Ghost People issue

[RandomTestGuy]

Good day.

 

Currently, i'm having some issues with regards to the ghost people in the DLC dead money. It seems I cannot dismember them no matter what i do. It was working fine a few days ago. I used a mod that lets me go back to sierra madre. This is my load order.

 

0 0 FalloutNV.esm

1 1 DeadMoney.esm

2 2 HonestHearts.esm

3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm

4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm

5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

6 6 ClassicPack.esm

7 7 MercenaryPack.esm

8 8 TribalPack.esm

9 9 CaravanPack.esm

10 a YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

11 b Decrucifixion.esm

12 c JIP Selective-Fire.esm

13 d Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

14 e FCOMaster.esm

15 f SolidProject.esm

16 10 Casino UnBanner.esm

17 11 Functional Post Game Ending.esp

18 12 NVWillow.esp

19 13 Project Nevada - Core.esm

20 14 Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

21 15 Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

22 16 CFWNV.esm

23 17 Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

24 18 Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

25 19 YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

26 1a SomePerks.esp

27 1b Uncut Wasteland.esp

28 1c NVAnimatedEDEFace.esp

29 1d Fallout 4 SPECIAL Perks.esp

30 1e JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp

31 1f RangerSequoiaSafehouse.esp

32 20 JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

33 21 Lessons Learned Overhaul.esp

34 22 Lonesome Road - Thought you died fix.esp

35 23 FO4PowerArmor.esp

36 24 FCO - NPC Changes.esp

37 25 outsidebets.esp

38 26 WeaponModsExpanded.esp

39 27 WMX-DLCMerged.esp

40 28 Mojave Wildlife (Vanilla-Style).esp

41 29 ARESproject.esp

42 2a Functional Post Game Ending - Uncut Wasteland Patch.esp

43 2b Functional Post Game Ending - Outside Bets Patch.esp

44 2c More Perks Merged.esp

45 2d X-1_Tales_of_Wonder!.esp

46 2e Conelrad 640-1240.esp

47 2f MojaveSandyDesert.esp

48 30 HHrespawn.esp

49 31 Man's Best Friend.esp

50 32 Player Vertibird.esp

51 33 Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp

52 34 Karma Perks.esp

53 35 NCR Ranger Helmet Neck Cover.esp

54 36 Purge Cell Buffers.esp

55 37 Lucky38Overhaul.esp

56 38 The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

57 39 JIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.esp

58 3a RealisticBulletsNoTracersGRA.esp

59 3b QSPlasmaCutter.esp

60 3c Buffed_Lucky.esp

61 3d PNx Chargeable Tesla Deathray.esp

62 3e WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

63 3f Encore_LvlReset.esp

64 40 OldWorldBlues - Keep Big MT Active.esp

65 41 TrueHometownHero.esp

66 42 CFW-PN-DLC.esp

67 43 CFW-PN.esp

68 44 Project Nevada - WMX.esp

69 45 PowerArmorRevamped.esp

70 46 Decrucifixion.esp

71 47 SteelTrimmed.esp

72 48 NukaCola-Ojo.esp

73 49 Decrucifixion - More Victims.esp

74 4a Return To Sierra Madre.esp

75 4b CourierRangerArmorV2.esp

76 4c WMX-POPMerged.esp

77 4d Dead Money Survival Gear.esp

78 4e Book of Steel.esp

79 4f boa ncrpahelmet.esp

80 50 Boacombat2glove.esp

81 51 A Better Cass.esp

82 52 FCO - OHSB NPC Edits.esp

83 53 hz_Automatic Weapons Fix.esp

84 54 NAPA-NV 0.1.esp

85 55 MonocyteImplantImproved.esp

86 56 Delay Level Up.esp

87 57 Delay Level Up - Stealth Suit Fix.esp

88 58 MaxCasinoWinnings.esp

89 59 AnimalFriendFixed_HH.esp

90 5a Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp

91 5b Unofficial Patch NVSE.esp

92 5c Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp

93 5d Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp

94 5e Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp

95 5f Riot Gear Neck Cover.esp

96 60 Project Nevada - Old World Blues.esp

97 61 The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

98 62 Missing Plugins.esp

99 63 CFW-DLC.esp

100 64 JIP MiniMap.esp

101 65 RNVExpanded.esp

102 66 ILO - NVWillow.esp

103 67 ILO - YUP Patch.esp

104 68 MoraelinsProfessionalsSuitMod.esp

105 69 LiveDismember.esp

106 6a Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

[dubiousintent]

What changed? In general, if you haven't changed anything about your game and it suddenly stops working correctly you need to look to other causes: such as software updates to Windows, programming libraries such as ".Net", or hardware drivers. Older games eventually get dropped from product testing. It is also possible you are having problems with your hard drive. It never hurts to run "chkdsk".

I don't see anything obviously wrong with that "load order", except:

 

1) your "Bashed Patch" file is not active. That means you are not getting the "record-level conflict resolution" benefit, including "merged leveled lists". Please see the 'Third Rule: The Rule of One' and 'Merge Patch File' sections of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article.

 

2) Also you have the "Purge Cell Buffers.esp" plugin.

 

* Do not use an "Auto-purge" mod for game play. (That was old advice from before we knew better.) They are designed for debugging by mod creator's only, according to the author of the JIP extensions to NVSE. See the 'Issue: CTD without warning, "Out of Memory error", or stops responding after the Main Menu', "Cause-2", "Solution-3" entry in the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide for the game settings that do the same job.

-Dubious-

[RandomTestGuy]

Thanks for the tip. Yeah I forgot that i'm still using purge cell buffers. Anyway nothing much changed. only i cannot dismember the ghost people anymore. It was working on an old save so i was thinking it probably has something to do with going back to the sierra madre casino even though i have already finished the dlc.

 

EDIT: it looks like the issue is coming from this mod "Return To Sierra Madre" i saw one of the posts mention being unable to cripple the limbs of ghost people after returning to the casino

Edited April 27, 2019 by RandomTestGuy

[dubiousintent]

Thanks for reporting about the apparent conflict with "Return To Sierra Madre". Can you confirm that is the cause? (I was unable to find any other reports of this issue.) If so, I will add it to the wiki.

 

-Dubious-

[JimboUK]

I can confirm this, Ghost People are invincible if you return after completing the DLC, I used the Exit Door mod to return and had the same thing happen. It's mentioned here, 4th post down. https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40864?tab=posts

[dubiousintent]

Thanks for the confirmation. With that clue I was able to confirm that same "invincibility" problem is reported in "Return To The Sierra Madre Casino" as well.

 

Added as 'Issue - DLC Dead Money - Cannot kill or dismember ''Ghost People''' under "Solutions to Miscellaneous Problems" section of the wiki "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" article, with a suggested solution of manually adding the "Ghost Hunter" perk (via a tool such as "Fallout NV Cheat Terminal Redux" possibly) proposed in a comment from one of those mods.

 

-Dubious-