CTD At/Near Orphan Rock with multiple load orders/mod groupings

[Rogue822]

I've been struggling with this issue for the past few days with no success. I thought i solved this ctd multiple times only for it to immediately come back and destroy everything again. I have the perfect combination of mods so far that i really like, however no matter what i try i can't get this ctd in this single spot to go away. My game works totally fine until i either coc orphanrockexterior01 or teleport to helgen and walk to orphan rock then i get a loading screen for a little then instant crash to desktop. I don't crash anywhere else and i'm starting to get really frustrated with this as the one person who had this problem and posted online had different mods than me + didn't even figure out what mod caused it and nobody has been able to help me in any of my other posts. I know i could just go through the game and ignore it but i want to actually be able to go through the full game along with bruma and not have to worry about a random crash if i accidentally go near it. Here is my load order. If you are able to help figure out what is making it crash or have any load order changes that need to be made, thank you for your help.

 

EDIT: I ended up following the nordic sse modding guide and redid my mods. I managed to get rid of the ctd at orphan rock and i can still have all of the mods that i want to have and i didn't need to make a bashed patch. Now i just have to hope it doesn't happen again and that there are no ctds anywhere else.

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

RSkyrimChildren.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

BSAssets.esm

BSHeartland.esm

BS_DLC_patch.esp

Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl

Extra Encounters SE.esm

FlowerGirls SE.esm

GeneralStores.esm

OSA.esm

Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp

Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp

SkyUI_SE.esp

RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp

Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp

TouringCarriages.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

TrueStormsSE.esp

Obsidian Weathers.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Qw_RelightingSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp

icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp

iHUD.esp

Immersive Dragon Sounds.esp

BlendedRoads.esp

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

JKs Skyrim.esp

Blues Skyrim.esp

JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp

RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp

CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp

RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

RDO - USSEP Patch.esp

Realistic Haircolors.esp

J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp

AskArngeir.esp

Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp

AI Overhaul.esp

High Hrothgar Elevator.esp

Bruma - Better Defendable.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

RSChildren.esp

RSC_USSEP_AventusFix.esp

Original Opening Scene.esp

Blowing in the Wind - JKS_DoS_Patch.esp

Immersive Music.esp

Immersive Encounters.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

fallentreebridgesSSE.esp

Immersive Horses.esp

SPERG-SSE.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp

BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp

SPERG_ImmersiveArmorsPatch.esp

SPERG_USSEPPatch.esp

Immersive Horses - BS Bruma Patch.esp

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Immersive Horses Patch.esp

Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp

Apothecaria.esp

Aequinoctium Addon for Obsidian.esp

WetandCold.esp

Darker Nights for Obsidian Weathers.esp

12FemaleBrows.esp

Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp

frozenintime.esp

JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp

nwsFollowerFramework.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

HomeMapMarkersForOpenCities.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

Delphine's Map Reveals Dragon Mounds.esp

SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE.esp

Diverse Imperial Soldiers.esp

Diverse Stormcloak Soldiers.esp

EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp

EMHearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp

Enchanting Freedom.esp

GoToBed.esp

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

Infinite Torch.esp

infiniteCharge.esp

Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp

Qw_RSChildren_AIOverhaul Patch.esp

RaceMenu.esp

XPMSE.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

RoyalDaedric.esp

sandboxcylinderheight.esp

Supreme and Volumetric Fog for Obsidian Weathers and Seasons.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

True Storms - Obsidian Weathers - Patch .esp

TrueStorms_MintyLightning_Patch.esp

Upgraded Ebony Blades.esp

Obsidian_TS_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp

Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp

Open Cities Skyrim.esp

JKs Skyrim_Open Cities_Patch.esp

Immersive Encounters - Open Cities Patch.esp

Blowing in the Wind - Open Cities Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

Qw_Luminosity_CRF Patch.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp

Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp

Qw_Luminosity_RW2 Patch.esp

Edited June 11, 2019 by Rogue822

[HadToRegister]

The immediate suspect is whichever mod(s) affect that area.

Remove that one or Those..

Actually I don't see a Bashed Patch in your load order or ANY type of Merge Patch in your load order.

[Rogue822]

I removed immersive borders and a battle aftermath mod yesterday which were the only two mods that put something near there and it still crashed. None of my other mods affect that area or could cause crashes in that area because i was able to load a similar mod group without getting a CTD last night before i started getting it again. I haven't done any bashed patches or merges because i haven't learned wrye bash yet. If i was to learn it and add a bashed patch would that possibly solve it?

Edited June 11, 2019 by Rogue822

[HadToRegister]

I removed immersive borders and a battle aftermath mod yesterday which were the only two mods that put something near there and it still crashed. None of my other mods affect that area or could cause crashes in that area because i was able to load a similar mod group without getting a CTD last night before i started getting it again. I haven't done any bashed patches or merges because i haven't learned wrye bash yet. If i was to learn it and add a bashed patch would that possibly solve it?

 

 

It might solve it

[Rogue822]

Making a bashed patch did not fix it. Still get the same exact ctd at orphan rock so i don't know what to do to be able to go there with this mod group. Going to make a new profile in mo2 and test it. So frustrating.

Edited June 11, 2019 by Rogue822

[HadToRegister]

Then you still have mods in your load order that affect that area, such a Lighting, Weather, Vegetation, or Dungeon mod