Deleted23099409User Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) before I start, sorry for my pool English grammar and not good talker Every body says Ulfric is Racism, but to me his more like... innocent bastard (He killed Torygg anyway.) When someone says Ulfric is racism I wonder, why he keep accept dunmer refugee. The only racism I see, it's SOME Stormcloaks soldiers and Galmar. It just my opinion. When I see Ulfric his speech hiding something, his courage came from... rush. You will know that as a Dovahkiin player, you can see all the evidence and clues everywhere. When you side with Imperial or Stormcloak, Ulfric keep saying about story... 'it will make better song...' something like this I'm no good talker but Ulfric, Want to come back as brother Nord and Fight for Nord, or Die by same Nord Hero, or be High King hide everything back. This man is Round Character. Every time I see him. He looks different. But no racism. Just no place in his heart to help other races. Innocent bastard.... Edited November 16, 2019 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadeybladey Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I don't hate Ulfric. And you are right, the racism mostly comes from other characters. There are some examples of racism and prejudice towards non-Nords, and Ulfric is the leader of a nationalist rebellion. Nationalism often leads to racism when it becomes too extreme. But Traitor or Freedom Fighter, Racist or Nationalist, that's for the Dovahkiin to decide as the story unfolds. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted21550714User Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 My character can walk from Windhelm to Markarth in a day. Being that the nords are so racist i'm surprised the dark elves set up and stayed in Windhelm. Fun Fact: there is no other city that has more non-humans than Windhelm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I do not hate Ulfric because he is racist. There's no real evidence of that, at least no more than anyone else in Tamriel. I hate Ulfric because he is a traitor, a hypocrite, and a demagogue. He betrayed the Greybeards, the Empire, and the Pact of Chieftans. He demands for his people the very thing he slaughtered others for demanding (the Reachmen). And he leads a cult of personality in a pointless civil war against his own people for the sake of his own pride and ego. Ulfric is everything wrong with Populism. Fun Fact: there is no other city that has more non-humans than Windhelm. I mean... you could say the same thing about Menzoberranzan and Neverwinter. There are twice as many non-Drow in Menzoberranzan as Drow, and it's population is far more diverse than the supposed multi-cultural hub of the northern Sword Coast. Except, the overwhelming majority of those non-Drow are slaves. Raw population stats don't indicate cultural or racial diversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted21550714User Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I do not hate Ulfric because he is racist. There's no real evidence of that, at least no more than anyone else in Tamriel. I hate Ulfric because he is a traitor, a hypocrite, and a demagogue. He betrayed the Greybeards, the Empire, and the Pact of Chieftans. He demands for his people the very thing he slaughtered others for demanding (the Reachmen). And he leads a cult of personality in a pointless civil war against his own people for the sake of his own pride and ego. Ulfric is everything wrong with Populism. Fun Fact: there is no other city that has more non-humans than Windhelm. I mean... you could say the same thing about Menzoberranzan and Neverwinter. There are twice as many non-Drow in Menzoberranzan as Drow, and it's population is far more diverse than the supposed multi-cultural hub of the northern Sword Coast. Except, the overwhelming majority of those non-Drow are slaves. Raw population stats don't indicate cultural or racial diversity. And are we under the impression the mean Nords are keeping them there? A days walk literally gets you anywhere from Windhelm. You do have a mad man running around killing women in Windhelm,but he's an Imperial. So a couple of Nords are douchebags, you seriously can't say the same for all other races,minus HighElf,there the worst times 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 A days walk literally gets you anywhere from Windhelm. You... you are aware that Skyrim is bigger in-universe, than it is in-game, right? It's at least the size of North Dakota, on the smallest estimates, or almost as big as Europe on the highest. A days walk gets you nowehre useful, least of all where you can survive. You might as well blame people living in the ghetto for not just leaving and moving somewhere nice. Based on Skyrim's demographics, the social divide between Nords and Non-Nords is strongest in Windhelm. You don't have to to be overtly racist to identify wider socioeconomic concerns which represent wider racial schisms. Does this mean the Dunmer and Argonians aren't part of the problem as well? Absolutely not. The Dunmer are extremely insular and xenophobic, and outright hostile to their neighbours in some cases. But simply hand waving away racism because there are more non-Nords in Whiterun than other cities, is frankly absurd. You might as well pretend Racism in Detroit isn't a problem because it's got the highest ratio of Blacks in the country. Absolute poppycock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofailed999 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 0ofric stinks. Never liked him. At all. Never. Don't like empire either. Stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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