stebbinsd Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 This is one of the most polarizing decisions in all of Skyrim. I have sided with the Stormcloaks ever since the game's 11/11/11 release, and in my latest youtube video, I'd like to explain in great detail why I feel that way. I hope you all enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorKaizeld Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 If the Stormcloaks win the empire will fall and the dominion will win. If the dominion wins they will conduct a total genocide of all humans and destroy the world of Tamriel. Whether or not the nords are right to turn against the empire doesn't matter in the grand scheme, the empire must survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stebbinsd Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 If the Stormcloaks win the empire will fall and the dominion will win. If the dominion wins they will conduct a total genocide of all humans and destroy the world of Tamriel. Whether or not the nords are right to turn against the empire doesn't matter in the grand scheme, the empire must surviveYou clearly did not watch the video at all. If you did, you'd know I addressed that specific argument in the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorKaizeld Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I did not, just don't have the ability to do so currently and I'm always down for a loregument when it comes to Elder Scrolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stebbinsd Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 I did not, just don't have the ability to do so currently and I'm always down for a loregument when it comes to Elder ScrollsI will not reply to anything you say that I've already refuted in the OP, so take it or leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorKaizeld Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Not open to discussion then... sad day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stebbinsd Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 I'm open to discussion. i'm just not open to repeating myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legedur Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Thanks for the video. I agree completely. The issue of "if you don't support the Empire, the Aldmeri will win", is a false argument, if you just see the map of the lost territory of the empire in your video, think of the appeasement policy towards the Aldmeri (=weakness and inability to fight them which dates long before the Stormcloak rebellion) and the inability to crush the Stormcloak rebellion itself. Calling it the "Empire" with capital E and hoping that this "empire" has any chance of winning against the Thalmor, is just as funny as hoping that the roman empire of 472 AD, had any chance of recovering the lost territories or any connection to the glorious days of the Trajan Roman empire (100 AD). The Empire is "finished". It's an empire only by name. I will tell you more... Once the Stormcloak win, there is nothing stopping both sides, of forming a mutual defense pact, as independent states against the event of Thalmor attack. That's realpolitik. Even better, maybe the "empire" should wake up and smell the coffee and join a new empire under the guidance of the Nords, who certainly seem more more battleworthy and determined to fight, than the destitute empire. Heck, Ulfric knows "unrelenting Force" shout, which is more than what anyone from the "empire" can say. Disclaimer: I 've been playing the game for years, but haven't finished it yet, because i keep restarting with new mods. So i don't know how it all ends. But, what always bothered me with the "dilemma" of "whose side the Dragonborn should take" in relation to the fate of the land towards the Thalmor, was: "Does it matter? I am the Dragonborn. If the Thalmor attack, the side i will be fighting with, will win, regardless of being Stormcloaks or Imperials". Unless of course by the endgame the Dragonborn ascends to some powerless spiritual form (please don't spoil it for me), where he can't affect the outcome of a future war anymore. Otherwise, i say: "Let the Thalmor come. I will crush them and my faction will win anyway". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stebbinsd Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) Legedur, thank you so much! Might I encourage you to subscribe for more videos like this one? I've already got a whole backlog of these types of videos that you can binge-watch if you like! Here's a playlist of some of my best work to get you started: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpL3n7W6QqgD8E8s9lrCD6ysUjYJV8bd0 Edited January 12, 2020 by stebbinsd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stebbinsd Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 Unless of course by the endgame the Dragonborn ascends to some powerless spiritual form (please don't spoil it for me),I will not spoil it for you, but the climax of the main quest does take place in the afterlife! What exactly that entails, I will not reveal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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