unable to enter strip

[nzg41]

entering the strip from freeside or the mono loads a vast plain of nothing and then crashes

system specs: OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro

Version 10.0.18363 Build 18363

Other OS Description Not Available

OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation

System Name JAMESTUF

System Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.

System Model TUF Gaming FX505DU_TUF505DU

System Type x64-based PC

System SKU

Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3750H with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx, 2300 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)

BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. FX505DU.308, 9/19/2019

SMBIOS Version 3.2

Embedded Controller Version 11.00

BIOS Mode UEFI

BaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.

BaseBoard Product FX505DU

BaseBoard Version 1.0

Platform Role Mobile

Secure Boot State On

PCR7 Configuration Elevation Required to View

Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS

System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32

Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1

Locale United States

Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.18362.387"

User Name STEWARTLOCAL\james

Time Zone Central Standard Time

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB

Total Physical Memory 15.8 GB

Available Physical Memory 10.5 GB

Total Virtual Memory 18.2 GB

Available Virtual Memory 11.1 GB

Page File Space 2.38 GB

Page File C:\pagefile.sys

Kernel DMA Protection Off

Virtualization-based security Not enabled

Device Encryption Support Elevation Required to View

Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes

Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes

Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware No

Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

load order

FalloutNV.esm

0 0 DeadMoney.esm

1 1 HonestHearts.esm

2 2 OldWorldBlues.esm

3 3 LonesomeRoad.esm

4 4 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

5 5 ClassicPack.esm

6 6 MercenaryPack.esm

7 7 TribalPack.esm

8 8 CaravanPack.esm

9 9 YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

10 a FOOK - New Vegas.esm

11 b FreesideOpen.esm

12 c Functional Post Game Ending.esm

13 d Simply Uncut - New Vegas.esp

14 e FOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esm

15 f TheForum.esm

16 10 NewVegasRailroads.esm

17 11 NVStripOpen.esm

18 12 Sortomatic.esm

19 13 The New Bison Steve Hotel.esm

20 14 Uncut Road to Legate's Camp.esm

21 15 Afterschool Special.esm

22 16 Decrucifixion.esm

23 17 WMVM.esm

24 18 YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

25 19 5 Level SPECIALs.esp

26 1a Better Game Performance.esp

27 1b FOOK - New Vegas.esp

28 1c FOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esp

29 1d Uncut Extra Collection FSO.esp

30 1e outsidebets.esp

31 1f FreesideOpenPatch.esp

32 20 Uncut Wasteland FSO OB.esp

33 21 NVNovacApartament.esp

34 22 StripOpenMain.esp

35 23 Functional Post Game Ending - Strip Open Patch.esp

36 24 All Weapon Sounds Overhaul .esp

37 25 NarrativeExpansion01-Interface.esp

38 26 Uncut Skeletons.esp

39 27 Unofficial Patch Plus.esp

40 28 lexx_brahmin-betsy.esp

41 29 Armor Replacer Child NPC Fix.esp

42 2a EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp

43 2b Functional Post Game Ending - Outside Bets Patch.esp

44 2c MusicRecovery.esp

45 2d Uncut Cottonwood Cove Shack.esp

46 2e Rewarding Exploring.esp

47 2f Delay DLC - DM + HH + OWB + LR + GRA.esp

48 30 RangerHuntingCarbine.esp

49 31 athornysituation.esp

50 32 Simply Uncut NV - Freeside Open Patch.esp

51 33 awilderwasteland.esp

52 34 Uncut Greenhouses.esp

53 35 MainStoryAlterations.esp

54 36 Character Creation Streamlined.esp

55 37 Free the Slaves.esp

56 38 Decrucifixion.esp

57 39 GolfWaterScene.esp

58 3a SaveCass.esp

59 3b Uncut Bison Steve Trees.esp

60 3c Functional Post Game Ending - YUP Patch.esp

61 3d Decrucifixion - More Victims.esp

62 3e Ranger Denali.esp

63 3f Holster.esp

64 40 BigBoomerRelocated.esp

65 41 CASM.esp

66 42 Cheaper Repair Vendors 10%.esp

67 43 FalloutNVDLCOptimized.esp

68 44 FNVOpt1.esp

69 45 FNVOpt2.esp

70 46 FSOmusic.esp

71 47 Heartache By the Number Fix.esp

72 48 HTRP-Daily Vendor Restock.esp

73 49 HTRP-Vendor Supply Refresh.esp

74 4a ImprovedTerrifyingPresence.esp

75 4b JoeCobbIsFiend.esp

76 4c kochandbohr.esp

77 4d LaLongueCarabine.esp

78 4e lexx_armored_pagloves.esp

79 4f MFC to APC SchematicV1.1.esp

80 50 NarrativeExpansion02-LoadScreen.esp

81 51 NVDLC04 Allegiance w Duster.esp

82 52 OldCourierDuster_Replacer.esp

83 53 OWB_CazaclawFacility.esp

84 54 Passive Startup Messages.esp

85 55 Perks for Challenges.esp

86 56 RangerSequoiaSafehouse.esp

87 57 T3T_MiscItemIconsNV.esp

88 58 The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

89 59 The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

90 5a Unofficial Patch Plus - Addendum.esp

91 5b Unofficial Patch Plus - Companion Suite (No Carry Reduction).esp

92 5c Unofficial Patch Plus - Companion Suite (No Damage Nerf).esp

93 5d Unofficial Patch Plus - Companion Suite (Vanilla Effects).esp

94 5e Unofficial Patch Plus - Custom Companion Suite Template - Copy.esp

95 5f USArmyHelmet.esp

96 60 USArmyHelmet(Private).esp

97 61 Wild Wasteland YCS Fix.esp

98 62 XFO - 4bb - Perks - Two per level.esp

99 63 Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro_NV.esp

100 64 IceColdItAll.esp

tried to upload screenshot of how it looks like but it said the pictures were to big

Edited January 31, 2020 by nzg41

[dubiousintent]

Please see the "How to ask for help" wiki article. A symptom doesn't tell us anything except "that isn't how it's supposed to work", which we both knew.

 

-Dubious-

[nzg41]

sorry first time useing forems here ill try to mkae a more detailed post

[dubiousintent]

That's better (and why we created that wiki article).

 

Your hardware is up to the job and not a problem, so we can rule that out.

You see how your "load order" starts:

load order
           FalloutNV.esm
  0  0     DeadMoney.esm

The numbers indicate the order in which files are loaded by the game and start with "0", but the very first file (FalloutNV.esm) is not numbered. Which is the absolutely required first file of the game and is not enabled. Given you say your problem doesn't occur until you get to Freeside, I'm amazed you get beyond the main menu, and so have to assume that "load order" is misnumbered. However, the sequence is what matters and I'll accept that as accurate.

 

You have both FOOK and "Freeside Open", which are both major overhauls last updated in 2014 and 2013 respectively. Major overhauls are the most likely to have conflicts with other mods and require "compatibility patches". At the very least they (and all their patches) will need care in ensuring they load in the correct order. "Freeside Open" in particular changes "Freeside" from it's own interior to an exterior cell. That change sounds like the symptom you are reporting. I have no idea if both can be made compatible, but that is where I would start. It is also possible that other mods may also require a patch for either or both of those mods.

 

Please see the 'Common Game Problems' section of the wiki "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article. In particular see the notes about load order of compatibility patches, and about not using "Autopurge" mods.

 

Recommend you use "LOOT" to get an initial sort of your mods as it usually knows about and adjusts for older mod dependencies. You can then manually adjust if needed.

 

I recommend anyone read the entire "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article to understand the differences between this game and others you may have experience with; especially if this is your first attempt to play a modded FNV or it's been more than a year since you last did so. It is designed for someone who has never played a modded PC game before, so it tries to avoid making any assumptions.

-Dubious-

[nzg41]

oh ive been playing new vegas modded for a long time...though last i checked there was no compatability patches for fook and freeeside open however i have used the two before and this was a new issue ive not seen before

[GamerRick]

He only said it is the most likely cause. We can't read someone's load list and guess which mod is causing a problem.

 

The next question would be What mod(s) are new for you then? You should start disabling them until you find the culprit.

[nzg41]

pretty much my standered loadout...only new things are the playable after game,not cage and the simply uncut,and i have had zero issues anywhere else in the game prior to this

[dubiousintent]

Recent changes are always the first suspects. My guess would be it's "Simply Uncut - New Vegas". Recall I pointed out that "Freeside" moves that area from an interior cell into the exterior one? "Simply Uncut" affects NPCs in that area, which means it needs a compatibility patch which it provides ("Simply Uncut - New Vegas - Freeside Open Patch - The Release") that was recently updated (11 Dec 2019). It is entirely possible other patches are needed as well.

 

Your original "load order" might benefit from moving compatibility patches below ALL the mods they are designed to make "compatible".

 

-Dubious-

[nzg41]

okay tested it on my destop which has even more f*#@ing mods and...no problem

 

0 0 FalloutNV.esm

1 1 DeadMoney.esm

2 2 HonestHearts.esm

3 3 OldWorldBlues.esm

4 4 LonesomeRoad.esm

5 5 GunRunnersArsenal.esm

6 6 ClassicPack.esm

7 7 MercenaryPack.esm

8 8 TribalPack.esm

9 9 CaravanPack.esm

10 a YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

11 b Better New Vegas.esm

12 c FOOK - New Vegas.esm

13 d Vurt's WFO.esm

14 e FreesideOpen.esm

15 f Functional Post Game Ending.esm

16 10 Simply Uncut - New Vegas.esp

17 11 FOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esm

18 12 TheForum.esm

19 13 NewVegasRailroads.esm

20 14 NVStripOpen.esm

21 15 Sortomatic.esm

22 16 The New Bison Steve Hotel.esm

23 17 Uncut Road to Legate's Camp.esm

24 18 Afterschool Special.esm

25 19 WMVM.esm

26 1a Decrucifixion.esm

27 1b YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

28 1c FNVOpt1.esp

29 1d CASM.esp

30 1e Better Game Performance.esp

31 1f FOOK - New Vegas.esp

32 20 Book of Steel.esp

33 21 Boacombat2glove.esp

34 22 Wild Wasteland YCS Fix.esp

35 23 Uncut Extra Collection FSO.esp

36 24 Armor Replacer Child NPC Fix.esp

37 25 FOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esp

38 26 NarrativeExpansion01-Interface.esp

39 27 ImprovedTerrifyingPresence.esp

40 28 EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

41 29 Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro_NV.esp

42 2a XFO - 4bb - Perks - Two per level.esp

43 2b Better Burned Man.esp

44 2c The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

45 2d Heartache By the Number Fix.esp

46 2e JoeCobbIsFiend.esp

47 2f MiscItemIconsNV.esp

48 30 outsidebets.esp

49 31 FreesideOpenPatch.esp

50 32 Uncut Wasteland FSO OB.esp

51 33 High Roller Suite.esp

52 34 NVNovacApartament.esp

53 35 StripOpenMain.esp

54 36 All Weapon Sounds Overhaul .esp

55 37 Uncut Skeletons.esp

56 38 Unofficial Patch Plus.esp

57 39 lexx_brahmin-betsy.esp

58 3a EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp

59 3b Lucky Key.esp

60 3c MainStoryAlterations.esp

61 3d Character Creation Streamlined.esp

62 3e Functional Post Game Ending - Outside Bets Patch.esp

63 3f MusicRecovery.esp

64 40 Uncut Cottonwood Cove Shack.esp

65 41 Rewarding Exploring.esp

66 42 Simply Uncut NV - Freeside Open Patch.esp

67 43 Delay DLC - DM + HH + OWB + LR + GRA.esp

68 44 Hanlon dialogue fix.esp

69 45 RangerHuntingCarbine.esp

70 46 athornysituation.esp

71 47 awilderwasteland.esp

72 48 FSOmusic.esp

73 49 Uncut Greenhouses.esp

74 4a Free the Slaves.esp

75 4b Decrucifixion.esp

76 4c Uncut Bison Steve Trees.esp

77 4d GolfWaterScene.esp

78 4e Functional Post Game Ending - YUP Patch.esp

79 4f MuchNeededLOD.esp

80 50 LimestoneLOD.esp

81 51 Decrucifixion - More Victims.esp

82 52 Ranger Denali.esp

83 53 Holster.esp

84 54 BigBoomerRelocated.esp

85 55 OWB_CazaclawFacility.esp

86 56 USArmyHelmet.esp

87 57 Afterschool Special-Exterior Lights.esp

88 58 NVDLC04 Allegiance w Duster.esp

89 59 Cheaper Repair Vendors 10%.esp

90 5a Passive Startup Messages.esp

91 5b Perks for Challenges.esp

92 5c NarrativeExpansion02-LoadScreen.esp

93 5d karlsJnlegionledger.esp

94 5e The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

95 5f FalloutNVDLCOptimized.esp

96 60 IMPACT.esp

97 61 IceColdItAll.esp

98 62 Unofficial Patch Plus - Addendum.esp

99 63 MFC to APC SchematicV1.1.esp

100 64 LaLongueCarabine.esp

101 65 RangerSequoiaSafehouse.esp

102 66 FNVOpt2.esp

103 67 Functional Post Game Ending - Strip Open Patch.esp

104 68 HTRP-Daily Vendor Restock.esp

105 69 HTRP-Vendor Supply Refresh.esp

106 6a Havok Bouncer.esp

107 6b JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp

108 6c OldCourierDuster_Replacer.esp

109 6d SaveCass.esp

110 6e USArmyHelmet(Private).esp

111 6f boa ncrpahelmet.esp

112 70 kochandbohr.esp

113 71 lexx_armored_pagloves.esp

114 72 lexx_rifleholster.esp

115 73 FNVLODGen.esp

116 74 tmzLODadditions.esp

[dubiousintent]

That sounds like a difference in hardware capability. Most likely you are exceeding what your laptop video pipeline can handle with FO. (There is a reason they made Freeside into it's own cell instead of placing it in the exterior in the first place: XBox limitations.)

 

A laptop with an integrated video chip has to use "system RAM" for the video pipeline. That comes out of the 4GB (max) that a 32-bit game is allocated. Which is not the case with a "desktop" or when a separate video card is used in a laptop, which has it's own dedicated VRAM on the video card and uses a much smaller cache of system RAM out of that same 32-bit allocation. (I missed that absence when looking over your hardware specs.)

 

-Dubious-