Trying to resolve mod conflicts and strangeness

[rarborman]

Ok here the deal I've been slowly picking up mods for about a month and after just recently getting hearthfire received my first crash upon load...

 

I proceeded to root out 3 mods that were not hearthfire compatable and updated or removed them and the crash stopped, but I noticed I couldn't build the first home I was given as a quest, dawnstar's #3 byohhouse I then worked my way through from removing all and slowly re-adding my mods and pluggins until I rooted out another that when removed let me build up to the small house sort of consistant enough to get everything to build without having to reload from pervious more then maybe 2 times, then I deside I wanted to make the house bigger and besides not being able to build the damn mainhall exterior parts, because the interior sure is there, even with no mods (chalk it up as a hearthfire bug) does thend to break immersion.

 

So having half my house in a temporal nowhere I desided to see if this was just my save buggered, started up a new save, watched the into and due to having scenic carages from pre hearthfire it desides to go and flip the wagon, shoot the wagon into a spiral vortex of terror and generally just not get through the damn thing, after I dont even know how many tries and how much console working (appearently the timing is also off as well because it takes several minutes for people to do parts in the script and alsuin shows up like 5 minutes after they thow me on the block and let me get back up) I finally get to the scripted character scene (because I appearently cant figure out how to get to through without it besides calling it up with the console but thats not the point) get in to the character menu and see a pair of races that are both almelexia and both buggered hardcore (I dont have new race mods I detest the races people deside to add) so no idea where those came from, go in and besides that and a few racial custom tints and such seams well enough... get through from there to outside and then proceed to dawnstar and console up some quest completes and (although I'm not sure how to properly trigger the hearthfire quests) get the letter and expect the jarl to act like normal and sell me the house... he doesnt so I peace out and try to get the quest to go past that and to the go to the land part, no dice cant figure out how hearthfire quests are worked, figure at this point it doesnt matter anymore and tellyport to all the hearthfire location and recieve a crash at I think falcreath or whatever one is marked as spot 1...

 

Story aside, can someone more skilled (or not, I'd take anyone) help me figure out what is doing what in the following list? Some I could fix on my own if I could figure out where they come from.

 

Error list

Almalexia races

Croc leather armor with no texture

Crashing at hearthfire house locations

why spacecore no longer has sound

General noncompatabilities

 

Plugin Masters

Skyrim

Update

HearthFires

High res texture pack 01 and 02

 

Plugin esps with undecernable source

CELLADUPE

 

Pluggins from steam workshop (I'll make a steam collection if anyone wants)

1. Unofficial Skyrin Patch
   
2. Arrows Stick
   
3. Giant Giants and mammoth mammmoths
   
4. Fall of the space core, Vol. 1
   
5. Dwarven Luggage
   
6. Birds and flocks hearthfire edition
   
7. "blood on the ice" quest fix
   
8. True skyrim
   
9. Whiterun exterior enhanced V1.1
   
10. Towns and villages enhances; whiterun, riverwood, villages, (markarth+), Falkreath, riften, solitude, windhelm
    
11. Places hearthfire edition; Lainta dale, oakwood
    
12. the 418 step
    
13. static meash improvement mod - SMIM
    
14. thieves guild - chests closed
    
15. more village animals
    
16. RWB - realistic wolf behavior
    
17. HD plants and herbs
    
18. roject reality:climates of tamiel - lite version
    
19. Kontrol
    
20. No Auto-aim
    
21. flexible perk trees
    
22. killmoves - no blur
    
23. unlimited bookshelves
    
24. reduced distance npc greetings
    
25. skyfix
    
26. improved skill books
    
27. improved quest books
    
28. lighter dragon bones and scales
    
29. ring of namira fix
    
30. ash pile exspiration
    
31. the eyes of beauty
    
32. more argonian tints
    
33. khajiit "eye of fear"
    
34. skyrim player re-voiced elven races compilation
    
35. invested magic [current]
    
36. passive destruction fix
    
37. realistic lighting
    
38. inproved interior lighting (for realistic lighting)
    
39. skyrim immmersive scary dungeons
    
40. psychosteve's; dragonpriest masks, bust of the grey fox, stone of barenziah, golden gods shrines
    
41. HQ workbench and grindstone
    
42. daedric shield hi-res texture fix
    
43. kerplunk - watery rocks
    
44. better embers
    
45. better water
    
46. pure water
    
47. water fx - get wet
    
48. deeper snow (more snow)
    
49. thats ice
    
50. voidcraft optic nature pack
    
51. real mountains
    
52. chopping block woodfire fix
    
53. alternate sun glare
    
54. lush greens
    
55. riften jain bugfix
    
56. dwarven mechanical equipment
    
57. fur hoods HD
    
58. wear circlets with hoods
    
59. clothing and smithing pack
    
60. bandolier - bags and pouches
    
61. wanderer hoods
    
62. sabre gear backpack
    
63. upgrade lvled items
    
64. cheesecate armor & weapons
    
65. ghostlier ghostblade
    
66. dragon bone weapons complete
    
67. morrowind armor for skyrim standalone
    
68. bipolar blade
    
69. fang of haynokhtnamet
    
70. morrowind legendary wrings
    
71. house map markers by smakit
    
72. stones of barenziah quest map markers
    
73. skyforge map marker
    
74. water breathing breathless emerge
    
75. main menu theme from morrowind
    
76. SOS - dungeons, wilds, civilization
    
77. unread books glow
    
78. wearable lanterns
    
79. the dance of death - a killmove mod
    
80. chysamere
    
81. Quest; no mercy, the bigger, realms of daedra, sea of ghosts, sorcery, into the depths
    
82. build your own home
    
83. the secret of dragonhead
    
84. crab shelter
    

 

Plugin esps from nexus

1. 
    
   
2. additional war paints
   
3. alchemy organization
   
4. mixwaterwill
   
5. auto unequip arrows
   
6. shields_on_back
   
7. bluecreek estate
   
8. cerebral den
   
9. cloaks; no imperial, player only
   
10. daedric loard armor
    
11. selobl_darkLilith
    
12. domusmechanicus
    
13. dovahkiinrelax
    
14. DBArmor
    
15. dragonstand
    
16. DBset
    
17. Dwarvenfalls
    
18. dynamic fires
    
19. higherlevelenemies
    
20. ethereal elven overhaul
    
21. eye of the reach
    
22. chesko_frostfall
    
23. FSS-slight pause between lines
    
24. amberhalls heartwood village
    
25. improved container names
    
26. blocksparkles
    
27. 3DNPC
    
28. GM-khajiitDSHfix
    
29. lafemmelycana
    
30. lyn real arrows; no trails, no hit stereo effect, faster arrows
    
31. no DB mooks
    
32. dD-no spining death animation
    
33. NA trueflame_eng
    
34. headtracking
    
35. prowler
    
36. jackshkasumiarmor3
    
37. dD -realistic ragdoll force -realistic
    
38. reneerscrimeoverhaul
    
39. knc resiliant dragons
    
40. scenicCarriages
    
41. shields of skyrim
    
42. space wiking's dwelmer exoskeleton
    
43. theclockworkadventure
    
44. thief encounter fix
    
45. tools of kagrenac
    
46. unisex argonian hairstyles
    
47. unofficial hearthfire patch
    
48. rosarmor
    
49. r18pn -ardent iron armor -blessedbody
    
50. uskp_addon ENG
    
51. whiterun feild fix
    
52. winterlude's arrowsmithing mod
    
53. dragonplatehelmfix
    
54. hhbelethordialogfix
    
55. syrimfixes
    
56. atronachforgebootsfix
    
57. julesdisenchantgodamulets
    
58. VSC_the tesseract
    
59. weapons and armor fixes; -hacks
    
60. midasSkyrim
    
61. Shootingstars
    
62. WATER
    

 

(I could probably get links to all these together if needed)

[AnkhAscendant]

Given the first thing I noticed is that that isn't a BOSS mod list, I assume you aren't using it and it may help you. (It sorts your mods to a good load order [for instance, the Unofficial Patches should be right above the .esms for best compatibility], although you still have to tweak, and it can help you find conflicts and out-of-date mods).

 

I'm having trouble figuring out what exactly the problem is that you were wanting to find, since your story is full of problems, so I'm going to guess all of them ^^; Any problems in Helgen would probably be resolved by not activating any mods until after you get out onto the road to Riverwood; Helgen is really touchy with all the scripting, and things tend to break it, as you've seen.

 

About the custom races that you didn't intentionally download, I'm thinking that if you have installed a follower mod they might well have come with it (although I don't think I see any). It must have come with some NPC in another mod somewhere.

 

And finally about all the problems with Hearthfire, have you deactivated all mods completely and made a clean save and tried? I saw that you tried up there in the second paragraph, but that was I'm guessing on a save that had already started the quests with mods active, and it's always possible that made a difference, with something left over.

[IsharaMeradin]

your description of what happened when you tried a new game reminds me of some things that happened to me when I had too many mods installed. (Note that it was too many mods for my system to handle). If everything worked fine BEFORE adding Hearthfire then I'd suggest removing enough mods to compensate for the amount of added content.

 

However, there are several mods which have spawns in and around the points where the Hearthfire houses are located. Some may be documented regarding this, others possibly not. So you may want to test a new game without any mods that add in new spawns. If that still fails to work, cut back on the number of texture mods.

 

Utilize BOSS to get your mods into a decent load order, be sure to read up on and manually place any mods that BOSS doesn't know how to sort. Tho steam mods unfortunately don't follow proper load order as they stay in your subscribed order. I would almost recommend finding the Nexus equivalent to many of those mods.

 

I'd also suggest (and this does get tedious) to reboot your computer between sessions just to ensure that the computer's memory & caches are fully flushed. sometimes stuff does remain between game sessions, not stuff that would affect specific game play but stuff that would affect memory usage and thus screw up game play

 

-- my 2 cents

[Georgiegril]

Just to second Ishara's excellent advice...I(and Ankh's too :smile:) would go beyond "almost" recommending using the nexus for all of your mods. Because workshop mods update automatically, you can suddenly find yourself with crashes due to mod conflicts because the new version is not compatible with your game...and you might not have even noticed that particular mod got updated. And with the workshop, you can't go back to the older version that was working for you.