binh223 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Good day, as stated in the title, i need help with my mods concerning the load order and if anything is conflicting with others. my PC specs:- i7 8700k- 32 gb 3200mhz ddr4- Zotac rtx 2080 AMP! Editioni also installed Fallout 4 on a SATA SSD. Load orders: 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp 8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm 9 9 HUDFramework.esm 10 a Loads.esm 11 b NAC.esm 12 c NewCalibers.esp 13 d SimSettlements.esm 14 e Homemaker.esm 15 f Robot Home Defence.esm 16 10 WorkshopFramework.esm254 FE 0 SimSettlements_Patch_Nukaworld.esl254 FE 1 FAR.esl254 FE 2 SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp 17 11 PlayerComments.esp 18 12 3dscopes.esp 19 13 ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp 20 14 Weaponsmith Extended 2.esp 21 15 WOTC.esp 22 16 SOTS.esp 23 17 Armorsmith Extended.esp 24 18 Crossbow.esp 25 19 DiamondNewVendors.esp 26 1a Unique NPCs.esp 27 1b FortHope.esp 28 1c Atomic World.esp 29 1d OutcastsAndRemnants.esp 30 1e FemsheppingsCliffsideHome.esp 31 1f The Train.esp 32 20 Wasteland Illumination DLC.esp 33 21 VerticalSpawns.esp 34 22 NEST_BUNKER_PROJECT.esp 35 23 LevelersBunker.esp 36 24 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 37 25 CheatTerminal.esp 38 26 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp 39 27 3dscopes-crossbow.esp 40 28 ASVektor.esp 41 29 3dscopes-vektor.esp 42 2a SettlementAttacksBeyond.esp 43 2b Conquest.esp 44 2c CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp 45 2d WattzLaserGun.esp 46 2e 3dscopes-wattz.esp 47 2f Ada2Human.esp 48 30 AlienAssaultRifle.esp 49 31 ClassicSniper.esp 50 32 ellen.esp 51 33 M2045MagnumRevolverRifle.esp 52 34 NukaRadBans.esp 53 35 AtomicAnnieLagrieGun.esp 54 36 BetterCompanions.esp 55 37 BetterJunkFences.esp 56 38 BetterSettlers.esp 57 39 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp 58 3a Companion Infinite Ammo.esp 59 3b CompRedo.esp 60 3c CriticalHitsOutsideofVATS.esp 61 3d InstituteSky.esp254 FE 3 CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp 62 3e LightsaberMod.esp254 FE 4 CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp 63 3f DX_Black_Widow.esp 64 40 EasyHacking.esp 65 41 EnclaveX02.esp 66 42 Extended weapon mods.esp 67 43 Factor.esp 68 44 KSHairdos.esp 69 45 MiscHairstyle.esp 70 46 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp 71 47 goodlooking piper v1.esp 72 48 Grasslands - Healthy.esp 73 49 IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp 74 4a Immersive HUD.esp 75 4b ImmersiveVendors.esp 76 4c LegendaryModification.esp 77 4d LegendaryModification2LM.esp 78 4e LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp 79 4f LegendaryModificationMisc.esp 80 50 llamaCompanionHeather.esp 81 51 LooksMenu.esp 82 52 M9.esp 83 53 NanoSuit.esp 84 54 Northland Diggers New.esp 85 55 P220.esp 86 56 Quad_Accelerator.esp 87 57 Search and Destroy.esp 88 58 SlowTime.esp 89 59 SSEX.esp 90 5a TakeCover.esp 91 5b Thematic and Practical.esp 92 5c Vivid Fallout - All in One - 4k.esp 93 5d WIPAG_Power Armor Overhaul.esp254 FE 5 WIPAG_Contraptions_DLC_Addon.esp254 FE 6 WIPAG_FarHarbor_DLC_Addon.esp254 FE 7 WIPAG_NukaWorld_DLC_Addon.esp254 FE 8 WIPAG_X02_Enclave_Addon.esp 94 5e zWInsanity.esp 95 5f Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp 96 60 CMC.esp254 FE 9 WIPAG_CMC_Addon.esp254 FE a CROSS_Blades.esp 97 61 dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp 98 62 dD - Limited Blood Decals.esp 99 63 dD - Screen Blood Duration Medium.esp100 64 FalloutKensei.esp101 65 FalloutSamurai.esp102 66 HuntingRifleSounds.esp103 67 TheStaffmaster.esp104 68 NAC-FarHarbor.esp105 69 NAC-NukaWorld.esp106 6a AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp107 6b companion_DogMetal.esp108 6c Synth Overhaul.esp109 6d Synth Overhaul - No level requirements Patch.esp110 6e Unique NPCs FarHarbor.esp111 6f Wasteland Illumination Far Harbor.esp112 70 CROSS_GoreCrits.esp113 71 CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp114 72 UGO_PlayerModule.esp115 73 llamaCompanionHeather-VIS - AE Patch.esp116 74 BP VIS AE patch - CROSS_IES.esp117 75 AWKCR - Last Resort CTD FIX.esp118 76 NAC-AE Patch.esp119 77 ESPExplorerFO4.esp120 78 No more monochrome - Color setting for the Pipboy!.esp121 79 ValiusHDTextures4K.esp122 7a FQ_NoMoreLODFlicker.esp123 7b Insignificant Object Remover.esp124 7c BostonFPSFixAIO.esp Thanks in advance and have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy08251993 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 With that many mods, you need to do what I did. Copy all records of these mods as overrides into a new .esp, and name it "Overhaul Master ESP", or something like that.Add all existing mods as masters to this new esp, so this overhaul esp will always load at the bottom of the load order. Then use xEdit to make changes and conflict resolutions as needed. I run with 240 mods all working perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binh223 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 With that many mods, you need to do what I did. Copy all records of these mods as overrides into a new .esp, and name it "Overhaul Master ESP", or something like that. Add all existing mods as masters to this new esp, so this overhaul esp will always load at the bottom of the load order. Then use xEdit to make changes and conflict resolutions as needed. I run with 240 mods all working perfectly.I'm not that good with modding yet, would u kindly provide me a tutorial on ytb for what you were saying ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted48339873User Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Hello from Greece. What i did install the Nexus mod manager Community edition and let this program organized the mods, with nexus system This system also put all esm files first if a mod don't work, put it last at load order. Also if you use unlimited companion framework, this mod, must put last at load order, so you don't get in the game, a message said there is a problem. When you open the NMM CE, see the plugins, at left and check. if a mod need some other mod, then you see that the name of this mod going red. ignore any wrong message about 3dnpc mods, add new settlers or add this new quest. Check every mod after any esl mods and Fallout 4 files /textures and dlc files / so you see if you need a mod, so this stop any conflicts Close NMM CE and run it again. Sometimes this is needed, because don't show from the start if there is a conflict. Mod organizer is a good program, but many times if someone use many mods, some mods not going to work. i don't use Vortex because i can't trust it. i like things simple. Hope i help. That's all. Thanks. ---- try to keep the active mods, under 230 and don't add mods, give new enemies, because your game is going always to crash, at some points on the map, Commonwealth -because the game, can't handle too many people, around ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binh223 Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Hello from Greece. What i did install the Nexus mod manager Community edition and let this program organized the mods, with nexus system This system also put all esm files first if a mod don't work, put it last at load order. Also if you use unlimited companion framework, this mod, must put last at load order, so you don't get in the game, a message said there is a problem. When you open the NMM CE, see the plugins, at left and check. if a mod need some other mod, then you see that the name of this mod going red. ignore any wrong message about 3dnpc mods, add new settlers or add this new quest. Check every mod after any esl mods and Fallout 4 files /textures and dlc files / so you see if you need a mod, so this stop any conflicts Close NMM CE and run it again. Sometimes this is needed, because don't show from the start if there is a conflict. Mod organizer is a good program, but many times if someone use many mods, some mods not going to work. i don't use Vortex because i can't trust it. i like things simple. Hope i help. That's all. Thanks. ---- try to keep the active mods, under 230 and don't add mods, give new enemies, because your game is going always to crash, at some points on the map, Commonwealth -because the game, can't handle too many people, around ----Good day, thank you for responding, i will try to convert to nmm i guess. I'm using mo2 since i'm kinda used to it from old and newrim. Thanks for the advices. Take care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted48339873User Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 i check you post again and found some problems WOTC.esp Mod, war of the commonwealth mods, add new enemies cause always crash at specific areas of the map -because the game can't handle too many people around / bunker hill / all around cabot house / old north church / outside goodneighbor . coastal cottage and other BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp This mod don't work if you use a mod need other mod, call, the eyes of beauty, check if also need the mod, theeyesofbeaty.esp if yes, rename the eyes of beauty, to theeyesofbeauty Vivid Fallout - All in One - 4k.esp try not to use this mod, because replace the original fallout 4 textures CMC.esp what is that ? Nac ENB also cause crashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRJump Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 i check you post again and found some problems WOTC.esp Mod, war of the commonwealth mods, add new enemies cause always crash at specific areas of the map -because the game can't handle too many people around / bunker hill / all around cabot house / old north church / outside goodneighbor . coastal cottage and other BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp This mod don't work if you use a mod need other mod, call, the eyes of beauty, check if also need the mod, theeyesofbeaty.esp if yes, rename the eyes of beauty, to theeyesofbeauty Vivid Fallout - All in One - 4k.esp try not to use this mod, because replace the original fallout 4 textures CMC.esp what is that ? Nac ENB also cause crashesThe two NAC files are not an ENB but two plugs that imitate the NAC ENB. Vivid Fallout is one of the better texture mods, although going for the 4K edition will need a hefty computer. And Better Settlers No Lollygagging works and has done so for years. CMC is a Power Armour, I think. Based on something from Starcraft 2 or somesuch. And don't say that the NAC ENB causes crashes, because that is simply not true. Computers that cannot handle the ENB because of not enough RAM will cause crashes. Half of what you say is simply not correct. Keep mods under 230? I'm running Skyrim Special Edition with 761 mods (394 plugins of which 142 are esl/light) and I just started a new run in FO4 and converted a whole bunch of esp to 'light' versions with xEdit and am now at 623 mods of which 429 have a plugin (206 light/esl). There you go. And if Binh is happy with MO2 then he/she can keep using it. I don't use it (I'm an NMM guy) and I've tried Vortex but that's a bit of a nightmare when using more than average mods. And don't use NMM to sort load order, use LOOT instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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