90 second load times on vanilla ultra low settings please help!

[HairDiaper]

been having probblems with my skyrim lately. ive been having to wait upwards of 90 seconds going through any load door. no frame rate issues... just load times. ive tried new games, no mods even a complete re install but same thing. its made it all but unplayable and getting to the point where testing the mod im trying to make is becoming a chore in itself. if anyone has ANY ideas id really like to here cuz im out of them. i have skyrim for xbox too but im too used to the pc version and i dont want to go back lol... please help!

[Deleted3507349User]

Might try a defrag.

[PowderdToastMan]

The long load time means you have a very slow reading hard drive.

 

The only way to reduce it is to either buy a faster one or reduce the size of the file loading.

 

Go to your game saves and check the size of the files. If your game saves are anywhere between 4 and 10 megs then that is fairly normal. If your game saves are much larger then i would consider losing some mods...

 

I had similar issues with my old hard drive. I now use an SSD for my steam library and the load screen simply flashes before it loads.

[PowderdToastMan]

Also, install and run crystal disc mark. Its a program that will tell your the read and write speed of your hard drive.

 

Here is a link that shows my old HDD with a 30 second load time vs my new SSD.

 

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/108886-solid-state-hard-drives/page__view__findpost__p__4302990

[HairDiaper]

Might try a defrag.

 

i know it has nothing to do with my hard drive cuz new vagas on ultra with hd mods still only takes about 5 seconds. used to b able to run skyrim on a toned down ultra with about 10 hd texture replacers, open cities and my ugrids to load set to 7 and was only about a 5 to 10 sec load time. now its 90 secs on the lowest of low... and vanilla. im running a intel i7 3.2 with 12gb ram and a 2 gb geforce gtx 560 and a 7200 rpm hd linked with a sata3 connection. 90 seconds is just unreasonable

Edited November 1, 2012 by HairDiaper

[Georgiegril]

Digitaltrucker's advice, in my observation, is usually on target. PowderedToast, too. Whatever you can do one NewVegas is only tangentially related to what you can do on skyrim. For some reason, your hard drive is taking a lot longer than it use to to load the game. The only way to fix that is to figure out what is causing your hard drive to react so slowly (large loads, background programs running,especially browsers or scans, mods that spawn a lot of new critters or NPCs, game bloat...).

 

Now three people have given you pretty much the same advice. Obviously you are free to dismiss it, but if you try it, at least you can cross it off the list if it doesn't work. And trying it may save you even more time and frustration in trying to solve the problem.

[HairDiaper]

Might try a defrag.

 

i know it has nothing to do with my hard drive cuz new vagas on ultra with hd mods still only takes about 5 seconds. used to b able to run skyrim on a toned down ultra with about 10 hd texture replacers, open cities and my ugrids to load set to 7 and was only about a 5 to 10 sec load time. now its 90 secs on the lowest of low... and vanilla. im running a intel i7 3.2 with 12gb ram and a 2 gb geforce gtx 560 and a 7200 rpm hd linked with a sata3 connection. 90 seconds is just unreasonable

 

 

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.2 © 2007-2012 hiyohiyo

Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/

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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [sATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

 

Sequential Read : 149.094 MB/s

Sequential Write : 172.208 MB/s

Random Read 512KB : 38.354 MB/s

Random Write 512KB : 79.674 MB/s

Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 0.386 MB/s [ 94.2 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 1.154 MB/s [ 281.7 IOPS]

Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 0.969 MB/s [ 236.6 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 1.385 MB/s [ 338.2 IOPS]

 

Test : 1000 MB [C: 30.1% (233.6/775.2 GB)] (x5)

Date : 2012/11/02 3:48:24

OS : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)

 

 

heres my ini. :

 

[General]

sLanguage=ENGLISH

 

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

 

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

bAllowScreenshot=1

 

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

 

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass=1

bAllowLoadGrass=0

 

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

 

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

 

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

[Water]

bReflectLODObjects=1

bReflectLODLand=1

bReflectSky=0

bReflectLODTrees=1

 

 

heres my prefs ini. :

 

[General]

fBrightLightColorB=1.0000

fBrightLightColorG=1.0000

fBrightLightColorR=1.0000

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

[imagespace]

bDoDepthOfField=1

iRadialBlurLevel=1

[Display]

iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3

fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000

fShadowDistance=4000.0000

iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

iShadowSplitCount=2

iMaxAnisotropy=8

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=5000.0000

fGamma=1.0000

fDecalLOD2=1500.0000

fDecalLOD1=1000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade=1000.0000

fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000

fLightLODStartFade=2500.0000

iTexMipMapMinimum=0

iTexMipMapSkip=0

iWaterMultiSamples=0

iMultiSample=8

iShadowMode=3

bTreesReceiveShadows=0

bDrawLandShadows=0

bFull Screen=1

iSize H=1080

iSize W=1920

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000

iScreenShotIndex=2

bShadowMaskZPrepass=0

bMainZPrepass=0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=10

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=30

bFloatPointRenderTarget=0

sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 "

bFXAAEnabled=0

iShadowMapResolution=2048

fShadowBiasScale=0.2500

iShadowMaskQuarter=4

iAdapter=0

iPresentInterval=1

iShadowFilter=3

bShadowsOnGrass=1

bTransparencyMultisampling=0

bDeferredShadows=1

bDrawShadows=1

[Grass]

b30GrassVS=1

fGrassStartFadeDistance=5000.0000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000

[MAIN]

bGamepadEnable=1

bCrosshairEnabled=1

fHUDOpacity=1.0000

bSaveOnPause=1

bSaveOnTravel=1

bSaveOnWait=1

bSaveOnRest=1

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1

bShowQuestMarkers=1

iDifficulty=2

[interface]

bDialogueSubtitles=0

bGeneralSubtitles=0

fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

bShowCompass=1

[Controls]

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000

fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125

bAlwaysRunByDefault=1

bInvertYValues=0

bGamePadRumble=1

bMouseAcceleration=1

bUseKinect=0

[Particles]

iMaxDesired=750

[saveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000

fVal7=1.0000

uID7=0

fVal6=1.0000

uID6=0

fVal5=1.0000

uID5=0

fVal4=1.0000

uID4=0

fVal3=1.0000

uID3=94881

fVal2=0.4000

uID2=466532

fVal1=1.0000

uID1=554685

fVal0=0.8000

uID0=1007612

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance=40000.0000

fBlockMaximumDistance=150000.0000

fBlockLevel1Distance=40000.0000

fBlockLevel0Distance=25000.0000

fSplitDistanceMult=1.1000

bShowLODInEditor=0

[NavMesh]

fObstacleAlpha=0.5000

fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000

fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500

fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000

fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500

fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000

fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000

fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500

fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000

fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000

fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000

fEdgeThickness=10.0000

fPointSize=2.5000

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees=1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20

[Decals]

uMaxDecals=250

bDecals=1

bSkinnedDecals=1

uMaxSkinDecals=50

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultObjects=7.5000

fLODFadeOutMultItems=4.5000

fLODFadeOutMultActors=6.0000

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

[Launcher]

bEnableFileSelection=1

bShowAllResolutions=1

uLastAspectRatio=3

[blurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[blurShader]

bUseBlurShader=0

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight=512

iWaterReflectWidth=512

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

 

 

heres my loadorder txt.

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

[Elysarian]

I recall reading somewhere that long load times can be caused by having a framerate capper enabled in your drivers?

 

Not sure if this is the case for the OP and have no idea where such a setting would be in an ATI/AMD setup but in nVidia's control panel it's called "Vertical Sync" and can be found in the "Manage 3d Settings" pane (needs to be set to "off" or "Application Controlled" globally with the setting for Skyrim/Steam set to "use global setting").

 

there is the possibility that the OP is using some 3rd party software to do this too of course

Edited November 2, 2012 by Elysarian

[Georgiegril]

The framerate capper thing was if you have your fps capped at 30, moving it to 35 can prevent infinite loads, if that is your problem.

[HairDiaper]

ok just want to thank everyone who posted tying to help i really am gratefull. unless there was another update i missed... my probblem seemed to dissapear when put a blank line inbetween my Papyrus load sequence and my water load sequence. didnt think it was supposed to b like that... still dont know why it didnt change when i deleted originals and re-synced with steam maybe it was my cloud sync files that were the issue... but whatev! it even works better than it did before now with the ini tweeks i made to it lol! still have to adjust a bit but im liking it. just a few changes. the interface section changes how close ur health/stamina bars and compass are to the edge of ur screen. map menu section changes how close/far u can zoom with the map and also its speed! check this out i have:

 

"Ambient Occlusion" turned on in NVIDIA settings

 

"VSYNC" is forced off in both NVIDIA and Skyrim settings

 

"FXAA" turned on in Skyrim settings

 

"Bethesda Official Free HD Texture DLC" is left unchecked in load order.( u can even delete the esp.'s and just leave the bsa.'s in skyrim's data file lol)

 

and heres my ini.:

 

[General]

sLanguage=ENGLISH

 

uExterior Cell Buffer=64

uGridsToLoad=7

 

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

bAllowScreenshot=1

iPresentInterval=0

fDefaultWorldFOV=90

fDefault1stPersonFOV=90

fSunShadowUpdateTime=1.000

fSunUpdateThreshold=0.500

 

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

 

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass=1

bAllowLoadGrass=0

 

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa, HighResTexturePack01.bsa, HighResTexturePack02.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

 

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

 

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

 

[Water]

bReflectLODObjects=1

bReflectLODLand=1

bReflectSky=1

bReflectLODTrees=1

 

[interface]

fSafeZoneX=15

fSafeZoneY=15

fSafeZoneXWide=15

fSafeZoneYWide=15

 

[MapMenu]

uLockedObjectMapLOD=8

uLockedTerrainLOD=8

fMapWorldMaxHeight=150000.0000

fMapWorldMinHeight=1500.0000

fMapWorldZoomSpeed=0.0800

 

 

and heres my prefs:

 

[General]

fBrightLightColorB=1.0000

fBrightLightColorG=1.0000

fBrightLightColorR=1.0000

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

[imagespace]

bDoDepthOfField=1

iRadialBlurLevel=2

fDefaultFOV=90

[Display]

iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3

fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000

fShadowDistance=8000.0000

iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=4096

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=4096

iShadowSplitCount=2

iMaxAnisotropy=16

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=5000.0000

fGamma=1.0000

fDecalLOD2=1500.0000

fDecalLOD1=1000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade=1500.0000

fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000

fLightLODStartFade=3500.0000

iTexMipMapMinimum=0

iTexMipMapSkip=0

iWaterMultiSamples=0

iMultiSample=8

iShadowMode=3

bTreesReceiveShadows=1

bDrawLandShadows=1

bFull Screen=1

iSize H=1080

iSize W=1920

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096.0000

iScreenShotIndex=2

bShadowMaskZPrepass=0

bMainZPrepass=0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100

bFloatPointRenderTarget=0

sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 "

bFXAAEnabled=1

iShadowMapResolution=4096

fShadowBiasScale=0.1500

iShadowMaskQuarter=4

iAdapter=0

iPresentInterval=1

iShadowFilter=3

bShadowsOnGrass=1

bTransparencyMultisampling=0

bDeferredShadows=1

bDrawShadows=1

[Grass]

b30GrassVS=1

fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000

[MAIN]

bGamepadEnable=1

bCrosshairEnabled=0

fHUDOpacity=1.0000

bSaveOnPause=1

bSaveOnTravel=1

bSaveOnWait=1

bSaveOnRest=1

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=0

bShowQuestMarkers=1

iDifficulty=2

[interface]

bDialogueSubtitles=0

bGeneralSubtitles=0

fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

bShowCompass=1

[Controls]

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000

fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125

bAlwaysRunByDefault=1

bInvertYValues=0

bGamePadRumble=1

bMouseAcceleration=1

bUseKinect=0

[Particles]

iMaxDesired=750

[saveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000

fVal7=1.0000

uID7=0

fVal6=1.0000

uID6=0

fVal5=1.0000

uID5=0

fVal4=1.0000

uID4=0

fVal3=1.0000

uID3=94881

fVal2=0.4000

uID2=466532

fVal1=1.0000

uID1=554685

fVal0=0.8000

uID0=1007612

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance=40000.0000

fBlockMaximumDistance=150000.0000

fBlockLevel1Distance=40000.0000

fBlockLevel0Distance=25000.0000

fSplitDistanceMult=1.1000

bShowLODInEditor=0

[NavMesh]

fObstacleAlpha=0.5000

fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000

fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500

fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000

fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500

fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000

fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000

fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500

fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000

fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000

fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000

fEdgeThickness=10.0000

fPointSize=2.5000

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees=1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20

[Decals]

uMaxDecals=1000

bDecals=1

bSkinnedDecals=1

uMaxSkinDecals=100

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=60

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultObjects=15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultItems=15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultActors=15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

[Launcher]

bEnableFileSelection=1

bShowAllResolutions=1

uLastAspectRatio=3

[blurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[blurShader]

bUseBlurShader=0

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight=512

iWaterReflectWidth=512

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

Edited November 8, 2012 by HairDiaper