Vortex or even seen it in action, so i am not familiar with it, but with NMM a mod that requires another mod that is missing will be in RED, you will then either need to download the required mod, or delete/disable the mod that is causing the ctd, due to missing require master file (to fix the CTD upon load).

 

 

2. You might be using a SKSE Plugin that is for an older Version of SKSE, this will cause the game to Immediatly crash upon load (Not always unlike the above, but it can happen) if you used SKSE to launch the game, you will need to update your SKSE plugin(s) to match the latest version of SKSE (SKSE will actually tell you which Plugin is Older then the current version)

 

I Strongly Recommend Wrye Bash (if Vortex does not provide the required information) as Wrye Bash can also tell you which mod is missing a required mod, and will also disable the mod that requires a missing mod, thus preventing the immediate ctd if this is the case. again as said above, Vortex should let you know which mod is missing a mod, and likewise tell you which mod is required, but if it does not, then Wrye Bash or Nexus Mod manager is the way to Go.

 

Wrye Bash is also a Mod Manager, and can do stuff the others cannot, the extremely useful and must have Bash Patch, and it can also Merge Mods, granting you the ability to have effectively an insane amount of mods, very risky however if you have an excessive amount of mods, but it is very possible to run skyrim with over 500 - 1000 active mods, if you know exactly what you are doing and fully understand exactly what the Load Order is and How It Works.

 

Note: the actual Physical ESP/ESM mod limit is 255 Active Plugins (that does not Include Merged Mods or ESL files) so you still have plenty of space to add more mods before you reach the hard limit.

 

Note: Using Wrye Bash now, would already save half of your load order, as all of them patches you have would be merged and disabled, so that is literally half of your load order merged, meaning you can then replace them patches with actual mods, as they would be merged and activated in a single plugin. :wink:

[ZaneFHarrel]

This is just the strangest thing, after double checking for no missing master files and that skse and it's plugins were in order I still can't get the game to start. I'll keep searching the forums for any information. Thanks for the help