ENB on 4k FPS results?

[mikulash]

Heyo,

 

Just curious about what results and presets are you using and getting on 2160p?

 

My game is moderately modded, with 117 mods, 80% which are just 2k/4k textures, Re-engaged ENB on

 

Performance preset (50-60fps)

Good quality preset (35-45fps)

Best quality preset (25-35fps)

 

Lower fps is usually in forested areas, as 3d trees eat up the fps like cookies, no enb its constant 60 fps from what I've seen so far.

 

My pc specs are:

 

CPU i7 7700k

GPU RTX 2080ti

Ram 16bg DDR4

SSD

 

The mod list im using now is just a test one, will be going from zero again pretty soon when i have time to rebuild to the one I want. I'm curious as to what can be expected in terms of frame rate with going bananas in quality textures, enbs, settings.

[Deleted58783396User]

cant really comment on a 4k monitor, but the game itself has limitations, regardless of how powerful your hardware is, sooner or later you will hit a bottleneck with the game itself.

 

but with that said, i have my game fully in 2k + 4k textures and some 8k Textures. and everything seems fine.

 

the only thing that hits performance on my end, is JK Skyrim. and that is due to Skyrim's Engine Limitations. nothing to do with mod setup or hardware.

 

these perfromance impacts are from viewing said towns + villiages from a distance, however actually entering the towns + villages, runs perfectly.

 

skyrim still has that issue where viewing certain things from a certain distance tanks framerate.

 

another thing that hits framerate hard, is Grass and Tree Overhaul mods. for some reason, using said mods just annihaltes performace.

 

with that said, i am using all of Mathy279 mods, which runs perfectly fine, its only when i use mods like Verdant that destroys performance, unknown why. again i would imagine this to be an Engine Limitation.

[mikulash]

cant really comment on a 4k monitor, but the game itself has limitations, regardless of how powerful your hardware is, sooner or later you will hit a bottleneck with the game itself.

 

but with that said, i have my game fully in 2k + 4k textures and some 8k Textures. and everything seems fine.

 

the only thing that hits performance on my end, is JK Skyrim. and that is due to Skyrim's Engine Limitations. nothing to do with mod setup or hardware.

 

these perfromance impacts are from viewing said towns + villiages from a distance, however actually entering the towns + villages, runs perfectly.

 

skyrim still has that issue where viewing certain things from a certain distance tanks framerate.

 

another thing that hits framerate hard, is Grass and Tree Overhaul mods. for some reason, using said mods just annihaltes performace.

 

with that said, i am using all of Mathy279 mods, which runs perfectly fine, its only when i use mods like Verdant that destroys performance, unknown why. again i would imagine this to be an Engine Limitation.

 

Thanks for the reply,

 

I figured this as well, for example my old 980ti vs my new 2080ti had a very small difference in some areas and i figured its probably a game limit, still the extra vram comes in nicely^^

 

Are there fixes for these issues, like the SSE engine fix mod? Are there any other you could recommend to make the game more smooth?

 

I'm also using Mathy279's mods, Luxor too, those guys mods are legendary...

[COMBATFUN]

Important is the unofficial ELFX SMIM Patch, if you have those mods installed. In the skyrimprefs.ini, set the value iShadowMapResolution=2048. You won't see a big difference, but gain some fps in the forrested areas.

[COMBATFUN]

Well to get playable FPS rates with ENB in 4k, i suggest to avoid following mods:

 

- ELFX, Realistic Lightning Overhaul

- JKs Skyrim

- Grass mods (Verdant Grasses, SFO, ...)

- Tree Mods (SFO, 3D Trees, Skyrim/Simply Bigger Trees, HQ Treebark with Lush Option, ....)

- ENB Particle Light mods (ENB Light, Rudy stuff...)

 

Just install SMIM with some other texture mods (e.g. noble skyrim, realistic water two, majestic mountains, forgotten retex) + your weather mod and ENB of choice.

I suggest to install NVT ENB in the medium quality version and then to select medium details in the graphic options of Skyrim SE. Also deactivate TAA.

That way you should be able to play with ~ 45 FPS.

 

Everything else is just useful to create some 4k YouTube showcase Videos with 30+ FPS. Not really playable/enjoyable for gameplay, even not with a RTX 2080 Ti.

To play in 4k with ~ 45 FPS with above mentioned performance demanding mods in ultra settings (ENB and Game), you will need at least a RTX 3080 Ti OC, if not a RTX 4080 Ti.

Edited April 1, 2019 by COMBATFUN

[jones177]

Hi

 

I have been playing Skyrim SE at 4k since it came out.

 

At its heart it is a CPU game. To maintain 60fps with ENB plus Reshade it takes my 2080 ti overclocked plus my i7 8086k with 5ghz on all cores. With that the mods mentioned are not a problem. Those mods where a problem when I used an i7 6700k with a GTX 1080 ti.

 

I/O is a big deal with this game as well. I just bought a 2tb 970 EVO. I got it for this game and Fallout 4. My vanilla games are fine with SATA SSDs but my modded bethesda games are not. After using it I know that SATA SSDs are not up to running old saves on a heavily modded game.

My old saves are crazy hard to run though. Three hundred draugr in a dungeon cell is not uncommon and 60 plus followers using MHIYH in the Whiterun area is not as well.

 

I do agree with COMBATFUN that a RTX 2080 ti is not enough. So I will be getting 3080 tis and 4080 tis for SE and RT.

 

My i7 8086k is also not enough. It has the IPC for the level of modding I do in this game now but not for my Fallout 4 game and my future plans for this one. I need a CPU that can get a Cinebench single core score of at least 250. My i7 8086k and the i9 9900k have a score of around 219.

 

So I need GPUs and CPUs that don't exist yet so I can add more content to my SE game. It least it will help with real time raytracing as well.

[mikulash]

Thanks for the replies,

 

I'm using RLO, Verdant, 3d trees, combined with color correction ENB the game looks great at like i said 50-60 fps, which is totally playable. Along with a load of 4k textures. I still prefer higher resolution if your screen supports it than other settings,

 

I'm probably replacing my cpu some time in the near future in any case, as its 2 generations behind. But for now i'll be burning the it to Sovngarde.

[Deleted58783396User]

Hi

 

I have been playing Skyrim SE at 4k since it came out.

 

At its heart it is a CPU game. To maintain 60fps with ENB plus Reshade it takes my 2080 ti overclocked plus my i7 8086k with 5ghz on all cores. With that the mods mentioned are not a problem. Those mods where a problem when I used an i7 6700k with a GTX 1080 ti.

 

I/O is a big deal with this game as well. I just bought a 2tb 970 EVO. I got it for this game and Fallout 4. My vanilla games are fine with SATA SSDs but my modded bethesda games are not. After using it I know that SATA SSDs are not up to running old saves on a heavily modded game.

My old saves are crazy hard to run though. Three hundred draugr in a dungeon cell is not uncommon and 60 plus followers using MHIYH in the Whiterun area is not as well.

 

I do agree with COMBATFUN that a RTX 2080 ti is not enough. So I will be getting 3080 tis and 4080 tis for SE and RT.

 

My i7 8086k is also not enough. It has the IPC for the level of modding I do in this game now but not for my Fallout 4 game and my future plans for this one. I need a CPU that can get a Cinebench single core score of at least 250. My i7 8086k and the i9 9900k have a score of around 219.

 

So I need GPUs and CPUs that don't exist yet so I can add more content to my SE game. It least it will help with real time raytracing as well.

 

the issue is not the hardware, its the game engine itself, 1 must remeber all bethesda games are console first and foremost, consoles cannot have the same power a high end pc has, not too mention their games are not optimized properly for High End Pcs

 

Bethesda target audience is Console Gamers, which use greatly inferior hardware as opposed to a high end pc, hell even mid range pc will dominate a console.

 

this is exactly why unmodded fallout 4 runs better on xbox then it does on a high end pc.

 

its exactly why its the mod authors fixing performance issues, rather then the actual game devs, and yet even then theirs a limit to what a mod author can do, as they will not be able to fix the engine, only bethesda can fix.

 

it does not matter if you had an artificial intelligence grade computer (a computer so powerful it can run its own fully self aware artifical intelligence), you will still hit the engine limitations, which will destroy performance and other related issues.

 

the more powerful of a computer you have, the more ovbious the engine limitations become, same applies to using more intensive mods.

 

their should be absolutely no reason at hardware level, why mods like Verdant should destroy performance of a super computer, and yet it does. the reason is because of the bottleneck that is the old gamebyro engine.

 

a Grass Overhaul mod, should not bring a 1500 pound processor and equally as expensive GPU to its knees, it would be ridiculous to think that an extremely powerful GPU and CPU will struggle with something so basic.

[jones177]

 

the issue is not the hardware, its the game engine itself, 1 must remeber all bethesda games are console first and foremost, consoles cannot have the same power a high end pc has, not too mention their games are not optimized properly for High End Pcs

 

I started out as a programer so I have a good idea how things work.

 

 

Yes, it is the game engine but I learned years ago that you can overcome some of the limitations by brute force.

 

Since my post I have been testing SSE with the 970 EVO. It has taken the slight I/O pauses that were put in by JKs Skyrim. I am already adding more enemy NPCs to my game since I have some load-in headroom.

 

I have had powerful computer hardware since the 80s. I started out as a programer, then 3D animator and retired as a 3D designer. So it is sort of what I do(did).

 

I have been doing this sort of modding since Microsoft Flight Simulator 2000. Add content, brake the game/sim. Add better hardware when available. Then add more content and brake the game. So almost 20 years now.

 

I am still getting good results so I will continue.

[mikulash]

Overall im sure its a combination of both hardware and game engine limits, probably more on the game side.

if i had more free time id be testing stuff and making a 4k 60fps mod list, I still have a lot to read, learn, figure out about modding but when i get home i just wanna play ^^ My current Frankenstein mod list is just a test bench, i wanna remake it when im not lazy these days.

 

From what i tested, 1440p and 2160p there is a noticeable difference in fps, I still prefer a sharper image for 10 fps. I also need a higher than 60mhz refresh rate screen, better CPU,... mo money mo problems xD

 

Once you see the game in 4k you cant go back, i tried running 1080p and it looks like 800x600,... And I played on 1080p daily, hell I played on lower than that since 2011, but we've come a long way, and lets hope we go even further in the future.

 

Thank you for the replies, please feel free to give suggestions to what one should do when modding to keep the game healthy from engine limits, crashes, stutters and similar anomalies.