StayFrosty05 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I finished the DG MQ and now I miss those vampire attacks. I liked traveling to the towns and hoping that an attack would occur. It was usually chaos trying to single out the vampires, and it was very satisfying when you successfully killed them without a loss to the townspeople. I may go back to a save right before I finished it just so this feature comes back. I enjoyed the encounters myself...but not the named NPC losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whismerhill Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I'm not gonna add to the argument as to whether vampire attacks are a game killer or notthough I think there is room for tweaking, if someone had the desire to do so two globalvars seem relatively insteresting for that :DLC1RadiantDisguisedVampireLordChance 25andDLC1VQMinLevelVampireAttacks 8 use "show" and "set" as usual a bit off topic I know but still since this is a single player game one may do as he or she wishes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyson277 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 i played all the way through as a dawnguard member without any problems,yet since ive started a new game as a vampire ive had crash after crash,fixed a few problems only to hit even more just an hour ago i had to roll back 7 hours of saves because the saves after a certain quest are fecked lol,how can bethesda release such a buggy DLC its crazy the best game in many years and they are gonna feckin destroy it ,ive now installed the unofficial dawnguard patch thats supposed to fix a lot of bugs but im not holding my breath .what really gets me is ive not had the same number of problems on the 360 version,is it the creation kit /mods thats the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnerman69 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) If you don't wont certain players to die from the random vampire attacks, your only option is to set your favorite NPC's essential, there ID ref numbers can be found at the wiki's and I posted my list I used several times on the forums here, you just got to know how to use bat batch files in console command Update I updated my guard lists to include a non essential list for when I wont to feed as a wolf the essential list for guards setessential 2D794 1setessential 2D795 1setessential 874FB 1setessential 874FC 1setessential 874FD 1setessential 874FE 1setessential 8757D 1setessential 10908D 1setessential EC6E7 1setessential F684E 1setessential 10107B 1setessential 103962 1setessential 105CA3 1setessential 105CA9 1setessential 210CE 1setessential 36F05 1setessential 537F2 1setessential 558FD 1setessential 5CF3F 1setessential 87137 1setessential 8713A 1setessential 8B319 1setessential 9E47F 1setessential AC9CA 1setessential FDA37 1setessential FDA39 1setessential FDA3B 1setessential FDA3D 1setessential 604F4 1setessential 604FE 1setessential 604FF 1setessential 60500 1setessential 109AAC 1setessential 300A4 1setessential 458F4 1setessential 45882 1setessential 45899 1setessential 4589C 1setessential 4589D 1setessential 4589E 1setessential 4589F 1setessential 458A0 1setessential 458A1 1setessential 458A2 1setessential 458A3 1setessential 458A4 1setessential 458A5 1setessential 458A6 1setessential 458A7 1setessential 458A8 1setessential 458A9 1setessential 458AB 1setessential 458AD 1setessential 458AE 1setessential 458AF 1setessential 458B0 1setessential 458B1 1setessential 458B2 1setessential 458B3 1setessential 458B5 1setessential 458B7 1setessential 458B8 1setessential 7494C 1setessential A8CA4 1setessential A8CA6 1setessential E66F6 1setessential E66F7 1setessential E66F8 1setessential F1AA6 1setessential F62F0 1setessential 10D156 1setessential 10D157 1setessential 10DE20 1setessential 2E1F0 1setessential 6B340 1setessential 853C4 1setessential A9621 1setessential B0E8A 1setessential B3E4F 1setessential B4C4F 1setessential B4C55 1setessential BED96 1setessential F684E 1setessential FF7E3 1setessential 1007F5 1setessential 1007FA 1setessential 1020A4 1setessential 10C068 1setessential 267EE 1setessential 274AB 1setessential 274AC 1setessential 274AD 1setessential 39FD7 1setessential 46EFC 1setessential 590DE 1setessential 63F35 1setessential D2ACC 1setessential D314C 1setessential D314F 1setessential D3154 1setessential D3159 1setessential D315D 1setessential D3BCB 1setessential 99CE5 1setessential 9CB5B 1setessential A27CC 1setessential A4A3B 1setessential ABE18 1setessential B799D 1setessential BC071 1setessential BD05C 1setessential D0FFA 1setessential D1985 1setessential D2AC9 1setessential D3152 1setessential D315C 1setessential D3BCA 1setessential D7779 1setessential D8C50 1setessential D8C53 1setessential D8F09 1setessential 3EF2C 1setessential 45C31 1setessential 55A2B 1setessential D3C2A 1setessential FCE80 1setessential FCE89 1setessential FCE8A 1setessential FCE8B 1setessential FCE8C 1setessential 24B63 1setessential FCEEB 1setessential FCEEC 1setessential FCEED 1 non essential guard list setessential 2D794 0setessential 2D795 0setessential 874FB 0setessential 874FC 0setessential 874FD 0setessential 874FE 0setessential 8757D 0setessential 10908D 0setessential EC6E7 0setessential F684E 0setessential 10107B 0setessential 103962 0setessential 105CA3 0setessential 105CA9 0setessential 210CE 0setessential 36F05 0setessential 537F2 0setessential 558FD 0setessential 5CF3F 0setessential 87137 0setessential 8713A 0setessential 8B319 0setessential 9E47F 0setessential AC9CA 0setessential FDA37 0setessential FDA39 0setessential FDA3B 0setessential FDA3D 0setessential 604F4 0setessential 604FE 0setessential 604FF 0setessential 60500 0setessential 109AAC 0setessential 300A4 0setessential 458F4 0setessential 45882 0setessential 45899 0setessential 4589C 0setessential 4589D 0setessential 4589E 0setessential 4589F 0setessential 458A0 0setessential 458A1 0setessential 458A2 0setessential 458A3 0setessential 458A4 0setessential 458A5 0setessential 458A6 0setessential 458A7 0setessential 458A8 0setessential 458A9 0setessential 458AB 0setessential 458AD 0setessential 458AE 0setessential 458AF 0setessential 458B0 0setessential 458B1 0setessential 458B2 0setessential 458B3 0setessential 458B5 0setessential 458B7 0setessential 458B8 0setessential 7494C 0setessential A8CA4 0setessential A8CA6 0setessential E66F6 0setessential E66F7 0setessential E66F8 0setessential F1AA6 0setessential F62F0 0setessential 10D156 0setessential 10D157 0setessential 10DE20 0setessential 2E1F0 0setessential 6B340 0setessential 853C4 0setessential A9621 0setessential B0E8A 0setessential B3E4F 0setessential B4C4F 0setessential B4C55 0setessential BED96 0setessential F684E 0setessential FF7E3 0setessential 1007F5 0setessential 1007FA 0setessential 1020A4 0setessential 10C068 0setessential 267EE 0setessential 274AB 0setessential 274AC 0setessential 274AD 0setessential 39FD7 0setessential 46EFC 0setessential 590DE 0setessential 63F35 0setessential D2ACC 0setessential D314C 0setessential D314F 0setessential D3154 0setessential D3159 0setessential D315D 0setessential D3BCB 0setessential 99CE5 0setessential 9CB5B 0setessential A27CC 0setessential A4A3B 0setessential ABE18 0setessential B799D 0setessential BC071 0setessential BD05C 0setessential D0FFA 0setessential D1985 0setessential D2AC9 0setessential D3152 0setessential D315C 0setessential D3BCA 0setessential D7779 0setessential D8C50 0setessential D8C53 0setessential D8F09 0setessential 3EF2C 0setessential 45C31 0setessential 55A2B 0setessential D3C2A 0setessential FCE80 0setessential FCE89 0setessential FCE8A 0setessential FCE8B 0setessential FCE8C 0setessential 24B63 0setessential FCEEB 0setessential FCEEC 0setessential FCEED 0 caution this list use at your own risk, makes field commanders both sides non essential, some field commanders give quests,I left out commanders in jarl buildings setessential 000205C8 0setessential 00084539 0setessential 0008454F 0setessential 0008454E 0setessential 000844D1 0setessential 000844B2 0 Edited August 25, 2012 by sinnerman69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stemin Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 i played all the way through as a dawnguard member without any problems,yet since ive started a new game as a vampire ive had crash after crash,fixed a few problems only to hit even more just an hour ago i had to roll back 7 hours of saves because the saves after a certain quest are fecked lol,how can bethesda release such a buggy DLC its crazy the best game in many years and they are gonna feckin destroy it ,ive now installed the unofficial dawnguard patch thats supposed to fix a lot of bugs but im not holding my breath .what really gets me is ive not had the same number of problems on the 360 version,is it the creation kit /mods thats the problem Dawnguard isn't that buggy. Your mods are causing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whismerhill Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) just got an attack at lvl 10 on a small settlement (thought the vampire attacks were only for the main towns but apparently not. at first I thought OMG a "master" vampire I'm gonna get ...hu what ? he's dead ? hu ok ....he & his cohorts were quickly dispatched by me (of very little help) and them that was on master difficulty so the guards are probably stronger than other difficulties, no other mods that impact guards & "monsters" Edited August 27, 2012 by whismerhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileyEvan Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I find it more of a nuisance then anything. I stepped out of the apothecary in Whiterun only to turn and find Vamps trashing the entrance. By the time I got over there, the smithing chick was dead. Had to reload and run over to wipe them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettM Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 It would certainly help keep a lot of citizens alive if the game took the time of day into account when spawning NPCs as you enter a city. It doesn't make sense to me that you can enter a city at, say, 3:00 am and find all of the usual NPCs wandering around, including children. If you were to enter the city during the day and just wait until 3:00 am, they'd all be safely indoors except for guards and drunks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnyfizz Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Dawnguard isn't that buggy. Your mods are causing it. Whilst no-one denys that mods can cause problems, it would be wrong to say that Dawnguard isn't all that buggy, and even Bethesda have admitted that it has known issues in their reply to my support request. I am fortunate enough to have two PC's, one of which is a high spec gaming laptop, so after having such issues on the version on my desktop PC I did a clean mod free install on my laptop and tried dawnguard with a vanilla race character. I STILL had that same issue in the Vamp Lord Tutorial where I couldn't land when Harkon says to, no matter how hard I mashed the CTRL key. Even Bethesda agree with me that is a game breaker. It would certainly help keep a lot of citizens alive if the game took the time of day into account when spawning NPCs as you enter a city. It doesn't make sense to me that you can enter a city at, say, 3:00 am and find all of the usual NPCs wandering around, including children. If you were to enter the city during the day and just wait until 3:00 am, they'd all be safely indoors except for guards and drunks. You make a good point there, some tinkering with the AI packages might be in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinnerman69 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) I updated my lists for merchants to include non-essential, the reason I had to make a non essential merchant list was because Nazir [dark brotherhood] had a contract out for Anoriath in whiterun and he was in my merchant essential list, so I edit in the 0 and made a non essential merchant list, I named my non essential bat text file nonmerch, name yours whatever is easier to remember What I mean by editing in a 0 was that I back spaced out the 1 and added a zero because using the text search features and telling it to replace the 1 with 0 would have replaced all 1 with 0 corrupting the list, so it took 30 minutes to edit in a 0 and make the non essential list My merchant list include blacksmiths at both imperial and stormclark camps essential merchant list setessential 0001413E 1setessential 00014140 1setessential 0001412A 1setessential 0001411F 1setessential 00014123 1setessential 00014148 1setessential 00014142 1setessential 0001413A 1setessential 00014146 1setessential 0001B076 1setessential 0001B079 1setessential 00013662 1setessential 0001D4B7 1setessential 00013652 1setessential 00013650 1setessential 00013655 1setessential 0003A19A 1setessential 00013255 1setessential 00013260 1setessential 00013261 1setessential 00013266 1setessential 0001326F 1setessential 00013273 1setessential 00013275 1setessential 00013284 1setessential 0001328C 1setessential 0001329A 1setessential 000132AA 1setessential 00019A28 1setessential 000135E9 1setessential 000135ED 1setessential 000135EF 1setessential 00013614 1setessential 00013621 1setessential 0001361D 1setessential 0001361E 1setessential 00013627 1setessential 0001338B 1setessential 0001338E 1setessential 000133A3 1setessential 00013395 1setessential 0001339A 1setessential 000284AC 1setessential 000133A2 1setessential 000133A5 1setessential 00055A5E 1setessential 00013B7C 1setessential 00013B77 1setessential 00013B7A 1setessential 00019953 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1setessential 0001C187 1setessential 0001C183 1setessential 0001C184 1setessential 0001E7D5 1setessential 0001C198 1setessential 0001C19C 1setessential 0001C197 1setessential 0001C199 1setessential 0001C19E 1setessential 0001C193 1setessential 0001B1D6 1setessential 0001B1DA 1setessential 0001B1D1 1setessential 0001B1D5 1setessential 0001B1DB 1setessential 0001B1D0 1setessential 00016973 1setessential 00016ACE 1setessential 00073FBE 1setessential 000B5D5A 1setessential 0001414B 1setessential 0001414C 1setessential 0001412D 1setessential 00013283 1setessential 000132AE 1setessential 000132AB 1setessential 0001328E 1setessential 0001361A 1setessential 0001361F 1setessential 0001406B 1setessential 00013398 1setessential 0001402D 1setessential 000133A1 1setessential 00013B76 1setessential 0003F21E 1setessential 0009B7A6 1setessential 00013669 1setessential 0009B7AB 1setessential 0009B7AA 1setessential 00013B9F 1 non essential merchant list setessential 0001413E 0setessential 00014140 0setessential 0001412A 0setessential 0001411F 0setessential 00014123 0setessential 00014148 0setessential 00014142 0setessential 0001413A 0setessential 00014146 0setessential 0001B076 0setessential 0001B079 0setessential 00013662 0setessential 0001D4B7 0setessential 00013652 0setessential 00013650 0setessential 00013655 0setessential 0003A19A 0setessential 00013255 0setessential 00013260 0setessential 00013261 0setessential 00013266 0setessential 0001326F 0setessential 00013273 0setessential 00013275 0setessential 00013284 0setessential 0001328C 0setessential 0001329A 0setessential 000132AA 0setessential 00019A28 0setessential 000135E9 0setessential 000135ED 0setessential 000135EF 0setessential 00013614 0setessential 00013621 0setessential 0001361D 0setessential 0001361E 0setessential 00013627 0setessential 0001338B 0setessential 0001338E 0setessential 000133A3 0setessential 00013395 0setessential 0001339A 0setessential 000284AC 0setessential 000133A2 0setessential 000133A5 0setessential 00055A5E 0setessential 00013B7C 0setessential 00013B77 0setessential 00013B7A 0setessential 00019953 0setessential 00019957 0setessential 00029DAD 0setessential 0001334C 0setessential 0001334D 0setessential 0001334F 0setessential 00013380 0setessential 00013357 0setessential 00013360 0setessential 00019DF2 0setessential 00013354 0setessential 0001336D 0setessential 000136C5 0setessential 00029DAE 0setessential 0001337E 0setessential 00013365 0setessential 00013373 0setessential 0001B072 0setessential 00013369 0setessential 00029DAA 0setessential 000B8827 0setessential 00029DAF 0setessential 00019DEF 0setessential 00019E18 0setessential 000136C3 0setessential 000136BB 0setessential 00013475 0setessential 00013479 0setessential 0001347A 0setessential 0001347B 0setessential 00013BB9 0setessential 00013B97 0setessential 00013BA4 0setessential 00013BA1 0setessential 00013B99 0setessential 00013B9E 0setessential 00013B9D 0setessential 00013BBB 0setessential 00013B9C 0setessential 00013BA2 0setessential 00013BA3 0setessential 0002BA8E 0setessential 0002BA8C 0setessential 000136B6 0setessential 0001C187 0setessential 0001C183 0setessential 0001C184 0setessential 0001E7D5 0setessential 0001C198 0setessential 0001C19C 0setessential 0001C197 0setessential 0001C199 0setessential 0001C19E 0setessential 0001C193 0setessential 0001B1D6 0setessential 0001B1DA 0setessential 0001B1D1 0setessential 0001B1D5 0setessential 0001B1DB 0setessential 0001B1D0 0setessential 00016973 0setessential 00016ACE 0setessential 00073FBE 0setessential 000B5D5A 0setessential 0001414B 0setessential 0001414C 0setessential 0001412D 0setessential 00013283 0setessential 000132AE 0setessential 000132AB 0setessential 0001328E 0setessential 0001361A 0setessential 0001361F 0setessential 0001406B 0setessential 00013398 0setessential 0001402D 0setessential 000133A1 0setessential 00013B76 0setessential 0003F21E 0setessential 0009B7A6 0setessential 00013669 0setessential 0009B7AB 0setessential 0009B7AA 0setessential 00013B9F 0 Edited August 29, 2012 by sinnerman69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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