A New President for the United States

[gandalftw]

Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin',Into the future.

What Obamas election means to me is how far humanity has come from the very first human,who had humanities first conscious thought,to this very second that i am typing these words.The wave we are all riding at this very second is the same wave that the first conscious thought produced so many millions of years ago.What i find so elegant about his election is that it suggests that this wave we're riding is one of truth and is born out of humanities conscious concern for change that is in accord with justice.Obamas point in time is just one small point in an ever continuous movement toward a fate that is unknowable and we are only given small glimpses of what might be in our very short lifespans.Of course there are so many injustices one can point to in our world today that can obscure the smaller events that take place every second of every day.These smaller events,to my mind,are are the producers of change.These smaller events,i believe,more accurately describe where humanity is heading.

Someone mentioned Rosa Parks,her split second decision to refuse to move to another seat was but a small event,yet that decision had a huge effect on the consciousness of those living at that same point of time as she.

True empathy and open mindedness are the gifts of mind that could continue our journey toward a more just and enlightened future.The opposite,to humanities demise.

[exanimis]

Rosa Parks didn't refuse to move to another seat. The bus was full and the white man thought it was his right to sit and told the first black person he saw to give up their seat. When we hear about those types of events we are shocked and disgusted. But we should realize that it was a different time with different beliefs and morals. When Hitler was elected, the German people didn't just become evil Jew hating Monsters over night, they thought that he was doing a good job. The average German citizen had no idea what was going on behind the scene. It was what was supposed to be done, the law said to report jews and the people did what their government wanted.

 

Obama has been elected and is our new President. I am proud to live in an America in a time when racial hatred and bigotry are in such a low state, a time when a man can get a job, ride a bus, buy a house and even become president regardless or without consideration of to what race he was born into. At the same time I have fears. Any bad publicity, any comment made against him will be viewed as racism. To come on this thread ans state that you don't like him for any reason will be viewed as racism. The secret service guards the president and every president is threatened some are attacked but a threat to Obama or an attempt on his life will be seen as a racial attack. I remember segregation, I remember the first black kid to go to school with me. I have witnessed most of the events that you call history. I remember a time when race didn't much matter and then OJ Simpson went on trial. That trial did more to destroy race relations than any one single event in history. It undid years of racial equality. Blacks saw it as an attack on a black man, whites saw it as an injustice. neither is right. It was a.n attack on the American people and we allowed it.

 

We don't hate each other because of the color of our skins. Who can control what color we will be born?

 

Maybe you have heard the phrase "People shouldn't be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of the people" I believe this statement should be true but their is another that much better fits the governments control of the American people.

 

Divide and conquer. As long as we argue about republicans and democrats, as long as we use words and phrases like angel, we are divided and can not stand united against any government.

 

 

I was with some friends the other day and they were talking about how all these mexicans have come here and taken all the good jobs. I remember white men standing around talking the same thing about blacks. My friends that were discussing that are black.

[wasder]

Rosa Parks didn't refuse to move to another seat. The bus was full and the white man thought it was his right to sit and told the first black person he saw to give up their seat. When we hear about those types of events we are shocked and disgusted. But we should realize that it was a different time with different beliefs and morals. When Hitler was elected, the German people didn't just become evil Jew hating Monsters over night, they thought that he was doing a good job. The average German citizen had no idea what was going on behind the scene. It was what was supposed to be done, the law said to report jews and the people did what their government wanted.

 

Obama has been elected and is our new President. I am proud to live in an America in a time when racial hatred and bigotry are in such a low state, a time when a man can get a job, ride a bus, buy a house and even become president regardless or without consideration of to what race he was born into. At the same time I have fears. Any bad publicity, any comment made against him will be viewed as racism. To come on this thread ans state that you don't like him for any reason will be viewed as racism. The secret service guards the president and every president is threatened some are attacked but a threat to Obama or an attempt on his life will be seen as a racial attack. I remember segregation, I remember the first black kid to go to school with me. I have witnessed most of the events that you call history. I remember a time when race didn't much matter and then OJ Simpson went on trial. That trial did more to destroy race relations than any one single event in history. It undid years of racial equality. Blacks saw it as an attack on a black man, whites saw it as an injustice. neither is right. It was a.n attack on the American people and we allowed it.

 

We don't hate each other because of the color of our skins. Who can control what color we will be born?

 

Maybe you have heard the phrase "People shouldn't be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of the people" I believe this statement should be true but their is another that much better fits the governments control of the American people.

 

Divide and conquer. As long as we argue about republicans and democrats, as long as we use words and phrases like angel, we are divided and can not stand united against any government.

 

 

I was with some friends the other day and they were talking about how all these mexicans have come here and taken all the good jobs. I remember white men standing around talking the same thing about blacks. My friends that were discussing that are black.

People who would call you a rascist for not liking Obama are probably not worth listening to. And I can tell you, I would much rather have Obama than the pick we have over here. That git David Cameron is most likely going to win the next election so god help us all. Gordon Brown is a bungler and er.. I can't remember the other guy's name. That sums him up. Forgettable.

[gandalftw]

Rosa Parks didn't refuse to move to another seat. The bus was full and the white man thought it was his right to sit and told the first black person he saw to give up their seat. When we hear about those types of events we are shocked and disgusted. But we should realize that it was a different time with different beliefs and morals. When Hitler was elected, the German people didn't just become evil Jew hating Monsters over night, they thought that he was doing a good job. The average German citizen had no idea what was going on behind the scene. It was what was supposed to be done, the law said to report jews and the people did what their government wanted.

 

Obama has been elected and is our new President. I am proud to live in an America in a time when racial hatred and bigotry are in such a low state, a time when a man can get a job, ride a bus, buy a house and even become president regardless or without consideration of to what race he was born into. At the same time I have fears. Any bad publicity, any comment made against him will be viewed as racism. To come on this thread ans state that you don't like him for any reason will be viewed as racism. The secret service guards the president and every president is threatened some are attacked but a threat to Obama or an attempt on his life will be seen as a racial attack. I remember segregation, I remember the first black kid to go to school with me. I have witnessed most of the events that you call history. I remember a time when race didn't much matter and then OJ Simpson went on trial. That trial did more to destroy race relations than any one single event in history. It undid years of racial equality. Blacks saw it as an attack on a black man, whites saw it as an injustice. neither is right. It was a.n attack on the American people and we allowed it.

 

We don't hate each other because of the color of our skins. Who can control what color we will be born?

 

Maybe you have heard the phrase "People shouldn't be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of the people" I believe this statement should be true but their is another that much better fits the governments control of the American people.

 

Divide and conquer. As long as we argue about republicans and democrats, as long as we use words and phrases like angel, we are divided and can not stand united against any government.

 

 

I was with some friends the other day and they were talking about how all these mexicans have come here and taken all the good jobs. I remember white men standing around talking the same thing about blacks. My friends that were discussing that are black.

Thanks for correcting me on my statement regarding Rosa Parks.

I too grew up in a segregated society,in my early years i lived in Tennessee,Louisiana and Texas until the age of eighteen.Only whites went to the schools i attended in Tennessee and Louisiana.I remember seeing the whites only signs,in the downtown areas,on restroom doors and water fountains.No coloreds signs on restaurants and bars.In Texas there were no signs but there was an understanding that people of other races had their own establishments and their own side of town.I went to school with Mexicans in Texas but Blacks had their own schools that were poorly funded and lacked up to date books.I remember one time my mother hired a Black lady to babysit my brother,sister and i and she decided to take us to the movies.She took us to a Black movie theater for she wouldn't be allowed in anywhere else.Everyone there was friendly and curious about the only White kids

in the place.Kids waved and shyly smiled at us.I remember having a hard time watching the movie for i had so many questions running through my mind.This was the first time i had ever been around Black kids and i couldn't understand why that was.

 

The Oj Simpson trial was quite damaging and i believe that the courts were afraid of what would happen if he were convicted.

 

When in my teens i became quite the idealist.I wholeheartedly joined the Hippie movement for i believed that the efforts,up to that time,to bring about social change were just too slow.My idealist reading and philosophical interests had me convinced that a major revolution was inevitable.If the Government couldn't get things done the young people,of all races of the world,would.

However naive my expectations were of this great coming revolution,i still believe that the 60s and 70s had a huge effect on raising social consciousness around the world.The changes that occurred during those years were swept up and have become part of that wave of change that still continues on toward a new world.I never lost my idealism,tho i have altered my expectations.I've realized that change comes slowly because individuals need time to adapt to new ways of thinking.One needs time to deal with ones conditioning,to struggle with ones illusions for it is my belief that no one grows up in this world free of these qualities or defects of mind.I know that i've dealt with plenty of illusions and still have more to realize.The struggle toward enlightenment not only brings a deeper truth into ones life but also has the added benefit of changing ones world for the better.If just one person of another race or nationality,after an encounter,walks away thinking,Hmm that white guy or that American is not so bad,i've created a small ripple in that metaphorical wave of change.

[PrideAssassin]

I doubt He will be remembered more than Martin luther King. Obama will be remembered. Partly because he's going to be president, and partly because of what he symbolises. That a black man has become president of the US is something quite amazing to those who can remember segregation and Jim Crow laws and all that. He will be remembered by black americans at least, whatever happens.

Less because of Jim Crow and segregation, because that is the norm the world over. To this day, many societies are segregated. More because no nation has ever had a minority of a different race from the majority lead them. Not even "Oh, we're so progressive, you troglodytes" Europe.

I still don't believe his election was legitimate. I never will.

After the last decade or so, I've had trouble believing ANY election is legitimate.

All hail the mighty Rebublicrats!