Zekthros Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 The worst thing about this problem is that it's a bit random, sometimes it'll happen after three loadings/dyings or sometimes it'll happen after several ones, and i don't know what's causing it.- I sort load order with LOOT and fix ITMs with the SSEdit, this ain't the problem (they're updated too).- This also happens in a new save.- I tried reseting the INIs and using the BethINI and the recommended tweaks, but it keeps happening. This is my load order:0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp6 6 RSkyrimChildren.esm7 7 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm8 8 3DNPC.esp9 9 EpicRestoration.esm10 a Campfire.esm11 b SkyUI_SE.esp12 c FloraRespawnFix.esp13 d LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp14 e SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp15 f Vivid WeathersSE.esp16 10 Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp17 11 KS Hairdo's.esp18 12 Dragon Stalking Fix.esp19 13 RaceMenu.esp20 14 RaceMenuPlugin.esp21 15 Lupine_YyvengarBodypaints.esp22 16 Lupine_ZiovendianBodypaints.esp23 17 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp24 18 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp25 19 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp26 1a UIExtensions.esp27 1b AddItemMenuSE.esp28 1c Footprints.esp29 1d FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp30 1e SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp254 FE 0 FTF_Core.esp31 1f SRC - All In One.esp32 20 Undeath.esp33 21 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp34 22 RSChildren.esp35 23 Morrowind_Miscellania_Overhaul.esp36 24 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp37 25 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp38 26 The Miracle of Flight.esp39 27 AMatterOfTime.esp40 28 Cutting Room Floor.esp41 29 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp42 2a OBIS SE.esp43 2b ESFCompanions.esp44 2c MisterBs Lootable Things.esp254 FE 1 radiantBlocker.esp45 2d LCO_Framework.esp46 2e LCO_AllInOne.esp47 2f Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp48 30 KS Dragon Overhaul 2.esp49 31 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp50 32 DIS_Armor_Compilation.esp51 33 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp52 34 Hunterborn.esp53 35 OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp54 36 Immersive Weapons.esp55 37 Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp56 38 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp57 39 Immersive Encounters.esp58 3a Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp59 3b Arcanum.esp60 3c Beards.esp61 3d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp62 3e DSer360MovementBehavior.esp63 3f VioLens SE.esp64 40 More Interesting Loot Remastered.esp65 41 StavesofSkyrim.esp66 42 Inigo.esp67 43 XPMSE.esp68 44 Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp69 45 Keeping Warm.esp70 46 DIS_Authentic_Legion.esp71 47 Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp72 48 art_StarsightEyes.esp73 49 50 More Perk Points.esp74 4a Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp75 4b Hirsute Beards.esp76 4c Elemental Eyes.esp77 4d KhajiitMane.esp78 4e WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp79 4f AHZmoreHUD.esp80 50 iHUD.esp254 FE 2 3DNPC0.esp81 51 Bring Out Your Dead.esp82 52 Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp83 53 NewArmoury.esp84 54 ZIA_Ancient Pack.esp85 55 ZIA_Daedric Pack.esp86 56 DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp87 57 NB-Scars.esp88 58 SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp89 59 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp90 5a Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp91 5b DeadlySpellImpacts.esp92 5c DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp93 5d Spells Emit Light - Bright.esp94 5e No Edge Glow - Magic and Transformations.esp95 5f Skysan_Icicle.esp96 60 Black Mage Armor SE.esp97 61 KS Dragonrend Overhaul.esp98 62 KSDRO - Thunderchild Patch.esp99 63 Undeath Ascension.esp100 64 Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp101 65 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp102 66 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp103 67 StaticSkillLeveling.espJaxonzRenamer.esp104 68 LeggingsReturnStandalone.esp105 69 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp106 6a PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp107 6b chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp108 6c MaskofBlades.esp109 6d DultusMasks.esp110 6e Icactors.esp111 6f Heart Breaker SE.esp112 70 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp113 71 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp114 72 AFT - 3DNPC Patch.esp115 73 AmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.esp116 74 Spellsword Cuirass.esp117 75 Predator Vision.esp118 76 Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp254 FE 3 Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp254 FE 4 Hunterborn - Predator Vision Compatibilty Patch.esp119 77 HornsAreForever.esp120 78 BRB_BeastRaceBodypaints.esp121 79 ArgonianFins.esp122 7a honedmetal.espFNIS.esp123 7b HairsBeastRace - Extended Plus.esp124 7c VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp125 7d CatKing.esp126 7e konahrik_accoutrements.esp127 7f DogKing.esp254 FE 5 mihailhousecat.esp128 80 notice board.esp129 81 SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp130 82 Notice Board MCM.esp254 FE 6 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp131 83 Spellsword.esp132 84 SpellswordEmergence.esp133 85 OrcHearthfire.esp134 86 PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp135 87 vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp136 88 LTEB.esp137 89 My Home Is Your Home.esp138 8a Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp139 8b The Dark Arts.esp140 8c ZTH.esp141 8d FireBurns.esp142 8e Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp143 8f ESFCompanions_OCS.esp144 90 mihailtoxindoctoroutfit.esp145 91 Evil MasterMind Armor.esp146 92 archSaveHotKeySE-MCM.esp147 93 DIS_Armor_Fractions.esp148 94 Bad Slaughterfish.esp149 95 Companions Radiant Quests Requirement.esp254 FE 7 UnlimitedFastTravelMCM.esp150 96 UsefulDogs.esp151 97 DwKn.esp152 98 dwamg.esp153 99 dwbp.esp154 9a dwhg.esp254 FE 8 TESL-LoadingScreens.esp155 9b EpicRestorationDawnguard.esp156 9c EpicRestorationDragonborn.esp157 9d [full_inu] Lord Nicholas Armor.esp158 9e [full_inu] Medieval Knight Armor.esp159 9f ZNI.esp160 a0 Unique Uniques.esp161 a1 UniqueBarbas.esp162 a2 SmartNoMoreStupidDog.esp254 FE 9 SoulGemDestruction.esp163 a3 Holy Hand Grenade.esp164 a4 JZBai_ThrowingWpnsLite.esp165 a5 JZBai_ThrowingWpnsLite_LL.esp166 a6 CMO - Witcher 3 - Northerner Diaries.esp167 a7 Optional Less Combat Music.esp168 a8 CombatSurrender.esp254 FE a BattleBrothers.esp254 FE b RadEx_NoticeBoard.esp169 a9 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp170 aa Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp171 ab aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp172 ac Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp173 ad Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp174 ae ShockSpellUpgrades.esp175 af Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp176 b0 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp177 b1 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp178 b2 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp179 b3 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp180 b4 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp181 b5 ETaC - Complete.esp182 b6 BUVARP.esp183 b7 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp184 b8 TheChoiceIsYours.esp185 b9 Convenient Horses.esp186 ba Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.espETaC - Complete RSC Patch.esp254 FE c CWIOOSEPatchAIO.esp254 FE d CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp254 FE e ICOW_KA_Patch.esp187 bb WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp254 FE f Bashed Patch, 0.esp188 bc Atlas Map Markers.esp189 bd Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekthros Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 I don't see anything particularly alarming in your list, or at least that stands out to me...erm, with the *possible exception of the bashed patch. I don;t use bashed patches myself (I'm just not familiar), but I *have read several posts where people had issues that turned out to be associated with bashed patches. Aside from that, I had an issue with existing saves when my game got updated a month or so ago (steam hiccuped, and I had to "play online" to get it working again...automatic update ensued...since resolved that steam confg fwiw) When I got the game running again (SKSE 2.0.17, replacing a bunch of mods that had SKSE dependencies), all my old saves (one char at level 62, another at level 50-something) acted that way. load to black screen. I overrode the fade-to-black transitional stuff in the ini file and during subsequent loads, found all my saves were t-boned with no menu no console, forcing a ctrl-alt-del to task manager to shut down the game. I eventually gave up and started a new game and all has been well (ish) since. try creating a new game. (yes I heard that groan) best I can offer to your bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekthros Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 I don't see anything particularly alarming in your list, or at least that stands out to me...erm, with the *possible exception of the bashed patch. I don;t use bashed patches myself (I'm just not familiar), but I *have read several posts where people had issues that turned out to be associated with bashed patches. Aside from that, I had an issue with existing saves when my game got updated a month or so ago (steam hiccuped, and I had to "play online" to get it working again...automatic update ensued...since resolved that steam confg fwiw) When I got the game running again (SKSE 2.0.17, replacing a bunch of mods that had SKSE dependencies), all my old saves (one char at level 62, another at level 50-something) acted that way. load to black screen. I overrode the fade-to-black transitional stuff in the ini file and during subsequent loads, found all my saves were t-boned with no menu no console, forcing a ctrl-alt-del to task manager to shut down the game. I eventually gave up and started a new game and all has been well (ish) since. try creating a new game. (yes I heard that groan) best I can offer to your bump.Hmm, i don't think making a new game would fix it since it also happens on those (i already tried with a new save). I'll try to disable the bashed patch, maybe that's my problem, thanks for replying anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjenthedog Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I don't see anything particularly alarming in your list, or at least that stands out to me...erm, with the *possible exception of the bashed patch. I don;t use bashed patches myself (I'm just not familiar), but I *have read several posts where people had issues that turned out to be associated with bashed patches. Aside from that, I had an issue with existing saves when my game got updated a month or so ago (steam hiccuped, and I had to "play online" to get it working again...automatic update ensued...since resolved that steam confg fwiw) When I got the game running again (SKSE 2.0.17, replacing a bunch of mods that had SKSE dependencies), all my old saves (one char at level 62, another at level 50-something) acted that way. load to black screen. I overrode the fade-to-black transitional stuff in the ini file and during subsequent loads, found all my saves were t-boned with no menu no console, forcing a ctrl-alt-del to task manager to shut down the game. I eventually gave up and started a new game and all has been well (ish) since. try creating a new game. (yes I heard that groan) best I can offer to your bump.Hmm, i don't think making a new game would fix it since it also happens on those (i already tried with a new save). I'll try to disable the bashed patch, maybe that's my problem, thanks for replying anyways. Ok, so you already tired tried a new game. That's what I was getting at. if you'd already said that earlier, I guess I missed it. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekthros Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 I don't see anything particularly alarming in your list, or at least that stands out to me...erm, with the *possible exception of the bashed patch. I don;t use bashed patches myself (I'm just not familiar), but I *have read several posts where people had issues that turned out to be associated with bashed patches. Aside from that, I had an issue with existing saves when my game got updated a month or so ago (steam hiccuped, and I had to "play online" to get it working again...automatic update ensued...since resolved that steam confg fwiw) When I got the game running again (SKSE 2.0.17, replacing a bunch of mods that had SKSE dependencies), all my old saves (one char at level 62, another at level 50-something) acted that way. load to black screen. I overrode the fade-to-black transitional stuff in the ini file and during subsequent loads, found all my saves were t-boned with no menu no console, forcing a ctrl-alt-del to task manager to shut down the game. I eventually gave up and started a new game and all has been well (ish) since. try creating a new game. (yes I heard that groan) best I can offer to your bump.Hmm, i don't think making a new game would fix it since it also happens on those (i already tried with a new save). I'll try to disable the bashed patch, maybe that's my problem, thanks for replying anyways. Ok, so you already tired tried a new game. That's what I was getting at. if you'd already said that earlier, I guess I missed it. Good luck Well, looks like the black screen problem after loading was gone, but now a CTD seconds after going outside happens. I'm done with these problems, off to reinstall Skyrim, uninstall all mods and install those that i consider essential. Game got modded until it broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeralSurvivor Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I don't see anything particularly alarming in your list, or at least that stands out to me...erm, with the *possible exception of the bashed patch. I don;t use bashed patches myself (I'm just not familiar), but I *have read several posts where people had issues that turned out to be associated with bashed patches. Aside from that, I had an issue with existing saves when my game got updated a month or so ago (steam hiccuped, and I had to "play online" to get it working again...automatic update ensued...since resolved that steam confg fwiw) When I got the game running again (SKSE 2.0.17, replacing a bunch of mods that had SKSE dependencies), all my old saves (one char at level 62, another at level 50-something) acted that way. load to black screen. I overrode the fade-to-black transitional stuff in the ini file and during subsequent loads, found all my saves were t-boned with no menu no console, forcing a ctrl-alt-del to task manager to shut down the game. I eventually gave up and started a new game and all has been well (ish) since. try creating a new game. (yes I heard that groan) best I can offer to your bump.Hmm, i don't think making a new game would fix it since it also happens on those (i already tried with a new save). I'll try to disable the bashed patch, maybe that's my problem, thanks for replying anyways. Ok, so you already tired tried a new game. That's what I was getting at. if you'd already said that earlier, I guess I missed it. Good luck Well, looks like the black screen problem after loading was gone, but now a CTD seconds after going outside happens. I'm done with these problems, off to reinstall Skyrim, uninstall all mods and install those that i consider essential. Game got modded until it broke. A true son of Skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinold Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) Since the last update of Skyrim SE ( the AE update) broke the game for those like me that forgot (and didn't know update is coming) to disable updates in steam....the mods dependent on SKSE doesn't work. So disable all SKSE dependent mods and your game will run with the mods that doesn't depend on SKSE.Then you gonna have to deal with another problem... the game will run okay but when you save and try to load your saves will freeze on black screen right after your save have been loaded....that is caused because after the update the game uses Visual Studio 2019 instead of the 2015 one.What really happens is that the game load too fast and some of the follower mods (maybe all or even non-follower mods ) don't have enough time to load so when the system try to grabs the reference of the mod to put into the alias, the script runs too fast and the mod's reference haven't got enough time to load, so the script attempts to fill the alias with a Null, causing the game to crash.The temporary solution is to disable all follower mods until better solution. Disable SKSE (not gonna work anyway) and all mods that depend on SKSE, also all mods that depend on mods that depend on SKSE.... You can still launch the game from your mod manager with the rest of your mods but if you want to avoid the crash after loading (the black screen) you need to disable all follower mods ( or at least most of them... some work fine)... after you do that the game won't have the black screen issue but if you try loading your save that was made with all the SKSE and follower mods, it might corrupt your save. Make sure you back them up before trying to load them. If it works you are lucky ... if not ... well consider starting new game with no followers and no SKSE mods until all this is resolved.No SKSE, No Followers, No Physics mods...You can use new lands, quests, non-physics armors and weapons etc. Edited November 13, 2021 by Reinold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluxrino Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Since the last update of Skyrim SE ( the AE update) broke the game for those like me that forgot (and didn't know update is coming) to disable updates in steam....the mods dependent on SKSE doesn't work. So disable all SKSE dependent mods and your game will run with the mods that doesn't depend on SKSE.Then you gonna have to deal with another problem... the game will run okay but when you save and try to load your saves will freeze on black screen right after your save have been loaded....that is caused because after the update the game uses Visual Studio 2019 instead of the 2015 one.What really happens is that the game load too fast and some of the follower mods (maybe all or even non-follower mods ) don't have enough time to load so when the system try to grabs the reference of the mod to put into the alias, the script runs too fast and the mod's reference haven't got enough time to load, so the script attempts to fill the alias with a Null, causing the game to crash.The temporary solution is to disable all follower mods until better solution. Disable SKSE (not gonna work anyway) and all mods that depend on SKSE, also all mods that depend on mods that depend on SKSE.... You can still launch the game from your mod manager with the rest of your mods but if you want to avoid the crash after loading (the black screen) you need to disable all follower mods ( or at least most of them... some work fine)... after you do that the game won't have the black screen issue but if you try loading your save that was made with all the SKSE and follower mods, it might corrupt your save. Make sure you back them up before trying to load them. If it works you are lucky ... if not ... well consider starting new game with no followers and no SKSE mods until all this is resolved.No SKSE, No Followers, No Physics mods...You can use new lands, quests, non-physics armors and weapons etc. So i have absolutely 0 mods on my game as i as going for a full achievement run on steam. However, I am having the exact same issue. I've only been running Creation Club additions so i figured it was that however when I deleted all the Creation Club additions, it still loaded with the same result. A black screen with sound and whenever i press anything it pops up with a windows window saying it has stopped responding and i am forced to close it down... have any idea on why ? because i've tried absolutely everything i've seen online and i still have no idea what is wrong with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Known bug, patch expected this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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