just another guy with CTD's problems

[AudiS3]

Hi everyone,

 

i'm having a lot of CTD's (can only play for 10 minutes).

I would like to know what is causing this, please don't tell me that is a ruined save i have 14 hours invested is this.

Here is the last lines of my last papyrus log:

 

Cannot call ForceRefTo() on a None object, aborting function call

stack:

[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 77

[01/26/2013 - 01:13:59AM] Error: Unable to call UnregisterForUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type

stack:

[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.UnregisterForUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?[None].USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.OnUpdate() - "USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc" Line 79

 

As you can see it's all related to this sucker: USKPCWCampLeadersFixScript.psc, i don't remember having this script

 

And my mod list:

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

SPIKE.esm

UndergroundBathhouse.esm

Magnus50.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

USKP_addon.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-4.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

MintyLightningMod.esp

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

Fantasy Music Overhaul Redone.esp

moredragonloot.esp

RealisticLootList.esp

Zira's Skyrim Horse Base.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

WetandCold.esp

SkyUI.esp

bouncy_bodices_for_unp_bbp.esp

bouncy_booties.esp

bouncy_belts_and_stockings.esp

DemonHunterV2armor.esp

DHuntress.esp

DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp

FlameAtronachArmor.esp

FullBootForKKSA.esp

HeatWavev4.esp

LeatherBackpackBlack-300.esp

Neo's Oriental Dress.esp

Osare GothicLolita.esp

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp

Temptressdressv1.esp

TERAArmors_CBBE.esp

TS_FetishPantyhoseOutfits.esp

TS_StripperDresses.esp

Osare GothicLolita BU.esp

Alduin Bikini.esp

glam_retextured_5_versions.esp

Osare SchoolUniform BU.esp

Outfitsellertele.esp

ViceroyInquisitor.esp

DemonHunter_Scarf.esp

Reaper's Witch of the Wild Outfit.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

CrimsonQuest3.esp

MoreBanditCamps.esp

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp

Syerscote.esp

Thane's Breezehome.esp

ub_invite_any_npc.esp

morerealisticcarrying.esp

AccessibleMerchantStorage.esp

AchieveThat.esp

Babette.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Marriable Serana.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

MidasSkyrim.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp

3DNPC.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

CloseToMakeFollower.esp

Sexier Housecarls.esp

CerwidenCompanion.esp

CerwidenAppearancePatch.esp

LylvieveSisters.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

Lilith.esp

Atlas Map Markers.esp

Atlas Blackreach.esp

Atlas Dawnguard.esp

Atlas Hearthfire.esp

Follower Map Markers.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ReProccer.esp

 

Please someone help me

Thanks

[HeyYou]

What vid card ya got?

[AudiS3]

What vid card ya got?

 

Hi,

I have a classic one LOL ATI Radeon HD 3850, I play with the lowest graphic configuration

[ripple]

Any patterns to your CTDs? Mainly outdoors, in interior cells, when you have a lot of followers, after 4 or 5 cell transitions, etc.

[AudiS3]

Any patterns to your CTDs? Mainly outdoors, in interior cells, when you have a lot of followers, after 4 or 5 cell transitions, etc.

 

Its always outside sometimes right next when load game and sometimes i can walk for 10 minutes

 

And when i fast travel to a big distance for example from Markath to Winderhelm, and i believe just like almost everyone else in riften to

Edited January 26, 2013 by AudiS3

[ripple]

Any mod that adds more spawns or spawn points to the worldspace will make worldspace travel inherently more unstable (how much more unstable depends on what they add and how much of it they add). Mods like 'Warzones', for example (which you don't use). It's not the fault of the mods, but a limitation of the game engine. This one might be a culprit:

 

MoreBanditCamps.esp

 

CTDs can occur just being in the same encounter zone as the mod's edited or added spawn points. Although generally it takes a combination of at least 2 or 3 of those plus conflicts between them to make the worldspace really unstable.

 

The other popular cause of completely random CTDs is when your machine and/or the game engine is being stressed by too many mods that use continually updating scripts. Mods like 'Frostfall', 'Player headtracking' (which you also don't use). 'Wet n' Cold' would be one I recognized from your load order (but one by itself shouldn't have problems).

 

Can you post your BOSS log (with BOSS messages for the esp's)?

Edited January 26, 2013 by ripple

[AudiS3]

Any mod that adds more spawns or spawn points to the worldspace will make worldspace travel inherently more unstable (how much more unstable depends on what they add and how much of it they add). Mods like 'Warzones', for example (which you don't use). It's not the fault of the mods, but a limitation of the game engine. This one might be a culprit:

 

MoreBanditCamps.esp

 

CTDs can occur just being in the same encounter zone as the mod's edited or added spawn points. Although generally it takes a combination of at least 2 or 3 of those plus conflicts between them to make the worldspace really unstable.

 

The other popular cause of completely random CTDs is when your machine and/or the game engine is being stressed by too many mods that use continually updating scripts. Mods like 'Frostfall', 'Player headtracking' (which you also don't use). 'Wet n' Cold' would be one I recognized from your load order (but one by itself shouldn't have problems).

 

Can you post your BOSS log (with BOSS messages for the esp's)?

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

Skyrim.esm Active Checksum: C665FD56

Update.esm Active Checksum: 7F464083Contains dirty edits: 52 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Dawnguard.esm Active Checksum: BD72CCF3Contains dirty edits: 602 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

HearthFires.esm Active Checksum: AF82CE6AContains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

ApachiiHair.esm Active Checksum: 783F7167

ApachiiHairMales.esm Active Checksum: 4D05C883

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active Checksum: C110B173Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

SPIKE.esm Active Checksum: 418D8B2F

UndergroundBathhouse.esm Active Checksum: 2F7A8A4

Magnus50.esp Active Checksum: 1003FA02

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active Checksum: 75511D3CBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

USKP_addon.esp Active Checksum: 55CA16BF

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active Checksum: B854A556Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active Checksum: ED07B97B

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Active Checksum: 3080CEA3

ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-4.esp Active Checksum: E1477150

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active Checksum: 77C47623

MintyLightningMod.esp Active Checksum: A6EFD75F

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp Active Checksum: 71174667

Fantasy Music Overhaul Redone.esp Active Checksum: 228D63A8

moredragonloot.esp Active Checksum: 6C36D066

Zira's Skyrim Horse Base.esp Active Checksum: 86D08FB5Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 47 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Convenient Horses.esp Active Checksum: 53592306

WetandCold.esp Active Checksum: CBD13035

SkyUI.esp Active Checksum: DDE298BF

bouncy_bodices_for_unp_bbp.esp Active Checksum: DC518D95Note: Be sure you have the correct body replacer installed for this esp. Use only one version.

 

bouncy_booties.esp Active Checksum: E93CAE3DNote: Be sure you have the correct bouncy_bodices mod installed for this esp.

 

bouncy_belts_and_stockings.esp Active Checksum: DEB58C13Requires: UNP or UNPB body. Should work with all versions.

 

DemonHunterV2armor.esp Active Checksum: FFD3A00DRequires: CBBE female body.

 

DHuntress.esp Active Checksum: 35F0F141Requires: CBBE female body.

 

DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp Active Checksum: FCB07607

FlameAtronachArmor.esp Active Checksum: 4CB65954Requires: CBBE female body.

 

FullBootForKKSA.esp Active Checksum: 2A065A06Requires: CBBE female body.

 

HeatWavev4.esp Active Checksum: B5433CE6

LeatherBackpackBlack-300.esp Active Checksum: AADAA051Note: Use only one LeatherBackPack Black esp

 

Neo's Oriental Dress.esp Active Checksum: A650212D

Osare GothicLolita.esp Active Checksum: 1AD3A759

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp Active Checksum: 3C306483Note: Be sure you have the correct body mod for the esp. DIMONIZED UNP or CBBE.

 

Temptressdressv1.esp Active Checksum: FC98E789

TERAArmors_CBBE.esp Active Checksum: 1D3662EFRequires: CBBE female body.

 

TS_FetishPantyhoseOutfits.esp Active Checksum: 8F1944AD

TS_StripperDresses.esp Active Checksum: D0385856

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active Checksum: 5D9D8E39

CrimsonQuest3.esp Active Checksum: 9267F2DBContains dirty edits: 35 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

MoreBanditCamps.esp Active Checksum: 83C325B1Contains dirty edits: 33 ITM, 36 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Active Checksum: 22764CACRequires: CBBE

 

Syerscote.esp Active Checksum: B999C95DContains dirty edits: 23 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Thane's Breezehome.esp Active Checksum: E6F7E10A

ub_invite_any_npc.esp Active Checksum: 4C0EB8EF

morerealisticcarrying.esp Active Checksum: 21A65176

AccessibleMerchantStorage.esp Active Checksum: 4761C268

AchieveThat.esp Active Checksum: D89B7BF5

Babette.esp Active Checksum: 6596E3CFContains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active Checksum: BCD35920

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active Checksum: F99AC53B

Immersive Weapons.esp Active Checksum: A2A9C008Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit)

 

Marriable Serana.esp Active Checksum: 8153B68B

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active Checksum: 264C49AD

dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active Checksum: 70B29290

MidasSkyrim.esp Active Checksum: D931DDED

SkyRe_Main.esp Active Checksum: 48B3917FBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

Warning: The SkyRe has many conflicts with other mods. Please read the readme before playing with mod. This will prevent many problems. Read it here.

Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'

Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.

Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

Note: [Actor]

Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

Note: [Combat]

Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

 

SkyRe_Combat.esp Active Checksum: 82ABE1C1

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active Checksum: D0C666A8

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active Checksum: 3F9BD9D

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active Checksum: 83B32DA5Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

 

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active Checksum: 660F8C16

Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp Active Checksum: 185BF5F0

3DNPC.esp Active Checksum: 9F73ECDF

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active Checksum: AE06DF54

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active Checksum: 396AE69FNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

 

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active Checksum: A7A56D2

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active Checksum: 47AA94A

Sexier Housecarls.esp Active Checksum: F6DC42D

CerwidenCompanion.esp Active Checksum: FEB5909

CerwidenAppearancePatch.esp Active Checksum: 633F53CA

LylvieveSisters.esp Active Checksum: C3201C1C

SkyRe_Races.esp Active Checksum: EFA737F7

Atlas Map Markers.esp Active Checksum: 440DD6DB

Atlas Blackreach.esp Active Checksum: 51A11D92

Atlas Dawnguard.esp Active Checksum: AA38AD29

Atlas Hearthfire.esp Active Checksum: A4FBA97B

Follower Map Markers.esp Active Checksum: FE0325A3

Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active Checksum: 2C5BA0DD

ReProccer.esp Active Checksum: 65E5340B

 

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The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod

 

manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality.

RealisticLootList.esp Active Checksum: 82D4C04A

Osare GothicLolita BU.esp Active Checksum: 1976527E

Alduin Bikini.esp Active Checksum: 53FA5EDA

glam_retextured_5_versions.esp Active Checksum: AAD445ED

CloseToMakeFollower.esp Active Checksum: 11FAA41

Lilith.esp Active Checksum: E233C365

Osare SchoolUniform BU.esp Active Checksum: 9994B41B

Outfitsellertele.esp Active Checksum: 65DFF298

ViceroyInquisitor.esp Active Checksum: 123CFC88

DemonHunter_Scarf.esp Active Checksum: 3038441F

Reaper's Witch of the Wild Outfit.esp Active Checksum: A7FCDD3

 

this mods i put them in the order you can see i the first post, i don't know if that order is good or not i think it's not far from being good :)

[AudiS3]

If i unistall the more bandit camps do you beleive that could help?

[ripple]

Since you had the Bashed Patch and ReProccer loading at the bottom, I just thought the load order looked legit.... :mellow:

 

1) BOSS has informed you of a number of issues you need to address. First thing is that you need to clean the esp's identified by BOSS as containing dirty records using TES5Edit. So download TES5Edit from the link and follow the instructions to clean those esp's.

 

2) The esp's not recognized by BOSS cannot be simply allowed to load near the bottom, even if you've arranged them above the Bashed Patch. You need to use TES5Edit to look through the records to see if they conflict with any other esp's in your load order, and determine where in the load order they should go. You can use the 'BOSS Userlist Manager' to set custom rules for those esp's so that after you've decided on their loading position, it won't get reset every you run BOSS. If you are not sure about certain conflicts, post some screenshots and we can help.

 

3) After you've done all that, repost your BOSS log so we can check it again to make sure everything is good. Then you can rebuild your Bashed Patch and ReProccer. If that still doesn't help to mitigate the CTDs, then you should consider uninstalling the bandit camp mod to see if it helps to stabilize your game.

Edited January 26, 2013 by ripple

[AudiS3]

Since you had the Bashed Patch and ReProccer loading at the bottom, I just thought the load order looked legit.... :mellow:

 

1) BOSS has informed you of a number of issues you need to address. First thing is that you need to clean the esp's identified by BOSS as containing dirty records using TES5Edit. So download TES5Edit from the link and follow the instructions to clean those esp's.

 

2) The esp's not recognized by BOSS cannot be simply allowed to load near the bottom, even if you've arranged them above the Bashed Patch. You need to use TES5Edit to look through the records to see if they conflict with any other esp's in your load order, and determine where in the load order they should go. You can use the 'BOSS Userlist Manager' to set custom rules for those esp's so that after you've decided on their loading position, it won't get reset every you run BOSS. If you are not sure about certain conflicts, post some screenshots and we can help.

 

3) After you've done all that, repost your BOSS log so we can check it again to make sure everything is good. Then you can rebuild your Bashed Patch and ReProccer. If that still doesn't help to mitigate the CTDs, then you should consider uninstalling the bandit camp mod to see if it helps to stabilize your game.

 

Thanks for all the help.

 

i'm on Tes5edit right now cleaning some mods, but i need a few hints how to realy fix the red ones just like in the toturial video apply filter for cleaning - remove master to identical records but still remains a lot of stuff to fix...

Edited January 26, 2013 by AudiS3