[SPOILERS] My very Own Skyrim FULL review

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most quests are still glitched

 

I'm afraid I'm going to have to jump in singing a different tune to most in this thread. I was happy to "lurk with frustration" but I have to point out that suggesting most quests are glitched is grossly unfair. I would suggest that the amount of quest-based content in skyrim that has a glitch severe enough to impact upon its playability would be far closer to 5% than 50%.

 

You should enlighten yourself. Don't take my word for it. Go and see. It's closer to 90%, and at least 65% of them have more than five bugs severe enough to be worth mentioning on the wiki.

[nexusux]

Oh don't get me wrong I totally agree with you. The game is great but deeply flawed, riddled with poor decisions and lazy absentminded programming.

 

A huge let down from the previous game. Shame too, design wise it is the best looking, the design for each race is actually decent none of them looking laughably bad. The animations are smooth and well done. Physics precise and more realistic.

 

Best design, Better balance between numbers and player coordination, Best physics engine, Better overall dungeon design.

 

Basically it's the prettiest and easiest of the series. It is much easier to get into the world of skyrim than the others both gameplay and roleplay wise.

 

Love it to death though. :thumbsup:

 

Edit: But I also can't help but feel they are relying a little too much on the modding community to fix all their apparent screw ups. All these very obvious flaws that even someone with no knowledge in game design would at least consider fixing. Why? :confused:

 

This is the worst TES Role-play wise buddy, idk if you are old enough, but if you had the experience people who actually played Oblivion when it was new, you would feel just like I do about the RP in Skyrim, you need to put effort to RP, at all points, because you are forced into all Guilds, you are forced to do many things to actualy be able to play the game, unless you go for EASY mode... It hurt my eye and my heart to read that, I can agree about the visual part, but I totally disagree about the Game Design, it is bad and flawed, if compared to any other TES, it isn't a TES, just like DA2 isn't a Dragon Age...

 

Before Skyrim came out I had never played a TES game. Infact I barely played games on a computer (I was always more of a web geek). My experience of RPG games was Mass effect and Fallout 3 on the xbox. Other than Minecraft, Starcraft and the Portals, Skyrim was the first game I played on the PC. All my friends were raging about it in the run up to its release - pre-ordering collectors editions and so on, whilst I was left somewhat bemused as to the hype.

 

That's why you think that way, try to play Oblivion, download all graphic mods possible before, so you can stand it, and go for it, don't look back, when you are done with adding mods and going on 4 diff playthroughs with 4 diff classes, than we talk, srsly, the youngest gamming generations are the one being fooled, because you actually believe that the game is good, when it's far from what I've used to consider good...

 

I can condense my review a bit better:Skyrim is like that annoying kid who likes to yell "look at me" and then does the same annoying cartwheel for the fiftieth time, but on a grander scale. I think maybe it's more appropriate to compare Skyrim to a man who just learned to juggle three balls, so he then picks up seventeen running chainsaws and tosses them into the air. I think we all know how this is going to turn out, right?It's like a plane crash or like a toppling building. It's horrible and shocking, but you can't look away.

 

Couldn't put it better myself lol

Edited August 31, 2012 by nexusux

[TheUninvitedGuest]

You should enlighten yourself. Don't take my word for it. Go and see. It's closer to 90%, and at least 65% of them have more than five bugs severe enough to be worth mentioning on the wiki.

 

Yes - every page mentions a possible bug of some kind, but thats its job - its a wiki... the fact is I live in a house of 5 people, 4 of whom have played skyrim through and that percentage doesn't reflect, even closely, any of our experiences. I can remember off hand perhaps 3 quests where I was forced to use console commands to fix something - none of which were in the main storyline. (2 of them were the college and greybeard radiant quests respectively). Just because people have reported bugs does not mean its a consistent problem for the userbase - especially amongst the modding community.

 

 

 

That's why you think that way, try to play Oblivion, download all graphic mods possible before, so you can stand it, and go for it, don't look back, when you are done with adding mods and going on 4 diff playthroughs with 4 diff classes, than we talk, srsly, the youngest gamming generations are the one being fooled, because you actually believe that the game is good, when it's far from what I've used to consider good...

 

 

I'm sure I mentioned that I bought both Morrowind and Oblivion ...? I haven't played Morrowind for much more than a few hours yet but I have played Oblivion through. Its a great game, but I'm perfectly capable of acknowledging its flaws, and the areas in which Skyrim outperforms it. Also - youngest generations ? Apparently I'm 3 years younger than you. Perhaps you mean how long I've been playing games for. Again, I'm pretty sure your opinion is not consistent with some of the more avid/life-long gamers I know... I would ask but I'm scared to approach the mountain of empty coke zero cans that has slowly been building around them and their desks since the release of GW2 lol.

 

For the record, just because someone holds a different opinion to yourself does not necessarily mean they are poorly informed. I did mention why I thought Skyrim was good.

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Yes - every page mentions a possible bug of some kind, but thats its job - its a wiki... the fact is I live in a house of 5 people, 4 of whom have played skyrim through and that percentage doesn't reflect, even closely, any of our experiences. I can remember off hand perhaps 3 quests where I was forced to use console commands to fix something - none of which were in the main storyline. (2 of them were the college and greybeard radiant quests respectively). Just because people have reported bugs does not mean its a consistent problem for the userbase - especially amongst the modding community.

 

Wow. You're very lucky. I wouldn't expect to repeat that experience. I assume I don't need to point out the obvious flaw in your reasoning there (absence of proof, etc.).

[TheUninvitedGuest]

Yes - every page mentions a possible bug of some kind, but thats its job - its a wiki... the fact is I live in a house of 5 people, 4 of whom have played skyrim through and that percentage doesn't reflect, even closely, any of our experiences. I can remember off hand perhaps 3 quests where I was forced to use console commands to fix something - none of which were in the main storyline. (2 of them were the college and greybeard radiant quests respectively). Just because people have reported bugs does not mean its a consistent problem for the userbase - especially amongst the modding community.

 

Wow. You're very lucky. I wouldn't expect to repeat that experience. I assume I don't need to point out the obvious flaw in your reasoning there (absence of proof, etc.).

 

 

Absolutely - I am merely providing an alternate take on the game - all reasoning is based upon my perspective only. Its worth mentioning however that everyone takes are heavily influenced by their own perspectives and that it is not wrong to consider the merits of Skyrim from the point of view of someone who played it first.

 

My main points were actually in defence of a whole range of criticisms anyway - such as the game being a console port, not having large enough scope and perhaps being dumbed down.

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As much as I think oblivion is a technically better game. And as much as I agree with a lot of the points said here. I'm going to say this I never truely enjoyed the elder scrolls series until Skyrim came along.

 

The games always looked off, the animations, the visuals, the models, the voice acting, the lore, the gameplay all looked off to me to some degree. And I never completed any of their main quests. I never even put more 50 hours into those games. They sounded like awsome games but I personally never really CARED about any of it.

 

And then skyrim came along, and suddenly I wanted to play it. And when I finally got the game. I played till the very end of the main quest no breaks and logged well over 200 hours into the game. Most of it spent running around the place. I love this game and it motivated me to go and beat the others to. And I did not nearly enjoy those games as much as I did this one.

 

This game the series a much needed entry point into the series. It has much more accessible lore, magic, and combat. And though the game feels basic it had a much more defined structure easier to see and in essence much better looking. I felt more motivated to do something because the game didn't ease it's hold after the beginning. It gave a sense of urgency that no elder scrolls have since captured. It may feel like railroading but in many real life situations in times of crisis you would not really have time to do everything ever and you certainly wouldn't have much of a choice in how things went.

 

Sometimes having freedom from the get go can be boring. Having to motivate yourself to start the main quest line it should be the other way around. And that is why I never really cared for oblivion or morrowind in terms of being a game worth playing for extended periods.

 

Skyrim showed me what the elder scrolls can bring. A bright shining world ripe with places to see, people to meet, and monsters to destroy. A game that forces you into its lore then letting you go to do as you please. And that is why I can never really play oblivion anymore.

 

But don't take me for a hypocrite I'm quite envious of the hand to hand, and allowing my character to have a history before things started. And a number of other things. But a lot of the things I did not enjoy about oblivion or morrowind was addressed in this game. And that is more than enough for me.

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This game the series a much needed entry point into the series. It has much more accessible lore, magic, and combat. And though the game feels basic it had a much more defined structure easier to see and in essence much better looking. I felt more motivated to do something because the game didn't ease it's hold after the beginning. It gave a sense of urgency that no elder scrolls have since captured. It may feel like railroading but in many real life situations in times of crisis you would not really have time to do everything ever and you certainly wouldn't have much of a choice in how things went.

 

Sometimes having freedom from the get go can be boring. Having to motivate yourself to start the main quest line it should be the other way around. And that is why I never really cared for oblivion or morrowind in terms of being a game worth playing for extended periods.

 

You make a good point. Still... You've never finished Oblivion? Not even Shivering Isles? Not even a guild? That's a little hard to believe. Oblivion's main quest sucked me in three times over the course of several play throughs, and I can't even imagine the game without at least wondering what's behind that weird door.

[nexusux]

I wasn't attacking you man, I was just saying, timing is what made Oblivion better than Skyrim, if we had oblivion being released at the same time it would be worse, simply because of the engine, graphics, etc...

 

Imagine Oblivion on Skyrim's engine, with all the animations upgrades and the likes... Well, I don't have to say much, but Morroblivion team will be making that for Skyrim, porting both gamesi nto the new engine, when it's done you will understand why I'm so mad at Bethesda about Skyrim, although I agree it's a good game, it isn't what it should've being, and that's it!

 

I'm moving out from my appartment today, so I can't talk much about it right now, but I'll be back in a couple days and we can continue.

[wuffser]

This game the series a much needed entry point into the series. It has much more accessible lore, magic, and combat. And though the game feels basic it had a much more defined structure easier to see and in essence much better looking. I felt more motivated to do something because the game didn't ease it's hold after the beginning. It gave a sense of urgency that no elder scrolls have since captured. It may feel like railroading but in many real life situations in times of crisis you would not really have time to do everything ever and you certainly wouldn't have much of a choice in how things went.

 

Sometimes having freedom from the get go can be boring. Having to motivate yourself to start the main quest line it should be the other way around. And that is why I never really cared for oblivion or morrowind in terms of being a game worth playing for extended periods.

 

You make a good point. Still... You've never finished Oblivion? Not even Shivering Isles? Not even a guild? That's a little hard to believe. Oblivion's main quest sucked me in three times over the course of several play throughs, and I can't even imagine the game without at least wondering what's behind that weird door.

 

Yes seriously, thought hard to believe, I have not joined a guild, heck I didn't even know that the game had followers, or marriage. Until I played Skyrim and went back and played it in full. And I also went and downloaded all the extra stuff (That my pc could handle of course). And I would say that I had to force myself past a lot of parts in the game. It was a nice game, heck I'm even jealous of all the cool utility spells, the fame/infamy feature, and expansive character customization options. But it did little to motivate me to do things, the base designs SUCK hard, even with all those improvements it did little to halt the fact that kajits looked like they got their face run with a steam roller.

 

But in all fairness the ONLY reason Oblivion is vastly superior is because of the sheer number of complete overhauls, bug fixes, and features added thanks to the modding community and Bethesda. That is why I think the game needs time, It needs time to grow and develop, and maybe then I'll accept the number of complaints lauded against it.

[Enatiomorph]

Yeah, the game is dumbed down and cut to hell, but there was no rush to start the MQ.