Serana's Mum

[GnatGoSplat]

No, it's not really "releasing" her, I just reused that word because everyone else used it! "Informing" is probably a better word - you can inform her that all is well and she will come with you.

[StayFrosty05]

 

 

Did this today. I'm almost done with the vampire quests, but I'm waiting on the radiant quest system to give me the ones I haven't done yet :rolleyes:

 

As a vampire, she mentions as soon as she leaves the soul cairn that she planted some new plants in the courtyard and she "hopes they will grow". In addition to the usual deathbell and nightshade, there are some mountain flowers and some dragon tongues, but very little else in the courtyard changes. The one vampire whose name begins with a g and I'm too lazy to look up right now offers to repair the doorway to the courtyard. Beyond that there is no further interaction and the mother never leaves the lab.

 

The complaint about the soul cairn entrance is the message "to soul cairn" follows you around the room in a lot bigger radius than is typical. I mean a LOT bigger.

 

Regarding interaction with Serena... it's funny... Bethesda seemed to do a good job of adding specific dialogue to her whenever a new event in the quest line occurs, but once the quest was over, there was nothing about her mother at all, one way or another. I cannot confirm or deny if there's any "idle conversation" with her mother as I've never had the patience to stand still long enough and also I'm not sure if her being a follower would effect such a conversation. I know when you play as Dawnguard her "home" is Dawnguard Fort, but I would presume as a vampire if you dismiss her she stays in the Castle proper and not where her mother is, since that seems to be where she idles during the brief period when you're without her at the beginning of the quest.

 

All in all she's still one of the better characters in the game, and even though I'm attempting to roleplay a pretty evil character I still found myself taking her with me after the quest without any other motivation beyond the fact that I _LIKE_ her.

 

I do plan on curing myself once I've accumulated all the vampire perks to get the trophy, and I'm curious as to whether or not I will get the option to cure Serana at that point like I did during Dawnguard. Except during Dawnguard if you reacted a certain way, the conversation will go into a loop and you never get the option to cure her. I never got the initial conversation as a vampire that I did with Dawnguard prior to finishing the quest.

 

I find playing as a vampire lord SUPER frustrating as it automatically kills your dead thralls (btw, Dawnguard in general really cripples dead thrall), and a vampire lord isn't very powerful and my character is approaching level 60.

 

Thank you for the report Stemin....is very much appreciated.... :happy:

 

It's a shame there is no further dialog with Serana in regards to her mother...would have been a nice touch....I really would (EDIT: oops, I meant 'would not') expect idle chatter though, I have never been aware of Bethesda implementing outside of looped generic NPC chatter and would be surprised if they started now....I think it would be a big ask anyway considering the number of NPC's and possible situations....A reference in direct conversation would be cool though.

 

Yep, I didn't get the option to get Serana to give up her Vamp blood....my Dovahkin was RP'ed to vehemently hate Vamps....had him set up that way whilst waiting for the Dawnguard release and so was I quite disappointed when he had to play nice with Serana....Ended up RP'ing not as a straight out b*stard to her, but he was aloof and business focused only with her...and so I never got the option.

 

Dead Thralls?....Your playing a Necromancer?....Dawnguard makes them weak?.....I think I recall hearing something about if you have Serana with you Bethesda deliberately implemented powering the Dovahkin down whilst a Vamp Lord and in regards to some shared magics with her....sorry, I didn't pay it any more attention than "Oh, that's interesting...I wonder why?" but I didn't pursue the information to find it's source or the issue or anything....as I don't play Mages or Vamps it wasn't pertinent to me....If I stumble across it again I could send you the link if you like?

Edited September 5, 2012 by StayFrosty05

[StayFrosty05]

Unless I'm missing something, it's not really "releasing" her (like from captivity or something - your char breaks her magical confines during the "retrieve mom's ES" quest). It's just that after your char tells her that Harken is dead, she decides it's safe to return to Tamriel and packs up her things.

 

Potatoes/tomatoes though I suppose - sorry, just in a nit-picky mood today I guess :tongue: But, yeah, my char returned to give her the news and the heads' up that it was cool to return. She was a bit torn about doing that, as she still doesn't like vamps too much. But she got kinda sweet on Serana after a while and figured she should do what she could to try and repatch their family.

 

Now if only my char could strike a deal with the townspeople of Arafu to supply her and the other vamps with blood packs so they wouldn't have to feed "manually." (FO3 reference... ha ha ha .. ha ha... ha... er, never mind. :whistling: )

 

*sigh*....semantics kevkiev.... :tongue: ....

 

I wish I understood the FO3 reference.... :sad: ...I'm such a noob.... :tongue: ....I have the game but haven't played it yet....still having too much fun with Skyrim....Only bought the Fallout's because of the awesomeness of the Nexus sight.... :biggrin: ...so haven't had them for long.

[Stemin]

Dead Thralls?....Your playing a Necromancer?....Dawnguard makes them weak?

 

Not weak per say, but there are several points in the game in dlc areas (like the fight with Lord Harkon) as well as a few areas (the Balcony) where your dead thralls either drop dead, or just plain get lost. In addition, they die every time you turn into a vampire lord.

 

Lastly, Serana is a very powerful necromancer in her own right, and constantly resurrects dead enemies of all levels. This causes complications because if your dead thrall does die in combat, she often resurrects them immediately so you lose your thrall. Sometimes they turn to ash when her spell wears off, other times they react like a dead thrall should and just become a dead body like they should.

 

An odd side effect is often after combat, if the dead thrall has been resurrected by Serana and her spell hasn't worn off, they will often begin walking away. I would love to know what script is conflicting and where they're headed, but the spell never lasts long enough for me to figure it out.