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So I've spent about 2 dozen hours trying to troubleshoot these mods and I can't identify the problem. What makes it more of a pain is the game crashes inconsistently. Sometimes it will crash before I load the game. Sometimes it will crash during a load (including from when one dies). I went through each mod one by one, but to no available I'd go through 20 of them with everything working fine then suddenly 21 crashes then 20 then 19 then 18 and on and on until finally it stabilizes then I add mods back one by one and then I have gone through the same thing mods that I thought weren't causing the crash suddenly I had to remove again. Between all of the loading and closing and testing this has been enormously time consuming. So I'm hoping someone more experienced and knowledge might show me some love and help me to figure out why the game is crashing inconsistently. You will note some dirty plugins there. I had used FO4 edit to clean them, but it appeared to make the issue worse until I had to do a clean install of all the mods again. Thank you in advance!

From Loot Load Order

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 TrueStormsFO4.esm
9 9 HUDFramework.esm
10 a ArmorKeywords.esm
254 FE 0 SettlementSalvageBot.esl
11 b SimSettlements.esm
254 FE 1 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_AbernathyFarm.esl
254 FE 2 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Castle.esl
254 FE 3 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CoastalCottage.esl
254 FE 4 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CountyCrossing.esl
254 FE 5 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Covenant.esl
254 FE 6 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CroupManor.esl
254 FE 7 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_DaltonFarm.esl
254 FE 8 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_EchoLake.esl
254 FE 9 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_EgretToursMarina.esl
254 FE a SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_FinchFarm.esl
254 FE b SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Graygarden.esl
254 FE c SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_GreentopNursery.esl
254 FE d SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_HangmansAlley.esl
254 FE e SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_JamaicaPlain.esl
254 FE f SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_KingsportLighthouse.esl
254 FE 10 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_LongfellowsCabin.esl
254 FE 11 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_MechanistsLair.esl
254 FE 12 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Murkwater.esl
254 FE 13 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Nordhagen.esl
254 FE 14 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_OberlandStation.esl
254 FE 15 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_OutpostZimonja.esl
254 FE 16 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_RedRocket.esl
254 FE 17 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_SanctuaryHills.esl
254 FE 18 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Slog.esl
254 FE 19 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Somerville.esl
254 FE 1a SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_StarlightDrivein.esl
254 FE 1b SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_SunshineTidings.esl
254 FE 1c SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_TaffingtonBoathouse.esl
254 FE 1d SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_TenpinesBluff.esl
254 FE 1e SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Vault88.esl
254 FE 1f SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_VisitorCenter.esl
254 FE 20 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_WarwickHomestead.esl
12 c Homemaker.esm
13 d SettlementKeywords.esm
14 e ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp
15 f Better Manufacturing.esp
16 10 ManufacturingExtended.esp
17 11 BetterModDescriptions.esp
18 12 LegendaryModification.esp
19 13 Better Manufacturing - Legendary Modification Additions.esp
20 14 Better Manufacturing - Menu Organization.esp
21 15 Better Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Additions.esp
22 16 DLC items to manufacturing.esp
23 17 Better Manufacturing - Manufacturing Extended Expanded Patch WO.esp
24 18 Weapons Re-Weighted DLC Nuka World.esp
254 FE 21 Weightless Ammo - All DLC.esp
25 19 AryanMaxson.esp
26 1a Perks Unleashed.esp
27 1b IncreasedCarryWeightPlus.esp
28 1c IncreasedCarryWeight.esp
29 1d FactionPinups.esp
30 1e ValkyrieAIpilot.esp
31 1f None Powered Armor Delivery.esp
32 20 Nodas_EquipmentRecycler.esp
33 21 DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp
34 22 AlternateSettlements.esp
254 FE 22 WET.esp
35 23 Wireless Power.esp
36 24 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
37 25 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
38 26 Synths Revamped.esp
39 27 PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp
40 28 Magnificent Spectacle Island by HZS and JC.esp
41 29 3DNPC_FO4.esp
42 2a Vault98.esp
43 2b Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - V81.esp
44 2c Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
45 2d MosesSubmarine.esp
46 2e Rebuilt_CroupManor.esp
47 2f Some Assembly Required.esp
48 30 Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Institute.esp
49 31 Buildable_PAFrames.esp
50 32 Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp
51 33 x6rom.esp
52 34 SnapBeds.esp
53 35 SettleObjExpandPack.esp
54 36 RichMerchants.esp
55 37 Realistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.esp
254 FE 23 RBMonogamy.esp
56 38 AA FusionCityRising.esp
57 39 RRTV_GoodneighborCondo.esp
58 3a W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
59 3b Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Prydwen.esp
60 3c RRTV_HomesAndBunkers_Coastal.esp
61 3d Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp
62 3e Eli_RV DC Home.esp
63 3f functionalobjects_vanilla.esp
64 40 More Smarter Companions Mod.esp
65 41 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp
66 42 Targeting Sensors on Recon Scopes.esp
67 43 More Pre-War Assets.esp
68 44 RRTV_CourierStations.esp
69 45 Eli_Bunker.esp
70 46 MakeYourOwnSynths.esp
71 47 TransferSettlements.esp
72 48 Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
73 49 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
74 4a TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
75 4b Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul.esp
76 4c Vault-tec brighter lights.esp
77 4d cartman1975_warehouse.esp
78 4e FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
79 4f MTO City Males.esp
80 50 MTO DLCCoast.esp
81 51 MTO DLCCoast Acadia.esp
82 52 MTO DLCCoast City.esp
83 53 MTO DLCCoast CoA.esp
84 54 MTO DLCNukaWorld.esp
85 55 MTO DLCNuka City.esp
86 56 MTO DLCNuka Disciple.esp
87 57 MTO DLCNuka Operator.esp
88 58 MTO DLCNuka Other.esp
89 59 MTO DLCNuka Pack.esp
90 5a MTO DLCRobot.esp
91 5b MTO DLCworkshop02.esp
92 5c MTO DLCworkshop03.esp
93 5d MTO Enemy Males.esp
94 5e MTO Gage.esp
95 5f MTO Hancock.esp
96 60 MTO Institute Males.esp
97 61 MTO Longfellow.esp
98 62 MTO Miscellaneous Males.esp
99 63 MTO Minutemen Males.esp
100 64 MTO Railroad Males.esp
101 65 MTO Strong.esp
102 66 MTO Supportive Men.esp
103 67 MTO X688.esp
104 68 Summer Roses.esp
105 69 FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
106 6a EpilogueRestored.esp
107 6b Binary Speech Checks V.4 Forgiving.esp
108 6c LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
109 6d LegendaryModification2LM.esp
110 6e LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM).esp
111 6f LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp
112 70 LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
113 71 LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
114 72 LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
115 73 Weapons Re-Weighted V1.1.esp
116 74 Weapons Re-Weighted DLC Far Harbour.esp
117 75 AS_CraftableInstituteStations.esp
118 76 ZIR_RefurbishedFurnishings.esp
119 77 More Pre-War Assets Contraptions.esp
120 78 AtomicRadio.esp
121 79 PrivateVertibird.esp
122 7a StoreAllJunk_SeasonPassEdition.esp
123 7b SalvageBeacons.esp
124 7c BetterGenerators.esp
125 7d Better Workshop Street Oil Lamps - Shadows.esp
126 7e Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp
127 7f Brotherhood Power Armor Overhaul.esp
128 80 PAMAP.esp
129 81 MTO BoS Males.esp
130 82 Better Settlement Defence.esp
131 83 KSHairdos.esp
132 84 CROSS_Jetpack.esp
133 85 DD_MMX_Faction_Flags_AlwaysAvail.esp
134 86 HandsomeHankPreset.esp
135 87 Insignificant Object Remover.esp
136 88 LooksMenu.esp
137 89 LongerPowerLines3x.esp
138 8a Hairstyles for Male and Female.esp
139 8b Preston Garvey by TheMajesticNoob.esp
140 8c MiscHairstyle.esp
141 8d BPAO - PAMAP 2.0 Automatron Patch.esp
142 8e BPAO - Automatron Patch.esp
143 8f CPAO - PAMAP 2.0 Patch.esp
144 90 EastTunnelsAligned.esp
145 91 MTM-Vault88-RLRST.esp
146 92 Eli_Display Shelves.esp
254 FE 24 FAR.esp
147 93 FunctionalDisplays.esp
148 94 FunctionalDisplays-AID-Weightless.esp
149 95 GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp
150 96 Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
254 FE 25 RBMECPoses.esp
151 97 ModularVault.esp
152 98 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
153 99 ZIR_VendorCounters.esp
154 9a NegativeAffinityIsPositiveAffinity.esp
155 9b Northland Diggers New.esp
156 9c NorthlandDiggers-SummerRoses.esp
157 9d PaintingPortals+FarHarborDLC.esp
158 9e PlayerMarriage.esp
159 9f AES_Renovated Furniture.esp
160 a0 SettlementMenuManager.esp
161 a1 More Where That Came From - Classic.esp
162 a2 AlternateFurniture.esp
163 a3 NoAffinityCooldown.esp
164 a4 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Weightless.esp
165 a5 Better Vendor Stalls.esp
166 a6 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-Weightless.esp
167 a7 Northland Diggers.esp
168 a8 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp
169 a9 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp
170 aa OWR.esp
171 ab OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
172 ac OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
173 ad OWR_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp
174 ae Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp

Know to CTD at startup

MTO City Males.esp


Known to not CTD at startup

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
8 8 HUDFramework.esm
9 9 TrueStormsFO4.esm
10 a SettlementKeywords.esm
11 b ArmorKeywords.esm
254 FE 0 SettlementSalvageBot.esl
12 c SimSettlements.esm
254 FE 1 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_AbernathyFarm.esl
254 FE 2 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Castle.esl
254 FE 3 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CoastalCottage.esl
254 FE 4 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CountyCrossing.esl
254 FE 5 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Covenant.esl
254 FE 6 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_CroupManor.esl
254 FE 7 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_DaltonFarm.esl
254 FE 8 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_EchoLake.esl
254 FE 9 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_EgretToursMarina.esl
254 FE a SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_FinchFarm.esl
254 FE b SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Graygarden.esl
254 FE c SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_GreentopNursery.esl
254 FE d SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_HangmansAlley.esl
254 FE e SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_JamaicaPlain.esl
254 FE f SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_KingsportLighthouse.esl
254 FE 10 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_LongfellowsCabin.esl
254 FE 11 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_MechanistsLair.esl
254 FE 12 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Murkwater.esl
254 FE 13 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Nordhagen.esl
254 FE 14 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_OberlandStation.esl
254 FE 15 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_OutpostZimonja.esl
254 FE 16 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_RedRocket.esl
254 FE 17 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_SanctuaryHills.esl
254 FE 18 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Slog.esl
254 FE 19 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Somerville.esl
254 FE 1a SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_StarlightDrivein.esl
254 FE 1b SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_SunshineTidings.esl
254 FE 1c SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_TaffingtonBoathouse.esl
254 FE 1d SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_TenpinesBluff.esl
254 FE 1e SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_Vault88.esl
254 FE 1f SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_VisitorCenter.esl
254 FE 20 SimSettlements_RotC_Complex_WarwickHomestead.esl
13 d Perks Unleashed.esp
14 e IncreasedCarryWeightPlus.esp
15 f IncreasedCarryWeight.esp
16 10 Insignificant Object Remover.esp
17 11 LongerPowerLines3x.esp
18 12 LooksMenu.esp
254 FE 21 RBMECPoses.esp
19 13 More Where That Came From - Classic.esp
20 14 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
21 15 PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp
22 16 Magnificent Spectacle Island by HZS and JC.esp
23 17 MiscHairstyle.esp
24 18 ZIR_VendorCounters.esp
25 19 AryanMaxson.esp
26 1a DLC items to manufacturing.esp
27 1b ManufacturingExtended.esp
28 1c ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp
29 1d NegativeAffinityIsPositiveAffinity.esp
30 1e Nodas_EquipmentRecycler.esp
31 1f Northland Diggers New.esp
32 20 Summer Roses.esp
33 21 NorthlandDiggers-SummerRoses.esp
34 22 NoAffinityCooldown.esp
35 23 xA_Vault88Extras.esp
36 24 PaintingPortals+FarHarborDLC.esp
37 25 Targeting Sensors on Recon Scopes.esp
38 26 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
39 27 TransferSettlements.esp
40 28 PlayerMarriage.esp
41 29 ValkyrieAIpilot.esp
42 2a None Powered Armor Delivery.esp
43 2b VaultPlus.esp
44 2c Wall Oil Lamps.esp
45 2d TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
46 2e Realistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.esp
47 2f RichMerchants.esp
48 30 AES_Renovated Furniture.esp
49 31 SnapBeds.esp
50 32 Synths Revamped.esp
51 33 OWR_CraftableDecor.esp
52 34 OWR_CraftableDecor_CW.esp
53 35 OWR_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.esp
54 36 Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
55 37 TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
56 38 3DNPC_FO4.esp
57 39 Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp
58 3a Vault98.esp
59 3b Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - V81.esp
60 3c Rebuilt_CroupManor.esp
61 3d Some Assembly Required.esp
62 3e RRTV_GoodneighborCondo.esp
63 3f x6rom.esp
64 40 More Smarter Companions Mod.esp
65 41 W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
66 42 Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Prydwen.esp
254 FE 22 RBMonogamy.esp
67 43 RRTV_HomesAndBunkers_Coastal.esp
68 44 Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp
69 45 Eli_RV DC Home.esp
70 46 3DNPC_FO4Settler.esp
71 47 Eli_Bunker.esp
72 48 ZIR_RefurbishedFurnishings.esp
73 49 More Pre-War Assets Contraptions.esp
74 4a More Pre-War Assets.esp
75 4b MoreVaultRooms.esp
76 4c VaultPlus_MVR.esp
77 4d MakeYourOwnSynths.esp
78 4e PrivateVertibird.esp
79 4f EpilogueRestored.esp
80 50 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
254 FE 23 WET.esp
81 51 Wireless Power.esp
254 FE 24 Weightless Ammo - All DLC.esp
82 52 Weapons Re-Weighted DLC Nuka World.esp
83 53 Binary Speech Checks V.4 Forgiving.esp
84 54 AtomicRadio.esp
85 55 SalvageBeacons.esp
86 56 OWR.esp
87 57 BetterGenerators.esp
88 58 MTM-Vault88-RLRST.esp
89 59 Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul.esp
90 5a Vault-tec brighter lights.esp
91 5b AlternateSettlements.esp
92 5c AdvBubbleTurretSet.esp
93 5d AlternateFurniture.esp
94 5e Better Vendor Stalls.esp
95 5f Northland Diggers.esp
96 60 SettleObjExpandPack.esp
97 61 SettlementMenuManager.esp
98 62 AS_CraftableInstituteStations.esp
99 63 Hairstyles for Male and Female.esp
100 64 BetterModDescriptions.esp
101 65 LegendaryModification.esp
102 66 LegendaryModification2LM.esp
103 67 LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
104 68 LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM).esp
105 69 LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp
106 6a LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
107 6b LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
108 6c LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
109 6d Weapons Re-Weighted V1.1.esp
110 6e Weapons Re-Weighted DLC Far Harbour.esp
111 6f Preston Garvey by TheMajesticNoob.esp
112 70 Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp
113 71 Brotherhood Power Armor Overhaul.esp
114 72 FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
115 73 FunctionalDisplays.esp
116 74 FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp
117 75 ReusableSPECIAL.esp
118 76 FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL.esp
119 77 ModularVault.esp
120 78 cartman1975_warehouse.esp
121 79 MTO BoS Males.esp
122 7a MTO DLCCoast.esp
123 7b MTO DLCCoast Acadia.esp
124 7c MTO DLCCoast City.esp
125 7d MTO DLCCoast CoA.esp
126 7e MTO DLCNukaWorld.esp
127 7f MTO DLCNuka City.esp
128 80 MTO DLCNuka Disciple.esp
129 81 MTO DLCNuka Operator.esp
130 82 MTO DLCNuka Other.esp
131 83 MTO DLCNuka Pack.esp
132 84 MTO DLCRobot.esp
133 85 MTO DLCworkshop02.esp
134 86 MTO DLCworkshop03.esp
135 87 MTO Enemy Males.esp
136 88 MTO Gage.esp
137 89 MTO Hancock.esp
138 8a MTO Institute Males.esp
139 8b MTO Longfellow.esp
140 8c MTO Miscellaneous Males.esp
141 8d MTO Minutemen Males.esp
142 8e MTO Railroad Males.esp
143 8f MTO Strong.esp
144 90 MTO Supportive Men.esp
145 91 MTO X688.esp
146 92 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp


From Loot Content

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Alright I removed about 30 mods I can do without and I thought might cause crashes. I hope it helps with troubleshooting. Right now the crashes are still happening.

Alright I have added a new section in the post "Known to not CTD at startup"
I have decided to do a more thorough troubleshooting booting things up to 5 times to verify no CTD

 

Right now I have identified the MTO City Males plugin to be causing a crash to desktop.

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