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I'm stuck at Pilgrim rank on Oblivions Knights of The Nine Faction, please help!


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I'm stuck at Pilgrim Faction Rank [Next rank: Novice], despite having completed the quest line and "Utterly Defeating Umaril the Unfeathered", I know it registered it because it's in my completed quest log page, and people all around Cyrodil mention my being the Divine Crusader and defeating Umaril above Imperial City.

Now for more context, I like to complete quest lines (for the most part) one by one and I just so happen to be playing my first play-through of a 'Slightly modded but largely vanilla Orcish Crusader Build'. My only mods are; OBSE (of course), DarnifiedUI (regular edition / not DarkUI), the Unofficial Patches, keychain, and Enhanced Hotkeys; I'm 99.99% sure I did my modding correctly as all my mods are working as designed, and besides I still get this issue on pure vanilla runs as well.
As I have already "completed" The nights of the nine quest I am unsure what I could do to fix this as you cant undo quests without loading back to an older save, and even then, this is an issue I have regardless of mods or play through. Ive looked as hard as I can for solutions of any kind but found nothing, I'm too far in my game to go back now, if I need to use console I'm perfectly willing to do so. I'll try anything bar removing mods (for fear of corrupting my save files) or restarting my play through.

The only three related articles/forums/pages I could find are as follows: \/ \/ \/ \/
- https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Knights_of_the_Nine
- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/924363-the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/55017805
- https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/79226-layman/

Just some stats in the event that you need to know these, if there are any not listed that you need/want to know then just comment or DM me, I'll check in every once in a while.
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Ive completed the following factions; Knights of the Nine ( < Technically I have but my post says otherwise), Fighters Guild.
I'm in progress of completing the following factions; Mages Guild (Associate), Arena (Bloodletter).
Planned factions that I have yet to start are as follows; Blades (Still haven't given away the Amulet of Kings), Order of Virtuous Blood (Not started), and probably some others I cant think of ATM.

Please help if you can, like I said DM me or comment if you have questions or solutions. Once I have this solved then I will Update the post with the solution or lack there of. Thanks in advance!

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The console command is ...

 

setfactionrank xx000cee 2

 

... where you replace the xx with the mod index number for Knights of the Nine in your load order (can be found in the Wrye Bash Mods tab list).

 

If you want to troubleshoot why I'd start by confirming you achieved completion of NDPilgrim (getstage NDPilgrim ... should report 200). You can see the complete quest stage list for the NDPilgrim quest at the bottom of the page Oblivion:Pilgrimage.

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The console command is ...

 

setfactionrank xx000cee 2

 

... where you replace the xx with the mod index number for Knights of the Nine in your load order (can be found in the Wrye Bash Mods tab list).

 

If you want to troubleshoot why I'd start by confirming you achieved completion of NDPilgrim (getstage NDPilgrim ... should report 200). You can see the complete quest stage list for the NDPilgrim quest at the bottom of the page Oblivion:Pilgrimage.

Thanks for responding. You are correct that the NDPilgrim outputs 200.00, however I'm not sure if I'm just being inept but I checked in both vortex and Wrye Bash the load order for Knights.esp that happened to be in slot 17, so first I entered in "setfactionrank 17000cee 2" it responded with a missing reference, so then I mistook what it meant by reference so I then typed "player.setfactionrank 17000cee 2" that just outputted an error, then I remembered in oblivion you can reference the player by clicking on them in console and so I did "setfactionrank 17000cee 2" this neither output an error, said I referenced wrong, or worked.

To be clear, the problem still persists.

 

*EDIT* 1 : Still very confused but I was inputing different numbers into the spot '2' occupies after the id string "setfactionrank 17000cee [#]" and found that different numbers either do nothing or something im not looking for. then I noticed what I guess I never saw before my issue is in regards to the Nine Divines faction rather than The Knights of the Nine faction. It says that I am infarct The Divine Crusader under The Knights of tThe Nine but says I'm still pilgrim (next rank is Novice) under The Nine Divines, and I think that means we've been looking in the wrong place the whole time (thats if im not mistaken).

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The console command is ...

 

setfactionrank xx000cee 2

 

... where you replace the xx with the mod index number for Knights of the Nine in your load order (can be found in the Wrye Bash Mods tab list).

 

If you want to troubleshoot why I'd start by confirming you achieved completion of NDPilgrim (getstage NDPilgrim ... should report 200). You can see the complete quest stage list for the NDPilgrim quest at the bottom of the page Oblivion:Pilgrimage.

Thanks for responding. You are correct that the NDPilgrim outputs 200.00, however I'm not sure if I'm just being inept but I checked in both vortex and Wrye Bash the load order for Knights.esp that happened to be in slot 17, so first I entered in "setfactionrank 17000cee 2" it responded with a missing reference, so then I mistook what it meant by reference so I then typed "player.setfactionrank 17000cee 2" that just outputted an error, then I remembered in oblivion you can reference the player by clicking on them in console and so I did "setfactionrank 17000cee 2" this neither output an error, said I referenced wrong, or worked.

To be clear, the problem still persists.

 

*EDIT* 1 : Still very confused but I was inputing different numbers into the spot '2' occupies after the id string "setfactionrank 17000cee [#]" and found that different numbers either do nothing or something im not looking for. then I noticed what I guess I never saw before my issue is in regards to the Nine Divines faction rather than The Knights of the Nine faction. It says that I am infarct The Divine Crusader under The Knights of tThe Nine but says I'm still pilgrim (next rank is Novice) under The Nine Divines, and I think that means we've been looking in the wrong place the whole time (thats if im not mistaken).

 

I think im on the right track. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/38417-is-there-a-full-faction-id-list-available/

There is a list of ID's, and I found the one that im looking for but now im not sure you are even supposed to get to or pass Novice in the Nine Divines faction. I think this to be the case as the artwork is blank at any level higher than 1 aka Pilgrim (scale of 1-9 : Pilgrim-Primate). Unfortunate but I think this may be the end. Please respond if you have questions or had the same issue and found a fix I couldn't.

Gruß, guten Tag und gute Nacht!

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Oblivion's load order is hexadecimal ... the number 17 does not exist in hexadecimal (numbering starts at 0 so 15 is 0f, 16 is 10 and 17 is 11).

 

In Wrye Bash the mod index number is just to the right of the ESP name column, and should be displayed using the correct hexadecimal number for where Knights.esp is in your load order. Use those two digits as the replacement for xx in my previous post.

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Oblivion's load order is hexadecimal ... the number 17 does not exist in hexadecimal (numbering starts at 0 so 15 is 0f, 16 is 10 and 17 is 11).

 

In Wrye Bash the mod index number is just to the right of the ESP name column, and should be displayed using the correct hexadecimal number for where Knights.esp is in your load order. Use those two digits as the replacement for xx in my previous post.

Thanks for the help but I'm pretty sure I figured it out, we're apparently talking about two different factions. As I linked before, I found a page listing all the factions ID's (which I never would have thought to look for without your help) and found the one I was having issues with, I then reverse engineered the console code you gave me to fit to the faction and rank I was looking for, I then found out that I was not intended to reach the rank I was looking for. Also the number 17 was working in that code just it wasn't what I was looking for apparently as there are two factions you join in the Knights-DLC, your correction of changing the 17 for 11 just outputs an error. Thanks anyways, this would have plagued me forever had you not added your input as it was essential to the solution despite it not being "THE" solution.

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