Some Weapons mods are invisible.

[OfficialJulian]

I am new with modding fo4, but I've watched many tutorials of how to mod correctly.

Now I have the next issue, some of my weapons mods are invisible, they just don't show up in my hands.

 

But I this issue doesn't appear by every weapon mod.

The mods that worked for now are:

M2216 Standalone rifle

M1911 Standalone pistol

AK 47 Standalone

Spetsnatz Standalone rifle

HK USP .45

m1014

M82a3

SCAR-H (Final)

M14

Chines Assault Rifle

 

And the weapon mods that I would love to have, are having this issue.

Some examples:
Ru556 rifle

Ak400

G36 Complex

MP7

And many more

 

I tried to following things that people said:

Changing my "Virtual Folder"

Adding lines to my Fallout4(custom).ini

Running NMM as administrator

Manual install

 

I hope that someone can give me the fix for this issue :sleep:

Edited September 4, 2019 by OfficialJulian

[Glass1411]

Hello OfficalJulian,

 

Did you remember to edit and add these lines in your Fallout4.ini (These edits are needed in order for Fallout 4 to use some mods)

[Archive]

sResourceDataDirsFinal= (Edit this line in the Fallout4.ini to look like this)

bInvalidateOlderFiles=1 (Add this line to your Fallout4.ini)

The reason I'm saying to edit and add to your Fallout4.ini and not your Fallout4Custom.ini is because some mods such as Scrap Everything will add their own .ini files into your Fallout4/Data folder, these ini's will override your Fallout4Custom.ini.

[bbiller]

Do remember sometimes the only way to get things to work is to add them in manually.

 

You'll still want to make sure the mod is listed correctly in the plugins list, but your mod manager can help with that.

 

Also note: If your mod has assets for the textures (a ba2 file), the manager may not have added it in, you can manually add it in though if needed, I've had to do that to get some things visible. The weapon would be on my hotkey list and my character would act like they were holding something and I could fire it, but nothing visible. Once the file was moved in, all was well.

[OfficialJulian]

Hello OfficalJulian,

 

Did you remember to edit and add these lines in your Fallout4.ini (These edits are needed in order for Fallout 4 to use some mods)

[Archive]

sResourceDataDirsFinal= (Edit this line in the Fallout4.ini to look like this)

bInvalidateOlderFiles=1 (Add this line to your Fallout4.ini)

 

The reason I'm saying to edit and add to your Fallout4.ini and not your Fallout4Custom.ini is because some mods such as Scrap Everything will add their own .ini files into your Fallout4/Data folder, these ini's will override your Fallout4Custom.ini.

unfortunately didn't work

[OfficialJulian]

Do remember sometimes the only way to get things to work is to add them in manually.

 

You'll still want to make sure the mod is listed correctly in the plugins list, but your mod manager can help with that.

 

Also note: If your mod has assets for the textures (a ba2 file), the manager may not have added it in, you can manually add it in though if needed, I've had to do that to get some things visible. The weapon would be on my hotkey list and my character would act like they were holding something and I could fire it, but nothing visible. Once the file was moved in, all was well.

Also didn't work :/

[G4M3W1NN3R]

i am going to assume your game is having trouble loading ba2 archives, given the fact that the weapon mods you listed that work, are all loose files, where as the ones that don't are all packed in ba2 archives.

 

i am also going to assume you are using Mod Organizer.

 

i would suggest, manually downloading said weapons mods that dont work (or simply locate where they are downloaded, and extract their contents), and copying their contents into fallout 4 data folder.

 

by default it is installed to this location --> C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\

 

place the mods into the *Data* Folder (Ba2 Archives and ESP files)

 

 

what is happening is the ESP is being loaded (so the weapons exist in game), but not the Ba2 archives, which contains the meshes and textures for the weapons.

 

 

if the above does not apply, then you may have insufficient hardware resources to load the much higher quality weapons.

 

Example: the m2216 weapon mod (that works for you) is probably 1k resolution or lower

 

where as the Ru556 mod (that does not work for you) is 2k or 4k resolution, depending on which version is downloaded, these are much higher quality and thus require more hardware resources.

 

Insufficient hardware resources can result in either graphical glitches, or the invisible textures/meshes, (among other issues i dont need to mention).

 

Note: hardware resources in this case refeers to the GPU Memory

 

 

Note: if this is hardware related, i strongly suggest getting a hardware monitoring tool, such as Msi Afterburner, so you can see exactly how much resources you have aswell as how much is being used. windows also comes with its own resource monitoring tool. i personally prefer Msi Afterburner however (the included Rivatuner monitoring tool)

 

lastly, what is your hardware specs ? <-- to help determine if this is indeed an hardware related issue or not, if it is, can you also your post load order as well. so we can get an idea on how demanding your setup is, and likewise offer suggestions to make it less demanding so you can get the mods you want working, again if this is indeed a hardware related issue.

Edited August 31, 2019 by G4M3W1NN3R

[OfficialJulian]

i am going to assume your game is having trouble loading ba2 archives, given the fact that the weapon mods you listed that work, are all loose files, where as the ones that don't are all packed in ba2 archives.

 

i am also going to assume you are using Mod Organizer.

 

i would suggest, manually downloading said weapons mods that dont work (or simply locate where they are downloaded, and extract their contents), and copying their contents into fallout 4 data folder.

 

by default it is installed to this location --> C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\

 

place the mods into the *Data* Folder (Ba2 Archives and ESP files)

 

 

what is happening is the ESP is being loaded (so the weapons exist in game), but not the Ba2 archives, which contains the meshes and textures for the weapons.

 

 

if the above does not apply, then you may have insufficient hardware resources to load the much higher quality weapons.

 

Example: the m2216 weapon mod (that works for you) is probably 1k resolution or lower

 

where as the Ru556 mod (that does not work for you) is 2k or 4k resolution, depending on which version is downloaded, these are much higher quality and thus require more hardware resources.

 

Insufficient hardware resources can result in either graphical glitches, or the invisible textures/meshes, (among other issues i dont need to mention).

 

Note: hardware resources in this case refeers to the GPU Memory

 

 

Note: if this is hardware related, i strongly suggest getting a hardware monitoring tool, such as Msi Afterburner, so you can see exactly how much resources you have aswell as how much is being used. windows also comes with its own resource monitoring tool. i personally prefer Msi Afterburner however (the included Rivatuner monitoring tool)

 

lastly, what is your hardware specs ? <-- to help determine if this is indeed an hardware related issue or not, if it is, can you also your post load order as well. so we can get an idea on how demanding your setup is, and likewise offer suggestions to make it less demanding so you can get the mods you want working, again if this is indeed a hardware related issue.

Sorry for my late response, it was a busy week

 

RAM: 6 GB

Processor: amd a8-7410 apu with amd radeon r5 graphics 2.20 GHZ

Hard drive space: 224 GB (1 TB external)

OS: Windows 10 Home

 

If this is what you mean?

 

Further I have updated my post with mods that are also just working fine.

 

What did you exactly mean with "Load Order"? You mean the Load Order section in "Plugins" in NMM

 

Also, manual downloading didn't work.

 

Right now it looks like weapon mods under the 50 mb work, if their above the 50 mb they are invisible.

Edited September 5, 2019 by OfficialJulian

[G4M3W1NN3R]

i just done a bit of research on your system, and the conclusion is, the amd radion r5 is quite an old subpar card, so i would wager, your card simply is not good enough to run 2k - 4k mods.

 

it only has 4 gb of ddr3 memory, which is not fast enough or big enough to run ultra hd graphics

 

2k - 4k resolution requires at least 6GB - 8GB of GPU Memory Respectively, ideally DDR5 GPU Memory, which is much faster then ddr3. (GPU Memory speed is far more important and makes a much bigger impact on performance, then system ram, with regards to gaming, especially games that heavily use the GPU, which fallout 4 does)

 

so i would assume your laptop is pretty old. the GPU is an entry level card, so it is definitely not designed and definitely wont run SHD or ULTRA HD graphics. (basically your laptop is not a gaming laptop by any means)

 

AS for CPU, yea...not good.

 

your laptop is designed for general tasks, not gaming, which means you will have to seriously make the game look bad, if you want these mods to work. starting with lowering the settings to low. even then it will just be redundant by the time you get them working. as it will be like having a single high quality item over everything else being much lower quality, which will inevitably make that single high quality item look bad. now with regards to function, the weapons mods that do work will be sufficient, if you are trying to get the mods that dont work, work, because you like the look of them, what will be required to get them to work, will inevitably make them look bad. so in that case, i would just skip them.

 

Continued - (Click on the Word *Show* to view content, all information is relevant)

 

 

believe it or not, Fallout 4 whilst old, is quite a demanding game. especially modded. heavily modded will make even the most powerful of machines sweat.

 

 

As for load order, yea, the plugins list.

 

this would be easier to share, if you have a lot of mods, else if you only have a few mods, simply listing them would be sufficient.

 

so the conclusion is, you are most likely very easily reaching your hardware resources limit, which is why you cannot run ultra hd mods.

 

All mods you listed that work are low quality (1k or less)

 

All mods you listed that do not work, are high quality (2k or 4k)

 

which can only mean insufficiant memory, which is true, as you only have 4GB of DDR3 Memory for your GPU

 

 

Lastly judging by your primary post, you are literally only running weapon mods, no other mod at all, is this true ?

 

 

now you can optimize the game, but this requires severely lowering the quality of the game, as well as potentionally destroying the quality of the weapons.

 

so first, put all settings to low, in the fallout 4 launcher settings if not done so already, secondly you can get tools that optimize the textures of said weapons that dont work, now this part is risky, as you could potentially completely destroy the quality of said weapons. if said weapons are already optimized, then further optimizing them, could cause rainbow textures (which is not good at all) <-- doing this will lower the overall hardware resource usage, which should give you enough resources to run the weapon mods that previously did not work, however bare in mind, that other tasks also use the GPU resources so you still may not have enough resources to run them, even with the game completely set to low quality.

 

and finally, both CPU and GPU are incredibly important when it comes to unison, if 1 is weaker then the other, it will destroy the overall performance, both the CPU and GPU you have are subpar, which realistically is designed to run games at low - medium settings.

 

Computers are very similiar to the human body, everything must be top notch to cause overall optimal performance.

 

CPU = the Brain

 

GPU = Vision (Eyes)

 

if the CPU (Brain) does not send information to the GPU (Eyes) quick enough it will cause sub-optimal performance (in most cases, Bottleneck).

 

Edited September 6, 2019 by G4M3W1NN3R

[OfficialJulian]

i just done a bit of research on your system, and the conclusion is, the amd radion r5 is quite an old subpar card, so i would wager, your card simply is not good enough to run 2k - 4k mods.

 

it only has 4 gb of ddr3 memory, which is not fast enough or big enough to run ultra hd graphics

 

2k - 4k resolution requires at least 6GB - 8GB of GPU Memory Respectively, ideally DDR5 GPU Memory, which is much faster then ddr3. (GPU Memory speed is far more important and makes a much bigger impact on performance, then system ram, with regards to gaming, especially games that heavily use the GPU, which fallout 4 does)

 

so i would assume your laptop is pretty old. the GPU is an entry level card, so it is definitely not designed and definitely wont run SHD or ULTRA HD graphics. (basically your laptop is not a gaming laptop by any means)

 

AS for CPU, yea...not good.

 

your laptop is designed for general tasks, not gaming, which means you will have to seriously make the game look bad, if you want these mods to work. starting with lowering the settings to low. even then it will just be redundant by the time you get them working. as it will be like having a single high quality item over everything else being much lower quality, which will inevitably make that single high quality item look bad. now with regards to function, the weapons mods that do work will be sufficient, if you are trying to get the mods that dont work, work, because you like the look of them, what will be required to get them to work, will inevitably make them look bad. so in that case, i would just skip them.

 

Continued - (Click on the Word *Show* to view content, all information is relevant)

 

 

believe it or not, Fallout 4 whilst old, is quite a demanding game. especially modded. heavily modded will make even the most powerful of machines sweat.

 

 

As for load order, yea, the plugins list.

 

this would be easier to share, if you have a lot of mods, else if you only have a few mods, simply listing them would be sufficient.

 

so the conclusion is, you are most likely very easily reaching your hardware resources limit, which is why you cannot run ultra hd mods.

 

All mods you listed that work are low quality (1k or less)

 

All mods you listed that do not work, are high quality (2k or 4k)

 

which can only mean insufficiant memory, which is true, as you only have 4GB of DDR3 Memory for your GPU

 

 

Lastly judging by your primary post, you are literally only running weapon mods, no other mod at all, is this true ?

 

 

now you can optimize the game, but this requires severely lowering the quality of the game, as well as potentionally destroying the quality of the weapons.

 

so first, put all settings to low, in the fallout 4 launcher settings if not done so already, secondly you can get tools that optimize the textures of said weapons that dont work, now this part is risky, as you could potentially completely destroy the quality of said weapons. if said weapons are already optimized, then further optimizing them, could cause rainbow textures (which is not good at all) <-- doing this will lower the overall hardware resource usage, which should give you enough resources to run the weapon mods that previously did not work, however bare in mind, that other tasks also use the GPU resources so you still may not have enough resources to run them, even with the game completely set to low quality.

 

and finally, both CPU and GPU are incredibly important when it comes to unison, if 1 is weaker then the other, it will destroy the overall performance, both the CPU and GPU you have are subpar, which realistically is designed to run games at low - medium settings.

 

Computers are very similiar to the human body, everything must be top notch to cause overall optimal performance.

 

CPU = the Brain

 

GPU = Vision (Eyes)

 

if the CPU (Brain) does not send information to the GPU (Eyes) quick enough it will cause sub-optimal performance (in most cases, Bottleneck).

 

Well, this laptop was first for school, but then I didn't need him so start using him for games.

It is indeed a bad laptop for games but I will buy soon a new one.

 

I am not using only weapon mods, my goal was to make it a war game, with like Modern weapons and Modern Outfits.

 

Here is my Load order:

 

https://prnt.sc/p2ioek

 

But I have another question, if my laptop can't handle some mods cuz of their textures, Shouldn't I just see them but with having lagg?

Or is that a stupid question? Another guy said that even if my laptop can't handle the mods cuz of the textures that I still should see them but with having lagg

I hope you understand the question, my English is not that good.

 

Also, do you recommend nice Modern Weapon mods that my laptop can handle?

 

And thanks for you help so far, I really appreciate it :happy:

Edited September 6, 2019 by OfficialJulian

[G4M3W1NN3R]

 

Well, this laptop was first for school, but then I didn't need him so start using him for games.

It is indeed a bad laptop for games but I will buy soon a new one.

 

I am not using only weapon mods, my goal was to make it a war game, with like Modern weapons and Modern Outfits.

 

Here is my Load order:

 

https://prnt.sc/p2ioek

 

But I have another question, if my laptop can't handle some mods cuz of their textures, Shouldn't I just see them but with having lagg?

Or is that a stupid question? Another guy said that even if my laptop can't handle the mods cuz of the textures that I still should see them but with having lagg

I hope you understand the question, my English is not that good.

 

Also, do you recommend nice Modern Weapon mods that my laptop can handle?

 

And thanks for you help so far, I really appreciate it :happy:

 

"But I have another question, if my laptop can't handle some mods cuz of their textures, Shouldn't I just see them but with having lagg?"

 

yes and no, it really depends on other demands on the hardware, for example, if your hardware simply does not have enough resources, then it will fail to render the item in question, which is what i believe is happening here (invisible weapons)

 

their is 3 possible outcomes that can come from insufficient resources, 1. render + lag (the item will render, but severe lag will come from it), 2. no render at all (invisible) depending on exactly how demanding the item in question is, since your hardware is old and subpar, the second outcome is much more likely.

 

and finally the third outcome, will be CTD, BSOD and other serious hardware based issues, luckily you have not encountered these, so yea these are all possible outcomes from insufficient resources.

 

so as you can see, their is many possible outcomes from the same issue.

 

"Also, do you recommend nice Modern Weapon mods that my laptop can handle?"

 

i can recommend all sorts of mods, including modern weapons, however, i have a very powerful machine, and likewise all mods i run are of the highest quality, so i cant recommend them at the moment, however if and when you get a more powerful machine, let me know, and then i will happily recommend mods for you

 

also your english is perfectly fine.

 

i am happy to help :smile:

Edited September 6, 2019 by G4M3W1NN3R