Non Steam copy of a Steam exclusive game

[Eckss]

The point made is that Marx's views about "lesser races" were fairly typical of the times in which he lived and of "Western" society generally; such attitudes were not uncommon by any means, though Sperber does see this as extreme. No hint of extermination or "purifying the proletariat", as you put it, though.

Please don't try to apologise for these "people" - they don't deserve it.

 

A general war (which is a necessary prerequisite to the glorious revolution) will wipe out all these worthless races (Original German : Völkerabfälle - Literaly : rubbish of peoples) down to their very names. The next world war will result in the disappearance from the face of the earth not only of reactionary classes and dynasties, but also of entire reactionary races. And that, too, is a step forward.

- Attributed variously to Marx and/or Engels but advocated by both.

 

Repeatedly attempted implementation of this "ethnic cleansing" by true believers in Marx is one of the most shameful chapters of human history and must never be forgotten or forgiven.

 

My apologies for bringing this thread down to such shameful truths, but, to bring it back on-topic:

 

Marxism denies the concept of ownership and, this denial is one of the excuses used by pirates for stealing software. Without pirates, there would be no need for such things as Steam exclusive games. Of course, human nature being what it is, there'll always be someone who wants to take what's yours without permission and without payment; such people will use any excuse to justify their actions.

 

Let's try to keep it on-topic folks. :devil:

[NemesisTheWarlock]

Spot on Eckss :thumbsup:

Besides, Valve are behaving in a very socialist manner, they are attempting to embody the communist leaders' credo of "All property is mine!"

Edited June 4, 2013 by NemesisTheWarlock

[pmmurphy]

AH man i have no idea about all that. Screw communisim.

 

Ill just start my own government system. That will be very un-thought out and not practical and never work.

 

Bethesda makes millions and millions of dollars per title of surplus basically.

 

They have a huge fan-base, and eventhough pirates are an issue, the knowledge behind how to pirate and the amount of people who actually know about pirately are less than you might believe. On top of that alot of people don't use pirated software out of fear of viruses since it isn't coming from a trusted provider.

 

People have common sense even though it may not look like it so alot of people know tot avoid the hustlers you find on the street. If they don't understand to avoid those hustlers sooner or later they will learn the rules of the street and they will become more intelligent.

 

What im getting at is, bethesda ups the ante of protection on its software restricting future developers for what? A few extra thousand dollars in surplus where they already get plenty enough to continue everything they need to continue? They also have high incentive to buy the product without pirating.

 

There are technical ways you can seperate your product from ANY pirated copy and still distinguish the difference.

 

But as stated before. They are a buisness, they want money. So people are taking money away from them, therefor it must be stopped.

 

But anyone who knows anything about technology knows its stupid because you can just have steam send a hidden unique ID that is only initiated in your copy of the game when installing through steam. This way, when anyone and everyone who installs via some process other than steam process, all updates and extra features including DLCs get revoked. On top of this you can generate a database of IPs for caught individuals then compile a database. Then forward the database to the police.

Edited June 4, 2013 by pmmurphy

[bben46]

@pmmurphy: We do not allow discussing piracy in any form here - This will be the only warning.

[thegreatheimskar]

Pirates.. right guys... they are everywhere.. If I see them on the street, I would just report to the powlice. "hey powlice,there's the pirate guy" .. hate them. :no:

Edited July 3, 2013 by thegreatheimskar

[GimmeBackMyMoney]

I could be one of the lucky few with a fast and reliable Ethernet connection and a relatively stable PC, but apart from a few inconvenient hiccups in the past, I've never had a major issue with Steam. It's a bit sluggish when starting up (and a lot less worse when the client updates itself), but it's a minor price to pay.

 

What I love is not only their sales, but revival of many games which means I won't have to get a console (Dreamcast for Jet Set Radio) or spend countless hours tweaking a game just to get it to work on XP (System Shock 2), let alone XP and a dual core processor which would make such feats near impossible.

 

I understand that convenience can be an issue, but with Steam, it takes a few clicks to get a game and with decent prices, it makes no sense NOT to get a game that way.

 

Anyway, I'm sorry to bring this off-topic, I just wanted to express my two cents. If a game is available on Steam (exclusive or not), I'll get it on Steam, because I cant see a reason not to.

Edited July 13, 2013 by GimmeBackMyMoney

[Korodic]

 

IMO, the Gambryo engine used by Beth is already very well documented as it is used in various forms by several other game companies, and is showing it's age. It is a 15 year old 32 bit game engine now held together with duct tape, bailing wire and chewing gum patches. (And still has that aggravating memory leak that came with the original version) Gambryo - even the modified version that Beth insisted on using for Skyrim is last decade tech. If you are looking to the future, find a 64 bit up and coming game engine and study that. :thumbsup:

You made me sad to realize skyrim wasn't at it's fullest potential :c

[remymartin]

Yeah, me too. Before I read his comment I had been subscribing to the belief that at the time it was released Skyrim was a ground-breaking game and a coup for Bethesda and gamers alike. Now, it just seems like it's been a financial coup for Bethesda and we've been delivered a second-rate game. Ah well, there's always Crysis.

Edited October 17, 2013 by remymartin

[bben46]

The game itself is groundbreaking - it is just the engine limits what the game makers can actually do. But what they have done with what they had to work with is great. :thumbsup:

[JimboUK]

The game itself is groundbreaking - it is just the engine limits what the game makers can actually do. But what they have done with what they had to work with is great. :thumbsup:

 

Bethesda's lack of writing talent, their incompetent coders and their continued employment of Todd "let the player win" Howard is what holds them back.