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All Mods Affecting Spawns Cause Game Instability


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I have the same issue you have, and here's some information for you to consider:

 

 

- ASIS and SkyrimMoreSpawns have an incredibly taxing method for increasing how many spawns your game has. They attach a script to every single npc/monster in the game, and when you enter an area each of those scripts fires simultaneously. That's a lot for the game to handle, no matter what system it has behind it.

 

I'm not sure if you actually said that you were using both ASIS and SkyrimMoreSpawns at the same time, but if you were then you took the above issue and increased it exponentially, since one mod ran all those scripts and spawned a ton of npcs, and then the other mod did the same thing on all the npcs the first one spawned. So if you're using both at the same time... STOP IT! Now, even worse, if you're using these mods along with Monster Wars or Warzones, then the problem gets bigger again.

 

SkyrimMoreSpawns has options in its MCM menu that lessen enemy spawns while not in a dungeon; you might want to consider setting those so it doesn't spawn additonal npcs outside dungeons, though I'm not sure this actually solves the underlying problem which is all those scripts firing at once.

 

 

 

If you want an alternative, look at Nightmare. Nightmare uses a much less taxing method; it runs one script that selectively spawns npcs around you. I have used it without issue. The only problem with it is that because of its method, you will often not see much of a difference when not in a dungeon, since you won't always encounter the groups that it is spawning while in exteriors. In interiors however, it does fun stuff like spawn npcs behind you in parts of the dungeon you have already cleared, meaning that the way out can be just as fun as the way in.

 

 

 

The following is more opinion:

 

Warzones and Monster Wars were not meant to be used with heavily modded games. They add a lot to the game on their own, and when you add a fully modded setup to that it spells disaster for your game. Skyrim is perhaps the least moddable elder scrolls game ever in terms of how much you can add to it, so you'll have to sacrifice something. It comes down to quanity or quality; you can either have a lot of npcs to fight, or you can have a more in depth fight.

 

I've been looking for a solution to the problems you've listed for a while now, and the above is really all I've come up with. Just like you, I remember a time where I was running the spawn mods and fighting groups of 30+ bandits, and swarms of Draugr without issue... but I think that was before I added a bunch of other mods.

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  • 3 weeks later...

I'm having a problem related to yours I think. I am using Skyrim Immersive Creatures which add increased spawns to the game. I am getting so many crashes near Riften I don't know what to do anymore... I surely hope it is related to Immersive Creatures because it has an option to turn off additional spawns, which I will be trying asap.

 

Symptoms of my crashes:

  • Randomly walking outdoors near Riften CTDs every 5-10 minutes
  • Sometimes pressing the ESC button may cause a crash as well
  • When I die and auto-load a previous save file it crashes. Sometimes immediatly, sometimes it succeeds in loading and CTD's 1 second later (strangely manually loading does not crash as often)

My specs:

  • GeForce GTX 770 4GB
  • Intel Core i5 4670
  • 16GB RAM
  • 250GB SSD (with Skyrim installed on it)

My load order:

 

 

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I checked my papyrus log after each crash, but I found nothing out of the ordinary. Also, I don't think I'm already hitting the 3.1GB limit, as sometimes I CTD 10 minutes after starting.

I thought it could be a navmesh issue, but I'm not entirely sure. I'm thinking and hoping it's the increased spawns so i can do something about it.

 

Kind regards

Andre

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  • 7 months later...

If you find anything pls let us know, I am having the same issues and it is becoming really a pitty because I would love to use mods like Sands of Time, Nightmare, Increased spawns etc. At some point I will make a post with my mods load order and all kinds of logs

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