Tagaziel Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Actually, what I thought was "Dad, are you a goddamn retard!? You DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO!" Because, seriously, the Enclave are the good guys in this game - Wasteland's best shot at rebuilding itself. Sure, they're fascists, but they're a better choice than a bunch of idiots in T-4x Power Armour running around shooting mutants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekearn Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Fascism /> Anarchy. I would rather live in a lawless society than a society with no freedoms at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lessabos Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I think also that Enclave are actually good guys , expect fact that they will shoot on sight. Because they dont want to destroy that water cleaner , they want to make it work so people will come to them and actualy remove that many factions and make one faction for capital wasteland.... i believe mod will come out soon which make able to join enclave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekearn Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Yes, their plans for destroying all wastelanders and rebuilding the "true America" with only themselves, who are "pure" is entirely acceptable. Giving people clean water to gain their trust before betraying them totally absolves them of wrongdoing. Not to mention the sick and at time horrifying Vault Experiments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederov Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 I get the feeling Dad knew a bit more about the enclave than he let on. I mean that guy was full of surprizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobax Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Its not possible for him to use rad-X cuz remember at the ending? You could use so much rad X you only get 1 rad per second and yet you still turned into a pile of green radioactive ....stuff The most likely explanation is that the guy in the room wasnt colonol autumn it was someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jntk Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 I think also that Enclave are actually good guys , expect fact that they will shoot on sight. Because they dont want to destroy that water cleaner , they want to make it work so people will come to them and actualy remove that many factions and make one faction for capital wasteland.... i believe mod will come out soon which make able to join enclaveyes...however you forget that they consider everyone born outside the Enclave to be mutants worthy of eradication. that includes you, your dad, vault dwellers and all the wastlanders.and they'll anyone to get what they want, i.e when Col. Autumn shot the scientist to get James to operate the project for him.oh yeah, and 'Preisedent' John Henry Eden is an AI computer... come on, they are lead by a computer..a computer that wants you to out the FEV virus into the Project Purity.(which would kill nearly every human or once-human being in the Capital Wasteland to "purify" it.) i can't see how the Enclave clasify as 'Good Guys' when they have been the antagonist in two fallout games. Its not possible for him to use rad-X cuz remember at the ending? You could use so much rad X you only get 1 rad per second and yet you still turned into a pile of green radioactive ....stuff The most likely explanation is that the guy in the room wasnt colonol autumn it was someone else it was him.he managed to survive by injecting himself with a mysterious medicine - likely the Enclave's more powerful equivalent of Rad-X or Rad Away. probablythen colonel Autumn, having injected himself with the special drug, is rushed to Raven Rock and resuscitated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobax Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 sry double post Enclave : Seldom Uses Common KnowledgeIn short.......they suck! They are bad! Dont you see? They captured you and nathan and even nathan who sides with the enclave says that they were not what they were said to be! You might as well be saying you wanna go against liberty prime and the whole brotherhood. No one can beat liberty prime actually liberty prime is pretty cool at the end I like this phrase :Obstruction detected! Composition : titanium alloy! Possibility of mission *something*.... 0 percent! I like how he says 0 percent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagaziel Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Yes, their plans for destroying all wastelanders and rebuilding the "true America" with only themselves, who are "pure" is entirely acceptable. Giving people clean water to gain their trust before betraying them totally absolves them of wrongdoing. Not to mention the sick and at time horrifying Vault Experiments. What? Autumn openly disagreed with Eden's genocidal tendencies, to the point of rebelling and leaving Raven Rock with his men. Tell me, what's so bad about wanting to restore the government and ACTIVATING PROJECT PURITY? The Enclave was the best bet the Wasteland had at rebuilding itself, now thanks to the Brotherhood's meddling, all is lost. But, fo course, Bethesda didn't even consider exploring such a venue that'd make the black/white division a bit grayer. I get the feeling Dad knew a bit more about the enclave than he let on. I mean that guy was full of surprizes. Like punching Yao Guai's in the face once he ran out of ammo ;) Its not possible for him to use rad-X cuz remember at the ending? You could use so much rad X you only get 1 rad per second and yet you still turned into a pile of green radioactive ....stuff The most likely explanation is that the guy in the room wasnt colonol autumn it was someone else It was Autumn. Same face, same clothes, Col. Autumn's Pistol, same voice... Post-Morrowind Bethesda isn't known for strong plots that don't have holes making Grand Canyon look like a ditch. yes...however you forget that they consider everyone born outside the Enclave to be mutants worthy of eradication. that includes you, your dad, vault dwellers and all the wastlanders.and they'll anyone to get what they want, i.e when Col. Autumn shot the scientist to get James to operate the project for him.oh yeah, and 'Preisedent' John Henry Eden is an AI computer... come on, they are lead by a computer.. No. After the destruction of the Oil Rig and Colonel Autumn's takeover, the Enclave has revised it's policy, being much more beligerent to perceived "mutants". Autumn OBJECTED to genocide actively, forcing Eden to ask the Player Character for some reason to put it in the purifier. Not to mention that Autumn RE-BELLED against Eden and wanted to activate the Purifier. a computer that wants you to out the FEV virus into the Project Purity.(which would kill nearly every human or once-human being in the Capital Wasteland to "purify" it.) i can't see how the Enclave clasify as 'Good Guys' when they have been the antagonist in two fallout games. Again, against which col. Autumn, the de facto leader of the Enclave, rebelled, not wanting to commit genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikekearn Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Just because Autumn is against what the Enclave is doing, doesn't make the Enclave good. It makes him a traitor to his own people. Which I say still makes him a %&$!, even if you ignore his brutal methods of accomplishing his goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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