Found the source of my CTD but need help fixing it.

[talveren]

I'm no expert but believe it is a combination of memory and graphics card. More so on the graphics card.

 

Assuming you were previously using the QTP full...you can try using QTP Redimized. This is a reduced and optimized package which may be a bit easier for your pc to handle. There is also a Redimized and Further Reduced package available. Failing that...QTP has an item by item install system. Meaning you don't HAVE to use everything. Figure out what parts of the package mean the most to you...and your pc can handle running.

 

On my now dead older pc I was able to use all of the interior elements such as sewers, caves, dungeons, basements. But for the exterior world was limited to forts and ayleid ruins. That was all it could handle without horrible lag, stutter and eventual CTD. The forts and ruins were my personal preference of course, I could have instead used the ground textures and rocks, etc, etc. You get the idea I'm sure.

 

If you just can't live without ALL of the wonderful hi-res textures...I would first suggest upgrading your graphics card. That would be the best investment if you can't afford a new pc. Memory helps also but the graphics card is your biggest muscle here. Of course a new, more powerful pc would be the ultimate answer.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Please show me a link for both QTP Redimized and an even Further Deduced Package.

 

This doesn't rub well with me though. I use more graphic mods on Skyrim than I do with Oblivion yet Skyrim never crashes. I got a new video card yesterday, which is even better than my old one, yet Oblivion STILL crashes.

 

 

I went to streamline and used that to play with the min fog distance, max fog distance, and clipping. I use OSR for the fps. I have ~100 mods and qarls, and i was having problems like what you're describing. The other thing you need to check is how much RAM Oblivion is using. It might only be using 1.8 GB, and if you have more, there's a patch that will get you up to 4 GB. When Oblivion gets to the point that it's used up its memory allocation it crashes. I finally got to the point where I can play again with qarls full. :)

 

Quick! In detail, I want to know everything! Tell me what to download and give me links to them! Hurry! ARGGHHHH

 

 

 

lol. Be warned, it took me about 16 hours of tweaking with these and my mods to figure this out. Maybe with these tips you can do it a lot faster.

BEFORE YOU DO ANY OF THIS:

backup your data folder and your my documents\my games\oblivion\Oblivion.ini

If you don’t back up, and come back here to complain, I’m going to point and mock.

 

Ok, here goes:

 

*4GB patch -- http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php -- You need this on a 64 GB system. If you're running 32 bit, it's not going to matter.

 

You'll want to make sure it's working and you can do that by running in windowed mode, and running up Oblivion until it's past 1.8 GB of RAM without crashing. Use this tool (Windows Sysinternals Process Explorer) http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspxto to monitor memory usage. Modify the columns displayed because you need to pay attention to the Virtual Size as that's the actual memory allocation for an app. The other two memory settings I point to in the pic (attached to post) are for physical and total used memory. If it isn't working, troll around the nets to find the answer. I will tell you that I'm running a steam copy of Oblivion and I didn't have a problem getting it working.

 

*Oblivion Stutter Remover -- http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/23208

 

I replaced the default heap for Oblivion with the one from this mod. I changed OSR’s default entry in its .ini from bReplaceHeap = 0 to bReplaceHeap = 1

You can also change the heap algorithm that it uses (read the .txt file in the archive). I didn’t have to do that. I’m using algorithm 5 with a heap size of 450 which is what the default is. If you decide to try and mess with the heap size, be aware that the forums at bethsoft indicate that going above 1024 just makes the game crash more. Changing the setting for the heap algorithm seems to be fair game, but I’ve only tried 5. I left the FPS settings alone. The human eye can’t perceive above 30 fps anyway so I don’t think there’s much point in making it higher.

 

*Streamline 3.1 -- http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/10400 -- The savior of qarls mod

 

It’s an open beta, but imo streamsight makes it worth it. Make sure to read the .txt files included.

 

I made the following changes to my Streamline ini (sl.ini). I set streamsmooth to off because it does the same thing as OSR. I don’t need both.

 

 

 

set SLv.FPSsmoothing to 0 ; Turn on Streamsmooth? (FPS smoothing)

 

 

 

Stream purge clears the memory based on your setting. I have mine on medium

 

 

 

;===================================================================================

; [streampurge Settings] An automated cache-cleaner for Oblivion

;===================================================================================

set SLh.SLmode to 3 ; Memory Purge Mode (1-6) (Default: 3)

; Lower # = faster, higher # = slower

set SLv.PurgeOnTravel to 0 ; Purge memory on travel & zone?

set SLv.PurgeOnWait to 1 ; Purge memory when character waits?

set SLv.PurgeOnSleep to 1 ; Purge memory when character sleeps?

 

 

 

 

Streamsave will control the saves in place of Oblivion if you want. I decided to do this. If you want to, read the .txt files to figure it out. It’s not hard. Make sure you make the changes it documents to Oblivion.ini as well.

 

 

Streamsight is the important one. It lets you set how close the fog is to you and whether or not stuff gets drawn behind it, and how far away it will draw before it stops. This is what made high graphics mods reasonable on my system.

 

You have to change the Oblivion.ini as well as the sl.ini These are the settings I’m using in sl.ini.

 

There’s an included file in the documents that will help you figure out what to tune your fog settings to get the best of your system. You'll basically have to take those settings, and play with them until the game starts to run well.

I am using a scripted weather mod, so I turned set SLv.WeatherUnsticker off. Use your judgement.

Make sure to turn on Extreme Clipping. It’s off by default. Change the set SLv.ClipMin to a range somewhere behind your maximum fog distance. Don't push it too far out, or you won't get the benefit of doing it at all.

 

 

 

 

;===================================================================================

; [streamsight Settings] Refer to documentation for values

;===================================================================================

set SLv.MinDistanceFog to 10000 ; Min distance before fog starts (0%)

set SLv.MaxDistanceFog to 36000 ; Max distance before fog ends (100%)

set SLv.MinWaterFog to 0 ; Min distance before water fog starts

set SLv.MaxWaterFog to 1500 ; Max distance before water fog ends

;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

set SLv.WeatherUnsticker to 0 ; Leave set at 1 unless you use a

; scripted weather mod

;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

set SLv.ExtremeClipping to 1 ; Turn on clipping behind distant fog?

; Gains FPS, but can cause some

; clipping of distant mountains

set SLv.ClipMin to 40000 ; Range under which clipping will stop

set SLv.FogUpdateFrequency to 6 ; Speed control for fog updates (1 - 10)

; # of updates per sec (Default: 6)

 

 

 

Here are the changes I made to my Oblivion.ini. These numbers go with the numbers for min fog and max fog distances. You look them up in the same document you get those numbers from.

 

 

 

uGridDistantTreeRange=5

uGridDistantCount=5

 

 

 

Have fun and make sure to read the readmes and other documentation.

 

What do I 4 GB patch? Oblivion.exe? Obse loader?

 

Oblivion.exe

 

Well, instead of trying to configure the settings to suit me, I just copied whatever you set it to. :biggrin:

 

I'm all set. If it still crashes, I'm going to burn down your house. :tongue:

 

Heh. Have fun.

Edited January 11, 2013 by talveren

[talveren]

Well, instead of trying to configure the settings to suit me, I just copied whatever you set it to. :biggrin:

 

I'm all set. If it still crashes, I'm going to burn down your house. :tongue:

 

Heh.

You will still get the occasional crash. It's the nature of the modding of a game as old as this one. I'm down to 1 or two crashes per session that I haven't tracked down the source of yet. Good luck on the house. It's protect by Xilavi. :laugh:

[GunnerofLife]

Well, instead of trying to configure the settings to suit me, I just copied whatever you set it to. :biggrin:

 

I'm all set. If it still crashes, I'm going to burn down your house. :tongue:

 

Heh.

You will still get the occasional crash. It's the nature of the modding of a game as old as this one. I'm down to 1 or two crashes per session that I haven't tracked down the source of yet. Good luck on the house. It's protect by Xilavi. :laugh:

 

I have the Neravarine with me. :tongue:

 

How long does it take until it crashes? 30 minutes? I hope?

[talveren]

Well, instead of trying to configure the settings to suit me, I just copied whatever you set it to. :biggrin:

 

I'm all set. If it still crashes, I'm going to burn down your house. :tongue:

 

Heh.

You will still get the occasional crash. It's the nature of the modding of a game as old as this one. I'm down to 1 or two crashes per session that I haven't tracked down the source of yet. Good luck on the house. It's protect by Xilavi. :laugh:

 

I have the Neravarine with me. :tongue:

 

How long does it take until it crashes? 30 minutes? I hope?

 

For me, it's somewhat random, but usually if it does crash it's within the first few times I tab open the Journal. I suspect it's something between Darnified UI and streamsave but I'm not at all sure. It's not consistent which makes it harder to find.

 

Oh, oops didn't answer the time question. Most of the time I get several hours of play. :)

Edited January 11, 2013 by talveren

[Striker879]

Something to try is exiting the game every few hours and restarting. As you are playing along the game is accumulating 'changes' your actions have made to the vanilla world stored in the BSAs, Oblivion.exe modified by the data in the save you loaded when you started. By saving and then exiting you are giving the game 'a clean slate' to start keeping track of your most recent 'changes' on. I save once every hour or hour and a half (unless I'm about to start something that may be tough to survive of course ... i.e I always save before diving into a dungeon). Every few hours I save exit and then restart if I'm going to continue to play. About the only time I crash is when I'm being silly with console commands (I love setting up wars between bandits, marauders and conjurers/necromancers).

[GunnerofLife]

Well, instead of trying to configure the settings to suit me, I just copied whatever you set it to. :biggrin:

 

I'm all set. If it still crashes, I'm going to burn down your house. :tongue:

 

Heh.

You will still get the occasional crash. It's the nature of the modding of a game as old as this one. I'm down to 1 or two crashes per session that I haven't tracked down the source of yet. Good luck on the house. It's protect by Xilavi. :laugh:

 

I have the Neravarine with me. :tongue:

 

How long does it take until it crashes? 30 minutes? I hope?

 

For me, it's somewhat random, but usually if it does crash it's within the first few times I tab open the Journal. I suspect it's something between Darnified UI and streamsave but I'm not at all sure. It's not consistent which makes it harder to find.

 

Oh, oops didn't answer the time question. Most of the time I get several hours of play. :)

 

I usually play Oblivion in short bursts of one hour. This is good news. Thanks for your help. :biggrin:

[talveren]

Not a problem. I love Oblivion but the old graphics bother me. I don't mind at all helping other people figure out how to get as much out of their graphics mods as I have. If you wouldn't mind letting me know how it goes, I'd love to know.

 

I have some other things I haven't tried yet in my list 'o stuff to play with graphics wise. :)

[GunnerofLife]

Not a problem. I love Oblivion but the old graphics bother me. I don't mind at all helping other people figure out how to get as much out of their graphics mods as I have. If you wouldn't mind letting me know how it goes, I'd love to know.

 

I have some other things I haven't tried yet in my list 'o stuff to play with graphics wise. :)

 

To be honest, I won't play much until the "robe invisibility" problem fixes. It's a real face slapper, that's for sure.