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Fallout 4 LOD issues


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Over the last few weeks I have modded Fallout 4 from the ground up 5 times (with completely different load orders each time, around 100-220 mods each time). I've been modding bethesda games for a while and have done so on this same PC a few times before, and I have never noticed this issue. While game stability was decent each time, the one thing that really really bothered me were the huge amounts of LOD/Object pop in, not just fade, but very jarring pop in. I had everything set to ultra and was getting a solid 60fps everywhere, but this one little issue bugged me to no end. I tried re modding the game with no texture enhancements at all to see if it was a vram issue, but alas the pop in was still annoying me to no end. I seriously don't know if I was doing something wrong with LOD generation or if this was just a hard fact of life. The only way I was able to stop this issue was to set Ugrids to 7, but I really don't know if the potential side effects and severe fps drop is worth it. I have uninstalled all my mods since then so I can't give a load order. I just seriously want to know if pop in will always be an issue that I have never noticed before because of the creation engine, or if this is because of mistakes made while modding/hardware. I was running an enb on every single load order, if that would impact this issue at all.

My specs:
(I tried running Fallout 4 off an SSD and a HDD and I was getting this issue on both, only real difference was the load times in actual loading screens)
i7-8700 @ 3.20GHz

Nvidia GTX1080
8GB of VRAM, 16GB of RAM

I also tried modding Skyrim LE, hoping that the older modding community would have a solution to this issue, but still the same thing. Currently building a load order for SE, because I have heard good things about the stability of it, but I haven't got my hopes up.

Very sorry if I have done something wrong with the creation of this topic, this is my first time posting in quite some time.

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It is pretty strange you are having this problem considering what you are running it on. I have zero LOD pop-up issues and I'm on a real potato. I highly doubt the fault is the Creation engine this time. It is very likely an altered .ini change on your part coming from a mod/mods or a conflict of some sort between multiple mods you are using.

 

Posting your load order might help the people on the forum to help you but with so little info given, it is pretty hard to determine where your problem is actually coming from.

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Sorry about that, I was quite busy and I had to do a bit before i got this info ready.

Load order:

This is my current one, earlier ones were a lot more carefully done and pretty but I was still having this same issue.

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 Homemaker.esm
9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm
254 FE 0 BerettaM9FS.esl
10 a XDI.esm
254 FE 1 Shared inventory - Sanctuary and Red Rocket.esl
11 b WorkshopFramework.esm
254 FE 2 Rusty Face Fix.esl
254 FE 3 FAR.esl
12 c Zipsuit.esp
13 d BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
14 e Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp
15 f DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp
16 10 ApalLeotard.esp
17 11 DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
18 12 DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
19 13 fo3friedghouls.esp
20 14 Craftable Vault 81 Cure (Earned).esp
21 15 KSHairdos.esp
22 16 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
23 17 CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
24 18 EnclaveX02.esp
25 19 ExperimentalPlantFarming.esp
26 1a fathercompanion.esp
254 FE 4 Flicker Fixer.esp
27 1b GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp
28 1c FO4LaserBolts.esp
29 1d LongerPowerLines3x.esp
30 1e LooksMenu.esp
31 1f LooksMirror.esp
32 20 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
33 21 LovingCait.esp
34 22 BetterOpenSeason.esp
35 23 NeuraLOD.esp
36 24 NoDeathWeaponDrop.esp
37 25 Nuka-World Collectable Markers.esp
38 26 PlatinumCurieV2.1.esp
39 27 3DNPC_FO4.esp
40 28 SOTS.esp
41 29 MojaveImports.esp
42 2a BetterSynthRelayGrenadesNoSquads.esp
43 2b Jake'sMod.esp
44 2c OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
45 2d CombatZoneRestored.esp
46 2e AA FusionCityRising.esp
47 2f WZWildWasteland.esp
48 30 W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
49 31 AA 50 Ways To Die.esp
50 32 ProjectValkyrie.esp
51 33 CourserCrusher.esp
52 34 Towel_Beds.esp
53 35 BeastWhisperer.esp
54 36 EveryonesBestFriend.esp
55 37 RAW INPUT.esp
56 38 Randomized DC Guard Outfits.esp
57 39 dcc-dialog-helm.esp
58 3a SettlementLimitSlashedFarHarbor.esp
59 3b Subtle Face Tweaks - Piper.esp
60 3c THBrows.esp
61 3d The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
62 3e TheKite_ScoopDigger.esp
63 3f th1nkEyebot.esp
64 40 th1nkEyeBot-FarHarbor.esp
65 41 th1nkEyeBot-NukaWorld.esp
66 42 th1nkEyeBot-DLC03DLC04Addon.esp
67 43 VStringBikini.esp
68 44 Passthrough.esp
69 45 WaitAnywhere.esp
70 46 WorkshopPlus.esp
71 47 CBBE.esp
72 48 DA Micro Bikini v4(No AE & AWKCR).esp
73 49 TheKite_CaitSet.esp
74 4a HAAS Automatron.esp
75 4b HAAS Core.esp
76 4c HAAS Far Harbor.esp
77 4d HAAS Nuka World.esp
78 4e TheKite_CharredVaultSuit.esp
79 4f ALSL Vault Suit Unzipped - Vaults 111 and 95 suits only.esp
80 50 TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform.esp
81 51 TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform_Replacer.esp
82 52 Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
83 53 10mmSMG.esp
84 54 45autoPistol.esp
85 55 Ak5C.esp
86 56 F4NV-AMR.esp
87 57 9mmPistol.esp
88 58 MREs.esp
89 59 F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
90 5a G11.esp
91 5b llamaCompanionHeather.esp
92 5c BasementLiving.esp
93 5d Hellfirenew.esp
94 5e NukaRadBans.esp
95 5f TheKite_VTS.esp
96 60 DP_CaravanShotgun.esp
97 61 Glock86.esp
98 62 HuntingRevolver.esp
99 63 InstitutePowerArmor.esp
100 64 Journal.esp
101 65 WinchesterP94.esp
102 66 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
103 67 StartMeUp.esp
104 68 StartMeUpFarHarborPatch.esp
105 69 StartMeUpNukaWorldPatch.esp


I got a little recording here that kind of shows what I'm talking about. Its a pretty bad video honestly but these kinds of open valley-ish areas are the ones where it was most noticeable while i was playing.
It only really shows grass, but I did experience a bridge popping in from the low quality LOD version at awfully close range, if more examples are needed I can find some more.
https://youtu.be/e5OCu-MmXfs
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That is some of the worst LOD pop-ins I've ever seen. I would start with disabling the usual suspects such as enhanced lights and fx mod and flicker fixer. Disable mods that affect entire DLC and touches on the base mod next. There is a lot of mods in your load order I'm unfamiliar with so I'm not going to be much help except the above advice.

You might also consider converting the FAR mod to an ESL flagged esp and move it to be right under the startmeup esp as to possibly override whatever could be conflicting with the LOD meshes FAR altered as well.

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I tried disabling those mods and nothing changed. Then I disabled my entire load order, and somehow the issue became worse. I am going to do a complete reinstall of the game and the .ini files as well to see if this issue happens on a completely blank slate.

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I doubt that that would be the cause. I've been trying to learn how to mod better and more cautiously. I'm aware of how saves are affected by mods in Bethesda games, so basically whenever mods are uninstalled I start a new game essentially.

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