MitchiMitchy Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Okay, so i'm sitting with a problem here.... I've been searching on google for solutions, but none of them are working for me. I've got like 175 plugins active on Fallout 3 GOTY, and i can't reach the main menu,and the game just closes automatically. This is my load order. I would really appreciate it if one of you could help me out of this. 0 0 Fallout3.esm 1 1 Anchorage.esm 2 2 ThePitt.esm 3 3 StreetLights.esm 4 4 BrokenSteel.esm 5 5 PointLookout.esm 6 6 Zeta.esm 7 7 Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm 8 8 AWorldOfPainFO3.esm 9 9 CALIBR.esm 10 a CRAFT.esm 11 b DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm 12 c EVE.esm 13 d FNNCQ.esm 14 e FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm 15 f HairPack.esm 16 10 Lings.esm 17 11 LingsDLC.esm 18 12 Mart's Mutant Mod.esm 19 13 Megaton Reborn.esp 20 14 Point Lookout Reborn.esm 21 15 Project Beauty.esm 22 16 Republic of Dave Expansion Mod.esm 23 17 RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm 24 18 Rivet City OverhaulV2.ESM 25 19 Rivet City OverhaulV2.esp 26 1a RivetCityReborn.esm 27 1b RTS NW.esm 28 1c TheInstitute.esm 29 1d Vault 101 Revisited.esm 30 1e WastelandGuards01.esm 31 1f [uU] Unique Uniques .04.esp 32 20 Achievements for All.esp 33 21 Anchorage2277.esp 34 22 AndaleHunterInn.esp 35 23 Another Interior Mod.esp 36 24 Arefu_Expanded.esp 37 25 BeefedUpCitadel.esp 38 26 Better The Family.esp 39 27 Big Town Overhaul.esp 40 28 BoSDX.esp 41 29 BoSoutpost.esp 42 2a CALIBRxMerchant.esp 43 2b Canterbury Commons Interiors Embiggened.esp 44 2c Citadel redesigned EN.esp 45 2d Citadel remake.esp 46 2e citadelprotected armory.esp 47 2f COL Enclave VER2.esp 48 30 CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp 49 31 CRBSOR.esp 50 32 CrowdedCities_v2.esp CrowdedCities_v2_lessNPCs.esp 51 33 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 52 34 EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp 53 35 EVE - FWE Master Release.esp 54 36 EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp 55 37 EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp 56 38 Expanding Megaton Mod - Inside - V1.9.esp 57 39 F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp 58 3a FemaleEnclaveSoldiers - Broken Steel.esp 59 3b FemaleEnclaveSoldiers.esp 60 3c Flora Overhaul.esp 61 3d FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp 62 3e FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp 63 3f FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp 64 40 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp 65 41 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp 66 42 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp 67 43 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp 68 44 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp 69 45 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp 70 46 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp 71 47 FO3DLCOptimized.esp 72 48 FO3Optimized.esp 73 49 FollowersToPointLookout.esp 74 4a FollowersToThePit.esp 75 4b GhoulUnderworldGuard.esp 76 4c GNR Enhanced.esp 77 4d GrayditchExpanded.esp 78 4e hair_add_npc.esp 79 4f Invisible Walls FIX Capitol.esp 80 50 LamplightDefenses.esp 81 51 majormodder's Junk Food to Barbeque Crisps.esp 82 52 Mart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.esp 83 53 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp 84 54 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp 85 55 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp 86 56 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp 87 57 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp 88 58 Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp 89 59 Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp 90 5a Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp 91 5b Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp 92 5c Mart's Mutant Mod.esp 93 5d megalight.esp 94 5e Megaton Armory upgrade.esp 95 5f Megaton Clinic and more_v01.esp 96 60 Megaton Closes - PlayerDoorLock.esp 97 61 Megaton Closes.esp 98 62 Megaton Morality.esp 99 63 Megaton Reborn1.esp100 64 MegatonCompanions.esp101 65 MegatonFixup.esp102 66 MetroCars.esp103 67 MoAHENavmeshFix.esp104 68 More2Megaton.esp MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.esp105 69 MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp106 6a MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp107 6b Named Underworld NPCs.esp108 6c Outcast DX.esp109 6d Paridise falls EX rework.esp110 6e Player Animations - Food & Drink.esp111 6f Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp112 70 Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp113 71 projectervoicecanstop.esp114 72 PureWater-LittleRad-.esp115 73 PureWater-NoRad-.esp116 74 PureWater-VeryCleanLittleRad-.esp117 75 PureWater-VeryClearNoRad-.esp118 76 Purity Crash Fix.esp119 77 RagdollOverhaulFo3.esp120 78 RaidersRedoneModular01.esp121 79 RCM2.esp122 7a RCOS Modder's Resource.esp123 7b Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp124 7c Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp125 7d Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp126 7e Realistic Interior Lighting.esp127 7f Republic of Dave Expansion Mod.esp128 80 RH_EVE_Bridge.esp129 81 RH_FWE_Bridge.esp130 82 RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp131 83 RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp132 84 RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp133 85 RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp134 86 RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp135 87 RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp136 88 RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp137 89 RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp138 8a RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp139 8b RH_IronSights_Vanilla_NewWeapons.esp140 8c RH_WMK_Bridge.esp141 8d Rivet City (Eng).esp142 8e Rivet City Realignment.esp143 8f Rivet_City_Security_1.1.esp144 90 RRFemalesRemoved.esp145 91 RRGoreGrafittiRemoved.esp146 92 RTS NW - Volume 1st.esp147 93 RTS NW - Volume 2nd.esp148 94 RTS NW - Volume 3rd.esp149 95 RTS NW - Volume 4 Stone.esp150 96 SewerEntranceNameFix.esp151 97 Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp152 98 StockholmSniper.esp153 99 superSledgeRetexture Textureset.esp154 9a T60 Power Armors.esp155 9b TeslaForGirls.esp156 9c The House (v1).esp157 9d The new Saloon of Megaton (v1).esp158 9e The Shop of Megaton update 2.esp159 9f ThePitt Extended 2.esp160 a0 ThePittReforged.esp161 a1 UF3P Crane Fix.esp162 a2 Underworld Concourse.esp163 a3 update.esp164 a4 UPP - Original Perks.esp165 a5 UsableCigarettes.esp166 a6 Vault 106 Fixes.esp167 a7 Vault 106.esp168 a8 WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp169 a9 WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp170 aa WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp171 ab WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp172 ac WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp173 ad WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp174 ae WeaponModKits.esp I know it's a lot, but i couldn't resist it.... 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M48A5 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 The game cannot handle more than 125-130 active .esm/.esp files in the load order. You should not try to start a new game with ant mods active. You will crash at the birth scene. You should play through the tutorial until you get to the exit tunnel, then make a save. Exit the tunnel to the wasteland and make another save. Now you can add your mods. However, you should start and play the game with NO mods to ensure that the game will run on your rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchiMitchy Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 The game cannot handle more than 125-130 active .esm/.esp files in the load order. You should not try to start a new game with ant mods active. You will crash at the birth scene. You should play through the tutorial until you get to the exit tunnel, then make a save. Exit the tunnel to the wasteland and make another save. Now you can add your mods. However, you should start and play the game with NO mods to ensure that the game will run on your rig.aye, thanks man, will try to disable the mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchiMitchy Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Well.... i've managed to cut my mods down to 140, but still, when i try to start the game, it shows a little bit of the title screen, and then BOOM, gone......I don't know what to do now. 0 0 Fallout3.esm 1 1 Anchorage.esm 2 2 ThePitt.esm 3 3 StreetLights.esm 4 4 BrokenSteel.esm 5 5 PointLookout.esm 6 6 Zeta.esm 7 7 Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm 8 8 Point Lookout Reborn.esm 9 9 CALIBR.esm Rivet City OverhaulV2.ESM 10 a Rivet City OverhaulV2.esp 11 b Vault 101 Revisited.esm 12 c Megaton Reborn.esp 13 d RTS NW.esm 14 e WastelandGuards01.esm CRAFT.esm 15 f FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm RivetCityReborn.esm 16 10 DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm 17 11 Mart's Mutant Mod.esm 18 12 Project Beauty.esm 19 13 EVE.esm 20 14 Lings.esm 21 15 LingsDLC.esm 22 16 Republic of Dave Expansion Mod.esm 23 17 RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm 24 18 RRGoreGrafittiRemoved.esp 25 19 Citadel redesigned EN.esp 26 1a FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp 27 1b [uU] Unique Uniques .04.esp 28 1c Rivet City (Eng).esp 29 1d GrayditchExpanded.esp 30 1e Big Town Overhaul.esp 31 1f ThePitt Extended 2.esp 32 20 Citadel remake.esp 33 21 Mart's Mutant Mod.esp 34 22 Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp Achievements for All.esp 35 23 The House (v1).esp 36 24 Megaton Clinic and more_v01.esp 37 25 MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp 38 26 The new Saloon of Megaton (v1).esp 39 27 The Shop of Megaton update 2.esp 40 28 Canterbury Commons Interiors Embiggened.esp 41 29 RH_WMK_Bridge.esp 42 2a Expanding Megaton Mod - Inside - V1.9.esp 43 2b Rivet City Realignment.esp 44 2c FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp 45 2d Republic of Dave Expansion Mod.esp 46 2e Another Interior Mod.esp 47 2f FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp 48 30 Realistic Interior Lighting.esp 49 31 MegatonFixup.esp 50 32 EVE - FWE Master Release.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp 51 33 More2Megaton.esp 52 34 citadelprotected armory.esp 53 35 Arefu_Expanded.esp 54 36 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp 55 37 Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp 56 38 Megaton Reborn1.esp 57 39 Underworld Concourse.esp 58 3a ThePittReforged.esp 59 3b BeefedUpCitadel.esp 60 3c Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp 61 3d FemaleEnclaveSoldiers - Broken Steel.esp 62 3e F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp 63 3f CrowdedCities_v2.esp CrowdedCities_v2_lessNPCs.esp 64 40 RCM2.esp 65 41 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp 66 42 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp 67 43 Player Animations - Food & Drink.esp 68 44 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp 69 45 MegatonCompanions.esp 70 46 T60 Power Armors.esp 71 47 Megaton Closes.esp 72 48 MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.esp 73 49 RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp 74 4a RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp 75 4b AndaleHunterInn.esp 76 4c Outcast DX.esp 77 4d BoSDX.esp 78 4e CALIBRxMerchant.esp 79 4f FemaleEnclaveSoldiers.esp 80 50 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 81 51 EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp 82 52 EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp 83 53 RaidersRedoneModular01.esp 84 54 Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp 85 55 RH_IronSights_Vanilla_NewWeapons.esp 86 56 EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp 87 57 Flora Overhaul.esp 88 58 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp 89 59 RH_FWE_Bridge.esp 90 5a FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp 91 5b FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp 92 5c FO3DLCOptimized.esp 93 5d FO3Optimized.esp 94 5e Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp 95 5f Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp 96 60 RH_EVE_Bridge.esp 97 61 RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp 98 62 UF3P Crane Fix.esp 99 63 FollowersToPointLookout.esp100 64 FollowersToThePit.esp101 65 MoAHENavmeshFix.esp102 66 GhoulUnderworldGuard.esp103 67 GNR Enhanced.esp104 68 Invisible Walls FIX Capitol.esp105 69 LamplightDefenses.esp106 6a majormodder's Junk Food to Barbeque Crisps.esp107 6b Mart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.esp108 6c Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp109 6d Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp110 6e Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp111 6f Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp112 70 Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp113 71 megalight.esp114 72 Megaton Closes - PlayerDoorLock.esp115 73 Megaton Morality.esp116 74 Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp117 75 Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp118 76 PureWater-LittleRad-.esp119 77 PureWater-NoRad-.esp120 78 PureWater-VeryCleanLittleRad-.esp121 79 PureWater-VeryClearNoRad-.esp122 7a Purity Crash Fix.esp123 7b RagdollOverhaulFo3.esp124 7c Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp125 7d RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp126 7e RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp127 7f RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp128 80 RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp129 81 RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp130 82 RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp131 83 Rivet_City_Security_1.1.esp132 84 RRFemalesRemoved.esp133 85 StockholmSniper.esp134 86 superSledgeRetexture Textureset.esp135 87 UPP - Original Perks.esp136 88 UsableCigarettes.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 That's a missing master crash. One of the mods you are trying to run needs some other mod, in order to work. The 'other' mod isn't installed, so, the game chokes and dies. :) Did you use a mod manager to install your mods? Or did you install them manually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) The game cannot handle more than 125-130 active .esm/.esp files in the load order. From the looks of the load list (it is no where a load order), you used LOOT to sort your mods. Mods with multiple plugins should be in the same order as the base game. READ your load order and start removing the conflicting ones. I would suggest you get the Blackened compatibility patches, but you must read and understand the instructions or the game will crash. You also need to go back to the mod pages and read the instructions there. As an example, all the plugins for FWE are completely in the wrong order. Is the game installed in "Program Files"? If it is, it will have to be reinstalled in a location outside of Program Files. Do you have FOSE?, Large Address Aware Enabler? Fallout Stutter Remover? New Vegas Anti-Crash? Edited January 14, 2020 by M48A5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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