dAlexis Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Normal PC config now is system SSD with possibility of clean install and HDD 4 data. Storing all the data in appdata is making Vortex completely unrecoverable after system crash. But it may be easily fixed, if config sectiion for each game will be copied to game mods folder and used for recovery. Now I see folders with mods, 0 mods installed info and nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 or backup your appdata folder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAlexis Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 or backup your appdata folder?Not possible always :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 yes its absolutely possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAlexis Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 yes its absolutely possible.After crash - not :( During normal reinstall - of course, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 you are meant to have a complete back up of your system so you can do a full recovery in the event of a crash. its not vortex's problem that you didn't do that. its your problem for having an incomplete backup strategy. if the data has value, back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannin42 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 AppData is no more likely to lose data than any other directory but it's one directory that any backup software should backup by default. What you mean when you say "system crash" is that after your system broke you blindly deleted the entire C drive, right? Because up to the point where you deleted everything, the files would absolutely be recoverable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattledagger Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 if the data has value, back it up.But that's just the problem, if you've got the mod-archives where should be little reason of backing-up all the installed mods, since Vortex can easily re-install all the mods for you. Unfortunately with Vortex, even if you do have full backup of %appdata%\vortex + full backup of /downloads/-directory, if you don't have full backup of /mods/-directory you'll need to re-install all mods anyway and you need to re-create all the various conflict rules, making the backup of %appdata%\vortex fairly useless. Example showing the Vortex problem:1: You've got 100 GB worth of mod-archives spread across multiple games. If you need to re-download all these mod-archives from various sources, let's say you manage 1 GB/hour, meaning to restore this you'll use 100 hours. ==> having backup will definitely be a big advantage.2: Installed mods uses 200 GB total. Let's say 100 GB is "normal" mods with no kind of mod-installer and let's say Vortex uses 1 hour to install these mods. ==> Letting Vortex work for 1 hour shouldn't be a problem, you can example eat dinner or something while Vortex installs the mods for you. Using 100 GB for backup seems like a waste of space to me.3: Install 100 GB worth of mods that uses FOMOD or other type of installers. Since Vortex will all the time wait on user input, let's say you'll use 10 hours on this. ==> 10 hours with user-input could definitely be improved, so it seems backing-up these 100 GB worth of data would be an advantage, unless Vortex learns to pick the "correct" FOMOD-choices for you.4: Use let's say 10 hours to re-create all the conflict rules, profiles etc. ==> having backup of this would definitely be an advantage and since full backup is 0.5 GB or whereabout this shouldn't be a problem. 1 + 4 means 100.5 GB backed-up, 1 + 3 + 4 means 200.5 GB backed-up while 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 means 300.5 GB backed-up. With how Vortex currently work, you'll need to backup all 300.5 GB worth of data. If on the other hand Vortex learned to export and import a list of mods for #2 and #3 with Vortex automatically using correct FOMOD-choices etc., and Vortex also learned to export/import the various conflict-rules and profiles in #4, this means you could work with the smaller 100.5 GB backup. As an added bonus, if Vortex had the option of exporting/importing mods and conflicts, this would make it possible to uninstall one game + all mods for this game, and this way you'll get enough free space to install another game. Bottom line is, Vortex backup is currently all or nothing, meaning instead of having a small 0.5 GB backup or medium 100.5 GB backup, you'll in my example need 300.5 GB backup. Thankfully other tools like Steam is much better, since in Steam you don't need to download a few TB just to play a single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 i back up everything. ev-er-y-thing.i don't care how big my archives are, i have enough storage to cope. if i need to restore from a backup, i can and have done it. nothing lost or forgotten.but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugustaCalidia Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 @1ae0bfb8 You've got the right approach. Using Macrium Reflect I back up everything on a regular schedule. It's as simple as pushing a few keys on the keyboard and then letting the system backup overnight. Over the years this has saved me from a lot of headaches and heartaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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