Windows 8 & a frozen mouse/cursor

[lovetoflyguy]

Hello!

 

I've run into a strange problem with Oblivion (GotY) on Windows 8 - my mouse seems to stay in the 'background' when Oblivion launches. I seem to have mouse control through the intro movies, but the mouse stops responding as soon as the Tamriel map & main menu (continue, load, new... etc) appear. I've also noticed that my system cursor will appear at the top of the main menu screen. I can load saved games using the keyboard arrow keys, and I can move my character with the keyboard, just not with the mouse. What makes this really strange is that it was working just fine until recently... This is a screenshot of the menu: Photobucket.

 

When I alt-tab to get out of Oblivion (which is the only way), I see the following options:

'snapped desktop'

'immersive background'

'oblivion'

 

What I would be thinking at this point is 'since it was working before, what did you change?' The answer is I've installed a few programs that worked just fine in XP and which seem to work problem free in W8; they are CursorFX (stardock), Kensington's trackball app (I forget the name - 'trackmaster' or something like that). I've since uninstalled both programs, but the problem persists. Here's a screenshot of my currently installed programs: Photobucket2

 

I've generated a new oblivion.ini and confirmed the following settings:

bBackground Mouse=0

bBackground Keyboard=0

bUse Joystick=1

 

 

Here's my load order if anyone is interested:

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  underdark.esm
02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3.2]
03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
04  Harvest[Containers].esm
05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]
06  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
07  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]
08  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
09  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.2.3]
0A  BreakUndies.esm
**  Oblivion Vwalk.esp
0B  TRoN.esp
**  TRoN Vwalk.esp
**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL Vwalk.esp
**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]
**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]
0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.1]
**  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
0D  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp
**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp
0F  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]
10  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.33]
11  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]
12  OBGE - Liquid Water.esp
13  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
14  WindowLightingSystem.esp
15  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
16  ChaseCameraMod.esp
17  FlyingCameraMod.esp  [Version 1.3]
18  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
19  Female Lich.esp
1A  P1DseeYouSleep.esp
1B  Unlimited Weapon Recharge.esp
1C  wd purse of wonders.esp
1D  BookTrackerOBSE.esp
1E  FormID Finder4.esp
1F  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
20  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
21  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
22  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]
23  DLCHorseArmor.esp
24  DLCOrrery.esp
**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
25  DLCVileLair.esp
26  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp
27  DLCSpellTomes.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
28  Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp
29  FLY Armor and Clothing - Non-replacers.esp
++  FLY Armor and Clothing - NR Leveled Lists.esp
2A  Mage Equipment.esp
2B  Merged Plugin-14.esp
**  Armamentium female.esp
2C  daedric BU.esp
++  DMRA BBB Better Cities.esp
2D  Zira's Horse Modpack - My Horses.esp
2E  Zira's Horse Modpack - Friesian Horses.esp
2F  Zira's Horse Modpack - Shadowmere.esp
30  Zira's Horse Modpack - Extra Horses.esp
31  Zira's Horse Modpack - More Horses.esp
32  Zira's Horse Modpack - Armored Legion Horses.esp
33  DLCThievesDen.esp
**  DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp
34  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
35  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]
36  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]
37  Harvest[Containers].esp
**  Mart's Monster Mod.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
38  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
39  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
3C  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
3F  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
40  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
41  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
42  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 0.92]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Wisp and VASE Addon.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
43  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creatures Expansion.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp
44  Mart's Monster Mod - Mummies.esp
++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
45  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]
46  00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp
47  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]
**  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
48  Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp  [Version 2.01]
49  Better Benirus Manor.esp  [Version 4.72-IO-Cobl-SI]
**  Better Benirus Manor - AN Patch.esp  [Version 4.72-Natural]
4A  Better Benirus Manor - RL Patch.esp  [Version 4.72]
++  Better Benirus Manor - SYS Patch.esp  [Version 4.72]
4B  DMwardropemerged.esp
4C  Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp
4D  EMBridgeHouse.esp
4E  EM_RedRoseManor.esp  [Version 2.0]
4F  ICEXPAND.esp  [Version 1.5BCE]
50  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
51  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
**  Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp
52  Naughty_Joana_01.esp
53  SenTineL's Legendary Weapons And Armors.esp
54  TinyHouse.esp
55  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
56  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
57  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
58  Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp
59  WaterlilyCottage1.esp  [Version 1.1]
5A  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
5B  DLCFrostcrag.esp
5C  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
5D  Knights.esp
**  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
**  Knights Vwalk.esp
**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
5E  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
5F  Colourwheels Sexy Tavern HGEC.esp
60  Colourwheels Sexy Skyrim Outpost HGEC.esp
61  Colourwheels Sexy Ayelid Shrine.esp
62  Frostcrag Village.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
63  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
64  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
65  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
66  DZ_Auto_Harvest.esp
67  AlendrialsLibrary.esp
68  Automagic Bags.esp  [Version 4.03]
69  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]
6A  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
++  Everlasting Corpses v 1.0.esp
6B  Mature Spriggan.esp
++  Nude Humanlike Spriggan.esp
++  Nude Humanlike Spriggan Tweaked.esp
6C  PPPickUpBook.esp
++  Sexy Dark Seducer & Golden Saint Armour.esp
6D  Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
6E  RestoreAllAttributesSpell.esp
++  Maethlin's Skilltweak.esp
6F  Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp
70  NoMaaM_BBB.esp
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Spire Revisited.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.76]
71  Nec Mystic Elves-Remake_Merged.esp  [Version 1.0]
72  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
73  Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp  [Version 2.0]
74  IDKRRR_C_race.esp
**  IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp
75  Lattamer.esp
76  Chocolate Elves.esp
77  ahtata dremora.esp
78  Luchaire's Dryad Race for MMM.esp  [Version 1.0]
79  LakesideHome.esp  [Version 2.]
7A  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
++  Female Xivilai.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
7B  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.2.3]
7C  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.2.3]
**  Better Cities Resources Vwalk.esp
**  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
7D  Better Clocks for Better Cities 2_0.esp
++  kuerteeDetectLifeEffect.esp
7E  kuerteeNightEyeShader.esp
7F  SnArrowEffects.esp
++  a4VnlObSI_HiResHGEC-BBB-Fems+RmMales.esp
80  Viconia.esp
81  ViconiaChapterTwo.esp
82  UnderdarkSaga.esp
**  UnderdarkSaga Vwalk.esp
83  UnderdarkMap.esp
**  Sensual Walks.esp
**  Sensual Walks SI.esp
**  Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
++  Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.00]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
++  Maethlin's Marksmanship 3x.esp
84  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: Ahtata_Khabaxi.esp
85  Ahtata_Khabaxi.esp
86  Ahtata Arquamer spike4hair.esp

 

 

I know there's a little weirdness in my mods (I'm working on merging some of them) but since my save games all load fine, I don't think load order is the issue.

 

I just want my cursor back....

 

Any help would be appreciated!

[lovetoflyguy]

Sorry! I forgot to include my system specs:

 

System Specs:

 

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
PhenomII x6 1050t
4 Gb ram
500Gb hdd (system)
2Tb hdd (auxiliary)
GTX-260 (896Mb) @ (1680x1050)

Oblivion installed in:
C:\Games\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion

Executables:
Oblivion.exe: run as Administrator
OblivionLauncher.exe: run as Administrator
obse_loader.exe: run as Administrator

 

 

Thanks!

[Hickory]

Do you have Oblivion running in windowed mode? You can suffer cursor issues if you do.

 

bFull Screen=0

[lovetoflyguy]

Do you have Oblivion running in windowed mode? You can suffer cursor issues if you do.

 

bFull Screen=0

 

Thanks, but I've always run Oblivion in fullscreen.

 

For a while I was running all of the .exe files in compatibility mode for XP, but I found that setting caused a window border to appear around the screen.

 

Other things I've tried:

run ccleaner on my registry (only found a few errors)

checked for recent automatic Windows updates (none this year)

 

It seems to me that this is some kind of conflict with the new 'improved' Windows UI, and I'm sure it will become a more common problem as more people adopt Win8.

 

Thanks for the suggestion, keep 'em coming!

[Striker879]

My own Oblivion.ini has 'bUse Joystick=0' rather than 'bUse Joystick=1' (I use mouse and keyboard for controls). This is what Koroush Ghazi has to say about that setting in his Oblivion Tweak Guide:

bUse Joystick=0 - Set to 0 if you don't have a joystick connected, some people claim this improves FPS and resolves mouse/input lag.

Any specific reason you have yours set to one?

[lovetoflyguy]

My own Oblivion.ini has 'bUse Joystick=0' rather than 'bUse Joystick=1' (I use mouse and keyboard for controls). This is what Koroush Ghazi has to say about that setting in his Oblivion Tweak Guide:

bUse Joystick=0 - Set to 0 if you don't have a joystick connected, some people claim this improves FPS and resolves mouse/input lag.

Any specific reason you have yours set to one?

 

Thanks, I'll change that! That's actually the default setting which I haven't changed since regenerating the oblivion.ini.

 

On another note, PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

 

It seems that the Kensington mouse driver was causing my problem. I had uninstalled the Kensington trackball app and had assumed that their driver had also been purged, which was not the case. I rolled back the mouse driver to the stock MS one, and voila! Oblivion is happy again!

 

Many thanks to everyone who read & responded!