Train for power armour?

[mikekearn]

What if you were to come to them with a Brotherhood set of power armor you killed some BoS guys for? Then it should be obvious you are their side, and they should be more willing to accept you.

 

It's all a moot point for me, though. I got pissed off at their incessant, condescending remarks, and killed the lot of them.

[Seviche]

It's the Spoiler forum, who are you trying to protect?

It's a habit I intend to keep. Habits keep the mistakes away.

At any rate, why would the Outcasts recruit/train you? They stick to the old teachings, which certainly didn't involve recruiting any Wastelander that happened to drop off some neat items. Besides which, if they train you to use Power Armor, they have to give you a suit, because the only other way for you to get it would be to kill one of their existing members (which you've probably done anyway, but it's the principle of the thing).

Well, there's usually a suit of Outcast power armor in

Old Earney (sp?) on a corpse, as well as the Experimental Power Armor in the sewers below.

Also, if you bring them enough "junk" they do become friendly and as the Outcasts do need to increase their numbers, recruiting from the locals makes sense. The locals are the only source of additional manpower other than the West Coast BOS sending new troops over. The Outcasts merely have issues with helping the locals over their holy their mandate of technology collection and preservation. The Scourging is remembered fondly, or whatever the saving of the children (with heavy firepower) was called.

 

That's my read based on dialogue and what in-game information there is. That's why they should offer training, but only after you've showed real dedication to their cause. I'd think that turning in

the BOS holotags

should be enough proof of your dedication.

 

Yes, I used the spoiler tag again. :whistling:

[Wreckless1]

Enter console,

type

 

setpccanusepowerarmor 1

 

:)

 

Considering that canon didn't establish any funny need for training to use power armor in FO1 and FO2, I don't have a problem with this. Especially since the vanilla power armor in FO3 is rubbish compared to the PA of FO1/FO2.

 

In the GNR quest after defeating the behemoth, Sarah Lyons will notice if you're wearing Power Armor when you talk to her - so I know that Beth didn't always think they were going to force training.

 

I do wish like hell that they'd have put more NPC reactions to Power Armor in the game, though.

 

For instance, BOS outcasts probably shouldn't be suggesting that you go bang rocks together if you're wearing Power Armor and carrying a Plasma Rifle.

[Seviche]

In the GNR quest after defeating the behemoth, Sarah Lyons will notice if you're wearing Power Armor when you talk to her - so I know that Beth didn't always think they were going to force training.

 

I do wish like hell that they'd have put more NPC reactions to Power Armor in the game, though.

 

For instance, BOS outcasts probably shouldn't be suggesting that you go bang rocks together if you're wearing Power Armor and carrying a Plasma Rifle.

I had noticed the Lyons bit, but I was running about with the BOS power armor at the time (2nd character, just couldn't leave that Outcast armor lying in the road, "upgraded" to the armor from the

dead guy before the behemoth battle

). Does she say the same thing if you're wearing Outcast armor? I wonder.

 

Excellent point though, I wonder if there IS another way to get training (hidden or forgotten), or if the main quest line is still the only way. :down:

[SpeedyB64]

If you bring the outcasts enough stuff do they let you into there base?

[falloutx]

Alright it has come to my intentions that outcast rumour is going wide enough the secret of hologtags , recently i remember i killed

one of the outmost importance bos captain not lylon pride some captain.

 

possible rumor that hits direct outcast base is the holo tag itself there is a quest finding holotags , another rumour says that if you character is on evil karma , and you killed one of atleast lieutenants or captain on bos , you directly tagged as "outcast " , either

you stumble upon on a talkable outcast npc's you have the chance to join them and avoid the main quest

 

not sure if i got my legit copy tomorrow ill dug up the real deal on fallout 3 dont worry all shall reveal the coolest thing about fallout3

we not sure how many quest there are even how long the gameplay is the game says its on 100 hours but i dig it its more then

100 + plus the hidden quest "Note"

 

not sure about this whole outcast thing but like i said if i get my legit copy ill play and dig it up in couple of hours or so dont worry but i cant promise you its gonna be an accurate solution to the outcast bos ill find it soon evantually

[Sephlyn]

Paladin Gunny but there is also a Consule Code you could enter by typing ~ SetPCCanUsePowerArmor 1

[falloutx]

but the truth about that code it hurts to say even when you train or cheated SetPCCanUsePowerArmor 1 you cant have the perk cause you already trained using that code , just to know using that code could ruin the whole quest just finished the game first then see if you can use that code after the next character you played :D

[Sephlyn]

Didn't Ruin the play through I called (After setting it to very hard, downloading the X3 spawn multiplyier and Minigun damage upgrade, and Super mutie big gun mods)

"Tactics Reloaded" XD I needed it!

PowerArmor Training (Quest Perk) 00058FDF

But ya I did get training for real my first few games and I did have a richer experience so your point is true

[crimsonsteel]

hmm there is a rumour that you can seee the outcast bos , who knows somewhere in wasteland , agreed outcast pa is alot better the bos

 

there is an outcase base its like north east of tenpenny tower, its one of those old military bases. its basically inbetween citadel and tenpenny. thats where they ask u to look for artefacts. dont know what tho, dont care.